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implosions
Knowflake

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posted February 04, 2019 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you tend to relate to both house descriptions for whichever planet it is? I am willing to help decipher other people's house cusp planets if someone could help with my own! (And I mean I'll help anyway <3 )

I've got SATURN on the cusp of the 10th/11th (currently most important as I'm in my 28th year, coming up on a big Saturn Return where both transit Pluto/Saturn will conjunct right over my natal Saturn. I tend to relate a bit more to the 11th but sometimes feel a guilty pull to the 10th. I don't really understand it! If Saturn is giving me lessons this close to my return, I would say the obvious ones are 11th house, and perhaps more subtle ones I don't feel as much pressure on for the 10th?

PLUTO is on the cusp of the 7/8th (though fully in the 8th in Porphory/Whole Chart) and I definitely feel both sides ... But perhaps because these are the 'shadow self' houses, I have a hard time seeing how it might work for me.

MARS (retrograde) on the cusp of the 2/3rd. This is the really difficult one to understand. I don't really relate to either description (rarely, at least) and I have a hard time connecting the Mars energy in a conscious way. (Mars inconjuncts my Sun/Venus).

To a lesser extent, BLACK MOON LILITH is also on a house cusp, the 8/9th and I have yet to really understand that one at much either. Lilith is conjunct my Juno and so far I have only seen a little bit of it in my few relationships, but most of the time I was more heavily dealing with Plutonic issues.


Any insight to these would be wonderful! And please, share your own house cusps and I'll be happy to help dig out some answers for you!

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DRVM614K
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posted February 04, 2019 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by implosions:
Do you tend to relate to both house descriptions for whichever planet it is? I am willing to help decipher other people's house cusp planets if someone could help with my own! (And I mean I'll help anyway <3 )

I've got SATURN on the cusp of the 10th/11th (currently most important as I'm in my 28th year, coming up on a big Saturn Return where both transit Pluto/Saturn will conjunct right over my natal Saturn. I tend to relate a bit more to the 11th but sometimes feel a guilty pull to the 10th. I don't really understand it! If Saturn is giving me lessons this close to my return, I would say the obvious ones are 11th house, and perhaps more subtle ones I don't feel as much pressure on for the 10th?

PLUTO is on the cusp of the 7/8th (though fully in the 8th in Porphory/Whole Chart) and I definitely feel both sides ... But perhaps because these are the 'shadow self' houses, I have a hard time seeing how it might work for me.

MARS (retrograde) on the cusp of the 2/3rd. This is the really difficult one to understand. I don't really relate to either description (rarely, at least) and I have a hard time connecting the Mars energy in a conscious way. (Mars inconjuncts my Sun/Venus).

To a lesser extent, BLACK MOON LILITH is also on a house cusp, the 8/9th and I have yet to really understand that one at much either. Lilith is conjunct my Juno and so far I have only seen a little bit of it in my few relationships, but most of the time I was more heavily dealing with Plutonic issues.


Any insight to these would be wonderful! And please, share your own house cusps and I'll be happy to help dig out some answers for you!


If its within 3 degrees from entering the next house it has traits of the following house but it still operates in the previous. So saturn would be in the 10th but operate with hints of 11th. I believe they say if its an important angle the orb would be larger than 3 degrees.

If its within 1 degreed there will be a shift from the previous house to next in the life time. I'll find the source where i found the info.

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DRVM614K
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posted February 04, 2019 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to be October 1990. I find it extremely easy to project onto you.

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posted February 04, 2019 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
You have to be October 1990. I find it extremely easy to project onto you.

Early November actually. Is this difficult projecting or useful?

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posted February 04, 2019 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
If its within 3 degrees from entering the next house it has traits of the following house but it still operates in the previous. So saturn would be in the 10th but operate with hints of 11th. I believe they say if its an important angle the orb would be larger than 3 degrees.

If its within 1 degreed there will be a shift from the previous house to next in the life time. I'll find the source where i found the info.


It's definitely within one degree; they're all right on the line of, and I guess it depends on the planet/what's affecting it. For instance, Saturn is conjunct Neptune in the 10th, so my '10th qualities' are very ... hazy for me, I guess? Uranus is also there conjunct Neptune (not Saturn though) so it's even more of a big '?' for most things. Saturn only seems 'clear' as day when it's 11th house things, but I still feel like there are 10th issues I'm missing lessons on sometimes.

