posted February 09, 2019 01:46 PM            

I have tendency to fell in love with certain type of men. Two years ago I met a man who was exactly in my taste what comes to appearance and character. But he was married with small child. I’m sure it was mutual infatuation. But I didn’t let myself fell in love to him hopelessly because of this impossible situation. And the feeling passed quite fast (months). And I was proud of myself as I didn’t cry after him years as I would normally done. And I felt this was karmic learning experience for me.

posted February 09, 2019 02:45 PM            

I have learned so many things through my relationship with my husband because it is the longest relationship and a lot of my perceptions are changed, like, for example, I saw the world in a black and white view back then, now I have learned that there is a gray area in a bad and a good way.

posted February 09, 2019 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
you know by squares in the birth chart. it shows where we have problems and learning experiences.

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Well I have Neptune square Mercury exact on my Natal and neptune being my 7th ruler. Mercury is my ascendant and mc ruler sitting on 12th. So that might be it.

Is there a point where one can say to life / universe: that’s enough thank you. I won’t take these experiences in anymore. I think I’m in that point. But this thing coming back to me again makes me uncertain. Should I take action and try to “get him”. That is only actionI have never taken before in similar situations or let this pass too.

posted February 09, 2019 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I wonder the same thing when looking up the natal chart both of my ex and my husband have. They have similar natal aspect and both have their Venus conjunct in the same degrees. I feel like I'm dealing almost the same people and the same situation.

I have learned so many things through my relationship with my husband because it is the longest relationship and a lot of my perceptions are changed, like, for example, I saw the world in a black and white view back then, now I have learned that there is a gray area in a bad and a good way.

I don't know what cause this, but I have Chiron in 7th house. The most pain I have is in my relationship, but somehow I end up being a counselor to my friends/family about relationship.

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My Chiron just entered to 7th house. (Always something hitting the fan.) I feel exactly the same, like I’m dealing with same person and situation again. Only difference is that I don’t seem to get in relationship phase at all. Only these painful experiences where love is denied. I don’t even know how it feels like when other person is also taking responsibility to take things forward or that someone would actually care my wellbeing.

posted February 09, 2019 04:01 PM            

The best practical answer I have is that once you see the pattern, look for what is the underlying belief or mis-belief about yourself or life so that you can change that pattern. Only 12-15 years ago I was also caught in repeating a pattern of falling in love with women who were not available. This, even after doing some serious healing and getting positive about life again. So I finally changed it by changing how I approached relationships inside my own perspective. It worked. There is sometimes a shift needed in one's worthiness and deservedness so that love is not tilted idealistically towards some past soul mate who was appropriate in the past, but to one appropriate here, now, this lifetime.

That changes the pattern of karma. Karma is learning the hard way, the long way until one has neutralized a debt burden. You can be free of the karmic debt burden from past lifetimes, but still have issues in this life. Ultimately, we learn to love ourselves enough to do what it takes to be happy. Idealism not required.

Don't conflate karma with destiny or purpose. What happens for most people is that their karmic lessons (and relationships) are brought in as holdovers from prior lifetimes (unfinished business) so that their life purpose(s) are so bound up with them that if they fail or even if they meet those challenges (taking of the unfinished business) they can feel as if there is a total loss of purpose and no reason to go on living. That is to be captured in karma and not be motivated from within your own soul's dignity and ability to go create new experiences with new people and situations.

Falling in love with unavailable people is a pattern, a combination of various subconscious and contradictory feelings that make no logical sense but many of us can have. I used a combination of hypnosis for reprogramming, affirmations, but especially my power of co-creation with Spirit (which we all have) to create the outcome I wanted -- a partner who loves and appreciates me as I am. And I've had that. Been with Heather now for the last 10 years.

Relying on attraction alone can cause the default pattern to continue (with people you've already loved intimately or partnered with in past lifetimes, but who may not be appropriate for your growth this time).

There can be good reasons that you as a Soul made it impossible to be with a particular person or persons in this lifetime -- in spite of the fact you will find them attractive and feel genuine love for them. My own experience was that the person in my past I felt the most love for had agreed with me before we were both born that we would not be together this lifetime, but that I would learn to branch out and partner with other people.

That is the course of our achingly long evolution in this dimension -- to learn to love so many people one at a time that we learn to love the souls of everyone no matter their human form. Some we partner with, some we are not intimate with.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted February 09, 2019 05:23 PM            

I definitely have karmic bonds with this new coworker of mine. We have Saturn conjunct Sun DW, and Saturn conjunct. Moon & Pluto square Mars in our Synastry.

posted February 10, 2019 01:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Valmu83:
Thank you Kannon for your insightful answer I have to read it again tomorrow it’s over midnight here. But I just wanted to ask already how you created wanted outcome? Do you mean law of attraction kind of technique?

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Similar idea in terms of visualizing, but co-creating is done in at least at the level of the Alpha state of brain waves (creative). It can't be done in the Beta state of mind of 'problem solving'. So in a peaceful, meditative state of mind in which our worries are set aside and verbally and/or visually communicating with the Universe/Source.

You can read a great description in Kryon book 1. (Don't be thrown off by the ominous sounding sub-title.) It is a fantastic book that should leave you feeling more hopeful, empowered, and ready to take on life in an all new way! I highly recommend it.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts