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ChildofVenus
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posted February 17, 2019 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking maybe Cancer on the 2nd house cusps? Or 6th house in Capricorn?

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I think the natal chart is more likely show ones attitude towards money rather than actual riches, or lack thereof.

Pisces on the cusp of or Neptune in the 2nd house will probably not care much about money. They might be the sort of person who'll willingly give away a lot of what they own if it can help someone else. The value of money for them lies in the help it can bring to people who lack it.

Cancer 2nd house might be more emotionally attached to belongings than money. Same with Moon in the 2nd house. They'll only care about money if there is a lack and they are struggling to care for their family... because the value of money to them lies in the nurturing it affords them.

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posted February 17, 2019 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I was thinking maybe Cancer on the 2nd house cusps? Or 6th house in Capricorn?

6th house in Capricorn actually produces the opposite. Because people with Capricorn on the 6th are usually more motivated to excel in their work and that would usually lead to an increase in income (especially if planets in the 6th or 6th house ruler makes a flowing aspect to 2nd house planets or 2nd house ruler).

I think it's very important to check the condition of the house ruler and any planets in the 2nd house to even determine a lack or abundance in resources.

Saturn in the 2nd house or Capricorn in the 2nd house may point to being born in a family with not a lot of financial resources. But that's what teaches them to persevere or save their money for rainy days. Alternatively, they could have been born in a well-off family but could have been faced with uncontrollable events in their lives that forces them to manage their finances better.

Cancer on the 2nd house does not necessarily mean the native doesn't care about money. With this one, you have to really check where the Moon is at and the aspects it makes. I have two examples--me and my boyfriend. I have Moon in Cancer in the 1st, sextile Mercury and Venus. I could say very well that I was born into a family with enough financial resources to supply what I need and still have enough for things I would like. However, with Sun in my 2nd house, I always wanted more and to be literally rich so I could afford things without having to worry about money (feeling of security still governed by Cancer). The things I like are pretty expensive and I'm not gonna lie, I get pretty materialistic. My boyfriend is the same way, also with Sun in the 2nd house. However, his story is a bit more different than mine. He was born in a family who struggled with poverty. He was very sickly as a child and his mom had to beg politicians in her area to help her pay for his medical expenses. His dad was a spendthrift and threw all their money away giving to friends in their neighbourhood without leaving some for the family. His mom had to compensate by working very hard abroad and by teaching him life the hard way. While my mom would help me to the best of her ability if I was struggling with money, his mom was the opposte. She would only ever catch him if he were to die. Other than that, she'll let him live in hardship so he learns. He has Moon in Capricorn in the 7th house. He wants to achieve a high position in life so he could earn enough money to provide for himself and his family. He doesn't want his future wife to ever worry about having to work.

I could say Pisces in the 2nd house too, but really, it still depends on the 2nd house ruler. My brother has this and was born in the same kind of family I was in. He probably wouldn't care about money if he didn't need it to buy the things he likes. He also has a great need for control and security through exercising power over others (Scorpio moon), so money can be very important to him. His Neptune is opposite Mercury too though, which is his 8th house ruler. He's always felt like everybody else had so much while he had so little even though that really wasn't the case.

I've seen people with Aries/Mars in the 2nd house and Scorpio/Pluto in the 2nd house struggle more with finances. Mars is too impulsive to really be able to manange money well, although people with Aries or Mars in the 2nd somehow easily find ways to make a quick buck. Unless there are Saturn contacts to provide stability, I haven't seen much financial success with this placement. My mom has Aries ruling her 2nd house and her Mars there too. She's always struggled with instant gains and inevitable losses. Scorpio or Pluto in the 2nd house can have a compulsion towards earning a lot and then giving it all up for something else. Scorpio alone on the 2nd house may be too vague to determine this. But Pluto in the 2nd for sure will have such a compulsion. They will avoid spending on things they need to save up for things the want (usually expensive). I've seen this in my sister and another girl I met. The girl would go out with her boyfriend and refuse to eat out and have a good time with him because she wanted a pair of $60 jeans. She would have $100 and still refuse to spend $3-$5 for eating out. My sister functioned differently in which she would rather take things that are not hers and then save her money to buy expensive things for her boyfriend.