Same with Pluto; I definitely feel the 8th vibe more since it's Scorpio (and I have other Scorp placements) but I still get that 7th house vibe.

Mars and BML are opposing each other and both are the biggest ??? in their cusp issues. I don't have a lot of info that seems to stick well for the 2/3/9th houses either.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted February 05, 2019 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars on 2nd/3rd suggests self esteem that merges with the intellectual outlook.

So Mars there would make you intellectually sharp and able to get to the heart of things quickly. So this enhances your self esteem as you are able to tackle challenges from an intellectual basis and "win".

Mars on the 2nd/3rd may suggest you like solving problem,sparring with people or doing work that earns you a living that is mentally focused or requires an agile mental sharpness or alertness etc.

Mars also suggests that you are quick to be defensive when challenged about your opinion. Because Mars is on your self esteem house(2nd), proving yourself and "winning" intellectual standoffs is what you are about.

So when someone disagrees with you,corrects you(depending on the sign Mars is in) ,it can be taken as an affront to the personal sense of security.Not just purely an intellectual debate that is meant to stimulate the mind etc.

Ironically you are quick to "correct" others yourself or set them "straight" when they get things "wrong". You could be a disciplinarian when it comes to work or make a living through imposing adherence to rules i.e inspectors of company plants or supervisors of a work force etc.

Whatever you do, you consider your mental sharpness (3rd house)your most "prized possession"(2nd house). And you may most prefer it if you are left to your own reins as the idea of someone else looking over your shoulder and "managing" you, grates your nipples (particularly if Mars in Aries,Scorpio,Leo,Sag or Aqua)

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posted February 05, 2019 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Mars on 2nd/3rd suggests self esteem that merges with the intellectual outlook.

So Mars there would make you intellectually sharp and able to get to the heart of things quickly. So this enhances your self esteem as you are able to tackle challenges from an intellectual basis and "win".

Mars on the 2nd/3rd may suggest you like solving problem,sparring with people or doing work that earns you a living that is mentally focused or requires an agile mental sharpness or alertness etc.

Mars also suggests that you are quick to be defensive when challenged about your opinion. Because Mars is on your self esteem house(2nd), proving yourself and "winning" intellectual standoffs is what you are about.

So when someone disagrees with you,corrects you(depending on the sign Mars is in) ,it can be taken as an affront to the personal sense of security.Not just purely an intellectual debate that is meant to stimulate the mind etc.

Ironically you are quick to "correct" others yourself or set them "straight" when they get things "wrong". You could be a disciplinarian when it comes to work or make a living through imposing adherence to rules i.e inspectors of company plants or supervisors of a work force etc.

Whatever you do, you consider your mental sharpness (3rd house)your most "prized possession"(2nd house). And you may most prefer it if you are left to your own reins as the idea of someone else looking over your shoulder and "managing" you, grates your nipples (particularly if Mars in Aries,Scorpio,Leo,Sag or Aqua)


This is wonderful, thank you! My mars is in Gemini, and I definitely had a tough defensive streak growing up (I still do, but it's more tempered now, haha). I love being shown a new perspective I haven't seen or thought of before, but it can be a bit tricky to get me to that point! I'm actually quite open, but I come across as more aggressive or defensive about it without realizing. My mars is retrograde however, so a lot of the aggression is more internalized and energetically felt than witnessed, perhaps. And self esteem, huh! Somehow I've never put that as the 2nd house theme (not worded like such) but you're so right. I'm very strong on my knowledge since usually I put a lot of forethought/effort into something before speaking on it! The opposition from Lilith must be where I get my 'fight me' instinct, though

( Also the quip 'grates your nipples' is amazing. I've never heard that and I love it lmao )

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Dumuzi
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posted February 05, 2019 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i find placidus mainly accurate for divination rather than reading a person, and whole signs puts everything on the cusp into the other house

placidus i have my moon in 6th conjunct the descendant (1 degree, both aries ) and venus in the 12th conjunct my ascendant (2 degrees, both libra)

so i'd say some of the things in my life have reflected that, but personality wise i can relate better to the 7th/1st house descriptions

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