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Topic: Retrograde planets and Karma
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itsmeyaz Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Feb 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 04:40 AM
I read online that having multiple planets retrograde could signify having a lot of karmic energy passed on from a past life. And I have 5 planets retrograde :-Venus in the 8th, Gemini -Jupiter in 3rd, Capricorn -Uranus in 3rd, Aquarius -Neptune in 3rd, Capricorn -Pluto in 1st (Scorpio), Sagittarius Adding to that, that most of the readings I did on the 8th house placements indicate karmic energy as well. And I have an 8th house stellium between my Sun, Mercury and Venus. So does this mean I have ''too much" karma that was passed on to me from a past life ? Would love some insights on this topic. Thanks! IP: Logged |
ballerina Moderator Posts: 629 From: A Place on Earth Registered: Feb 2014
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posted February 10, 2019 04:53 AM
Your chart is a guideline Rise above it!------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone/Emeraldopal IP: Logged |
itsmeyaz Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Feb 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 07:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by ballerina: Your chart is a guideline Rise above it!
What? I know, I asked so I can have others' people insights on this matter. IP: Logged |
DRVM614K Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Wurtzite, Boron, SA Registered: Nov 2018
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posted February 10, 2019 08:01 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by itsmeyaz: [B] What? I know, I asked so I can have others' people insights on this matter. Your soul chose those reteogrades. If its on your chart you have evrything you need to deal with it. Remember anything that aspects any retro planet becomes obliquely retro because of its contact with the planet. Even luminaries act as retro when touching retrograde planets. They say retro planets inward expression turns outwards at somepoint as the chart holder ages. Your going through a process of individualization if you will. IP: Logged |
itsmeyaz Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Feb 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 09:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by DRVM614K: [QUOTE]Originally posted by itsmeyaz: [B] What? I know, I asked so I can have others' people insights on this matter. Your soul chose those reteogrades. If its on your chart you have evrything you need to deal with it. Remember anything that aspects any retro planet becomes obliquely retro because of its contact with the planet. Even luminaries act as retro when touching retrograde planets. They say retro planets inward expression turns outwards at somepoint as the chart holder ages. Your going through a process of individualization if you will.
Oh! In this case, 90% of my chart acts as retro. Since the retrograde planets in my chart conjunct pretty much all of the other planets. Including the Sun. Can you give further information regarding the last part where you said the inward expression would turn outward at somepoint...? IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6804 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 10, 2019 09:15 AM
^ Not sure what the answer is, but have you faced any issues in those areas, like internalizing things toooo muchhh ?? (since retrogadation of planets is said to cause the person look inwards) I have mercury retrogade myself...and I have never really had any problems related to the areas ruled by merc.....altho most of my relationships broke off becoz of.....wait for it......communication issuesss....fuqak...I just realizd(!!!!)IP: Logged |
itsmeyaz Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Feb 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 09:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: ^ Not sure what the answer is, but have you faced any issues in those areas, like internalizing things toooo muchhh ?? (since retrogadation of planets is said to cause the person look inwards) I have mercury retrogade myself...and I have never really had any problems related to the areas ruled by merc.....altho most of my relationships broke off becoz of.....wait for it......communication issuesss....fuqak...I just realizd(!!!!)
I didn't really have any problem regarding any rx planet. I think they help me see the bigger picture. Since I'm heavily influenced by Gemini and with a 3rd house stellium (Mercury Dom), I don't have problems when it comes to communication. But I don't interact with everybody. I chose who to spend that talkative Gemini energy on. (Same thing with numerology, I have repeating 3s). And I'm not sure if it's because of my Venus rx or my 8th house stellium, but I take a long time before settling in a relationship. I try to keep my emotions to myself, until I'm sure that it's worth it. And I would also add, I'm somewhat impulsive when it comes to communication. I say things with no filter whatsoever. And that caused me problems, because people would get too offended. IP: Logged |
DRVM614K Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Wurtzite, Boron, SA Registered: Nov 2018
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posted February 10, 2019 09:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by itsmeyaz: Oh! In this case, 90% of my chart acts as retro. Since the retrograde planets in my chart conjunct pretty much all of the other planets. Including the Sun.Can you give further information regarding the last part where you said the inward expression would turn outward at somepoint...?
