posted January 30, 2019 07:54 PM            

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Judas Iscariot, one of Jesus' twelve apostles, betrayed his master to the authorities. ... Judas was one of the 12 disciples closest to Jesus. Judas offered to betray Jesus to the religious authorities. They agreed to pay him 30 pieces of silver for doing so.

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If Jesus is the Sun, and his disciples are the twelve signs of the zodiac...which one is Judas?

posted January 31, 2019 08:29 AM            

Some sources said He is likely to be born in late-summer or early-fall, which means a Libra (or Virgo).

posted January 31, 2019 08:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I never read jesus being a cap? I have read he is concidered being a pisces sun

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they're going based on christmas

he's given plenty of birthdays, seen august 22nd listed as well before and march etc etc

doesn't really make a difference tbh

also considering that it was all a matter of fate judas was sort of ****** by it all just as much as anyone

posted January 31, 2019 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
they're going based on christmas

he's given plenty of birthdays, seen august 22nd listed as well before and march etc etc

doesn't really make a difference tbh

also considering that it was all a matter of fate judas was sort of ****** by it all just as much as anyone

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ah ok got it!

There are many researchers that says its not possible for him to have been borned at winter season. Evidence show how pagans in the north, and ancient greeks (Bacchanalia festivals) and romans (Saturnalia) already were celebrating that dates hundreds of years before christianity. So they just adapted those celebration days after becoming christians and made it Jesus birthday. Anyways won't wanna stir something up!

posted January 31, 2019 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
ah ok got it!

There are many researchers that says its not possible for him to have been borned at winter season. Evidence show how pagans in the north, and ancient greeks (Bacchanalia festivals) and romans (Saturnalia) already were celebrating that dates hundreds of years before christianity. So they just adapted those celebration days after becoming christians and made it Jesus birthday. Anyways won't wanna stir something up!

Leaving the scene for somone who has relevant information for Op,s question

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yeah i know why they use the date

posted January 31, 2019 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yeah i know why they use the date

i practice the occult but was raised catholic and spend a lot of time readings texts from various religions

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posted February 01, 2019 03:32 AM            

Also, fish have loads of religious and Jesus related symbolism.

Horned and cloven creatures were (superstitiously) considered Satanic.

posted February 01, 2019 06:57 PM            

So, he received money for his betrayal. Then he kissed Jesus to identify him.

posted February 01, 2019 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I was always under the impression that Jesus was a Pisces. Would fit his lifestyle and sacrifice and all.

Also, fish have loads of religious and Jesus related symbolism.

Horned and cloven creatures were (superstitiously) considered Satanic.

What I read in a book about Saturn, was that the Sun represented God, and Saturn represented Lucifer.

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horns and cloven creatures were considered satanic to aid in the phasing out of pagan religions, old gods being demonized to convert people

if you look at horned animal and god imagery prior to christianity you'll see it's very common, and often amongst gods who are also tied to ideas like death/rebirth, wine and the vine, shepherds etc (very much like jesus ironically, even ritualistic consuming of "blood and flesh" to take in their god as done in communion is seen elsewhere with those same gods)

when paganism was driven underground and made illegal (and this was done by force, christianity's stronghold over people as far as faiths go was extremely violent even back in ancient rome not just during the crusades) that became a thing

as for his sacrifice he asked god to save him while on the cross, it was his fate to be a sacrifice since his birth but it wasn't a choice made by him

the parts of the bible that christians read were cherry picked and retranslated/mistranslated and used by governments historically to keep people under control

jesus has many symbols not just fish, and many of his symbols are the same ones you'll see repeatedly throughout many other religions

none of it originated with him

posted February 01, 2019 10:58 PM            

But also a healthy, evolved (though sometimes not) Pisces can be EXTREMELY religious or spiritual. I've known Pisces Suns who have given their WHOLE LIVES to their spirituality or religion of choice. Sometimes the spirituality/religion can be an escapist tendency, but also just what it is.

posted February 02, 2019 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Jesus as Pisces?

No drink. No drugs. No sex. No Lies - always honest and upfront about who he was and what he represented. No deep, dark secrets or scandals in over two thousand years. Very, VERY unlikely such a person could be a Pisces.

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posted February 03, 2019 03:08 AM            

So perhaps I am Jesus Christ after all. Haha!

posted February 03, 2019 11:14 AM            

He talks this about Judas when giving a Sign for each Apostel:

"(...)so gehört der Verräter Judas, der Christus den Tod bringt, zum Todeszeichen Skorpion(...)"

Google Translator:
Thus the traitor of Judah, who brings death to Christ, is the scorpion of death

(lol)

My translation:

Thus, Judas the traitor, who brings death to Christ, represents the Deathsign Scorpio.

posted February 03, 2019 12:20 PM            

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Judas Iskariot - Scorpion
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I dunno.

Scorpio is an emotionally demanding sign, but it goes against their ethos to betray a friend, or befriend someone they don't like.

Libra, on the other hand, totally. There was a thread on this site about such a person by Hermilla. Libra will cheese-it-up with you while secretly not liking you. They also have no qualms about throwing you under the bus if it means they will gain personally...All of this with a smile of course.

posted February 03, 2019 02:22 PM            

I suppose Judas is the opposition of Jesus. I often think of the Capricorn & Cancer gates I've read of in terms of life and death. I thought the description of Scapegoat seemed pretty telling But if we looked at Virgo as the virgin mother Mary and counted forward about 9 months, we'd get to Sagittarius which has the cross in the symbolism and isn't Gemini opposition? Well I've read professional astrology (I can't remember where at though) that Loki is a great representation of Mercury (which rules Gemini). Trickster, to be untrusted.

posted February 04, 2019 08:17 AM            

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Originally posted by MermaidDreamz:
I did a quick search because I'm not bible savvy and need scriptures to help define for my own understanding. At this site,this was an example of each sign for Jesus in mind- http://www.bibletruthonline.com/themeaningofthezodiac.htm

I suppose Judas is the opposition of Jesus. I often think of the Capricorn & Cancer gates I've read of in terms of life and death. I thought the description of Scapegoat seemed pretty telling But if we looked at Virgo as the virgin mother Mary and counted forward about 9 months, we'd get to Sagittarius which has the cross in the symbolism and isn't Gemini opposition? Well I've read professional astrology (I can't remember where at though) that Loki is a great representation of Mercury (which rules Gemini). Trickster, to be untrusted.

Maybe in the end we see both J&J in all twelve signs as we all are duplicitous in our nature. Noone is continually the same from cradle to grave. Even taking transits and locations into account. This is an interesting thread though!

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would make more sense to count based on john the baptist's birthday than anything since their age difference is stated in the bible