Retrogrades are active in the birthchart in order for you to "redo" what ever aspects of your personality the planets deal with and represent. Once you've "redone" what was needed, those aspects turn from that inward subjective expression to outward and objective. So once you've caught up everything operates as "normal" IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6804 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 10, 2019 09:42 AM
^ Is retrogade even "bad" tho for us to be forced to "redo" the issues represented by it ? I have always found that explanation a bit too simplistic.Like Eminem says, Normal ? **** being Normal . IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 10:06 AM
I'm glad someone brought this up. My entire chart could be labeled retrograde. I have Mars through Pluto retrograde and my moon conjunct Pluto. My sun, venus, mercury, and chiron are all in the 12th. I'm not a recluse, or painfully shy. I don't have many of these typical traits that I've read about having so many retrogrades. I've talked to a few astrologers who are taking a new view on them. One said (and this made perfect sense to me) that as we move past the age of pisces, you'll see more evolved souls come to Earth and you can see this in their charts. One being many retrogrades. Instead of them acting as karma, they'll show what karma you've already overcome and are now acting as your gifts. You've mastered these planetary energies in your personality and ego and are gifted with their higher knowledge by bringing them deeper into your psyche and using them on a soul level. I've noticed this with a lot of younger people. Especially retrograde Saturn. I think retrogradess make you much more aware of that planet's energy and how to incorporate their higher purpose in your chart. IP: Logged |
DRVM614K Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Wurtzite, Boron, SA Registered: Nov 2018
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posted February 10, 2019 10:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: ^ Is retrogade even "bad" tho for us to be forced to "redo" the issues represented by it ? I have always found that explanation a bit too simplistic.Like Eminem says, Normal ? **** being Normal .
Retro itself isn't bad. Apparently what we did in a past life was bad in order for us to have to do it again. Or we're just old souls who are skipping over those parts of our life and continuing to distinguish our selves from other souls ie individualization. IP: Logged |
itsmeyaz Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Feb 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 10:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dons2angelss: I'm glad someone brought this up. My entire chart could be labeled retrograde. I have Mars through Pluto retrograde and my moon conjunct Pluto. My sun, venus, mercury, and chiron are all in the 12th. I'm not a recluse, or painfully shy. I don't have many of these typical traits that I've read about having so many retrogrades. I've talked to a few astrologers who are taking a new view on them. One said (and this made perfect sense to me) that as we move past the age of pisces, you'll see more evolved souls come to Earth and you can see this in their charts. One being many retrogrades. Instead of them acting as karma, they'll show what karma you've already overcome and are now acting as your gifts. You've mastered these planetary energies in your personality and ego and are gifted with their higher knowledge by bringing them deeper into your psyche and using them on a soul level. I've noticed this with a lot of younger people. Especially retrograde Saturn. I think retrogradess make you much more aware of that planet's energy and how to incorporate their higher purpose in your chart.
Oh!! Exactly! Same thing for me. I never reaally related to what I read about them "Retrograde = shyness or being an introvert". Idk if thats just because of my heavy mercury influence, but I'm not shy at all. On the contrary. And I would usually see people panic when a planet goes retrograde, while it's the period I feel the most energetic and productive. So it's really confusing ?? And I already have too many 8th house placements, added to the karmic energy retrogrades are supposed to bring, I suppose I should be going thru a bad period of time? But it's not really the case. So I'm just really confused. IP: Logged |
itsmeyaz Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Feb 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 10:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by DRVM614K: Retro itself isn't bad. Apparently what we did in a past life was bad in order for us to have to do it again. Or we're just old souls who are skipping over those parts of our life and continuing to distinguish our selves from other souls ie individualization.
So I must've really ****** up in a past life for me to have, not only one, but FIVE retro planets. Hahaha! I hope it's not the case. Although I know I need to work on the way I let words come out of my mouth. And take in consideration that people might be offended. Even if in most cases I rather say the honest truth than to "soften" it. IP: Logged |
DRVM614K Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Wurtzite, Boron, SA Registered: Nov 2018
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posted February 10, 2019 10:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by itsmeyaz: So I must've really ****** up in a past life for me to have, not only one, but FIVE retro planets. Hahaha! I hope it's not the case. Although I know I need to work on the way I let words come out of my mouth. And take in consideration that people might be offended. Even if in most cases I rather say the honest truth than to "soften" it.
One might not have ****** up but you may not have taken advantage of your potential therefore it be i interpreted as f'ing up respectively. IP: Logged |
DRVM614K Knowflake Posts: 293 From: Wurtzite, Boron, SA Registered: Nov 2018
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posted February 10, 2019 10:33 AM
You are an old soul to say the leastIP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6804 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 10, 2019 10:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by itsmeyaz: Oh!! Exactly! Same thing for me. I never reaally related to what I read about them "Retrograde = shyness or being an introvert". Idk if thats just because of my heavy mercury influence, but I'm not shy at all. On the contrary. And I would usually see people panic when a planet goes retrograde, while it's the period I feel the most energetic and productive. So it's really confusing ??And I already have too many 8th house placements, added to the karmic energy retrogrades are supposed to bring, I suppose I should be going thru a bad period of time? But it's not really the case. So I'm just really confused.
Ohhhhhh me tooo me toooo! #metoo when mercury goes retro. thats my favorite period, it's like everything just flows, wheeeeez! the shopkeeper still sold me a f#cked(ahh man moy hate to write fgck in 6 different ways to escape the censor board all the time, good for the creativity tho I figure) up joypad tho during a mercury retro. period, guess he was enduring a mercury retro. period aye IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 11:06 AM
Yep, I don't accept the retrograde hype at all. At least not in the times we're living in today. It's still important where they are in your chart so having a lot in the 8th house shows where you're meant to use them. The 8th house can be very karmic but I'd look at it on an esoteric level for you. It might make more sense. It has for me anyway. I'm still very aware of them on a more exoteric level, especially retrograde Uranus in my 7th. It's like I can see the higher and the lower aspects of each planet in those specific areas of my life. And just to throw this out there, I remember 4 of my past lives so these retrogrades don't really add up with the descriptions of what I did and who I was. That's really what prompted me to look deeper into their meaning. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6804 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 10, 2019 11:09 AM
^^ Damn!! Four lives ? Did you use any technique to help you in reliving them(atleast in your mind) or did they just come to you ? IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 11:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: ^^ Damn!! Four lives ? Did you use any technique to help you in reliving them(atleast in your mind) or did they just come to you ?
I've always remembered certain things from the first 3 but I recently had a past life regression to remember most of my previous one. I strolgly suggest a past life regression, especially for people with multiple retrograde planets. Remembering more of my last life put a lot in perspective and cleared up some missing links. IP: Logged |
itsmeyaz Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Feb 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dons2angelss: Yep, I don't accept the retrograde hype at all. At least not in the times we're living in today. It's still important where they are in your chart so having a lot in the 8th house shows where you're meant to use them. The 8th house can be very karmic but I'd look at it on an esoteric level for you. It might make more sense. It has for me anyway. I'm still very aware of them on a more exoteric level, especially retrograde Uranus in my 7th. It's like I can see the higher and the lower aspects of each planet in those specific areas of my life. And just to throw this out there, I remember 4 of my past lives so these retrogrades don't really add up with the descriptions of what I did and who I was. That's really what prompted me to look deeper into their meaning.
Oh! I actually did a past life regression not to long ago, but I woke up in the middle of it. I don't know why. But I do remember one in particular, because I kept seeing dreams about it over and over again. And now that you mentionned it, it does resonate with my 8th house stellium. Interesting... Do you advice me anything to do regarding figuring the energy of my retrograde planets or the 8th house energy ?
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Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 06:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by itsmeyaz: Oh! I actually did a past life regression not to long ago, but I woke up in the middle of it. I don't know why. But I do remember one in particular, because I kept seeing dreams about it over and over again. And now that you mentionned it, it does resonate with my 8th house stellium. Interesting... Do you advice me anything to do regarding figuring the energy of my retrograde planets or the 8th house energy ?
That's how mine went. The life I led before definitely resonates with my chart this life. I found a lot of clarity in reading about esoteric astrology. It's more soul based and the 8th house is where you go to let go of the ego and make that connection to your higher self. It's the first layer under our personalities and having so much going on in that house, you might find yourself being faced with using those planetary energies on a deeper level, beyond just what you want, but what you need to discover your true worth beyond the ego.
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Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted February 10, 2019 06:17 PM
And I'll add that the 8th house isn't just about death and sex. It's a lot more than that, it's about self control and how you use that control. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 6804 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted February 10, 2019 09:48 PM
^ I'd associate that with Saturn, Pluto is total change.IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted February 11, 2019 10:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: ^ I'd associate that with Saturn, Pluto is total change.
That's also the 8th house. The 2nd house is how you gain, the 8th is how you use what you've gained. Having personal planets in the house of Pluto is learning to gain control over those energies on that deeper level and learning how to use them. IP: Logged |