Not sure what else to add, but these are my 2 cents based irl.

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I also forgot, Jupiter in the 2nd house with a lot of harsh aspects to other planets (especially 2nd or 8th house ruler). They could be born with a seemingly secure financial background but may struggle to keep it, especially with Neptune, Saturn, and Pluto in hard aspect. They may spend a lot and forget they have debts to repay. My one friend has Jupiter in the 2nd and Moon in the 5th squaring each other. He spends so much money to have a good time and then blows it all in a matter of hours. Moon square Jupiter is also another aspect. My sister and my friend share this. They are not very good at repaying their debts and would rather spend more to make themselves feel better instead of facing it. If Jupiter receives good aspects, it's not so much of a big deal, I would think.

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posted February 17, 2019 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
6th house in Capricorn actually produces the opposite. Because people with Capricorn on the 6th are usually more motivated to excel in their work and that would usually lead to an increase in income (especially if planets in the 6th or 6th house ruler makes a flowing aspect to 2nd house planets or 2nd house ruler).

I think it's very important to check the condition of the house ruler and any planets in the 2nd house to even determine a lack or abundance in resources.

Saturn in the 2nd house or Capricorn in the 2nd house may point to being born in a family with not a lot of financial resources. But that's what teaches them to persevere or save their money for rainy days. Alternatively, they could have been born in a well-off family but could have been faced with uncontrollable events in their lives that forces them to manage their finances better.

Cancer on the 2nd house does not necessarily mean the native doesn't care about money. With this one, you have to really check where the Moon is at and the aspects it makes. I have two examples--me and my boyfriend. I have Moon in Cancer in the 1st, sextile Mercury and Venus. I could say very well that I was born into a family with enough financial resources to supply what I need and still have enough for things I would like. However, with Sun in my 2nd house, I always wanted more and to be literally rich so I could afford things without having to worry about money (feeling of security still governed by Cancer). The things I like are pretty expensive and I'm not gonna lie, I get pretty materialistic. My boyfriend is the same way, also with Sun in the 2nd house. However, his story is a bit more different than mine. He was born in a family who struggled with poverty. He was very sickly as a child and his mom had to beg politicians in her area to help her pay for his medical expenses. His dad was a spendthrift and threw all their money away giving to friends in their neighbourhood without leaving some for the family. His mom had to compensate by working very hard abroad and by teaching him life the hard way. He has Moon in Capricorn in the 7th house. He wants to achieve a high position in life so he could earn enough money to provide for himself and his family. He doesn't want his future wife to ever worry about having to work.

I could say Pisces in the 2nd house too, but really, it still depends on the 2nd house ruler. My brother has this and was born in the same kind of family I was in. He probably wouldn't care about money if he didn't need it to buy the things he likes. He also has a great need for control and security through exercising power over others (Scorpio moon), so money can be very important to him. His Neptune is opposite Mercury too though, which is his 8th house ruler. He's always felt like everybody else had so much while he had so little even though that really wasn't the case.

I've seen people with Aries/Mars in the 2nd house and Scorpio/Pluto in the 2nd house struggle more with finances. Mars is too impulsive to really be able to manange money well, although people with Aries or Mars in the 2nd somehow easily find ways to make a quick buck. Unless there are Saturn contacts to provide stability, I haven't seen much financial success with this placement. My mom has Aries ruling her 2nd house and her Mars there too. She's always struggled with instant gains and inevitable losses. Scorpio or Pluto in the 2nd house can have a compulsion towards earning a lot and then giving it all up for something else. Scorpio alone on the 2nd house may be too vague to determine this. But Pluto in the 2nd for sure will have such a compulsion. They will avoid spending on things they need to save up for things the want (usually expensive). I've seen this in my sister and another girl I met. The girl would go out with her boyfriend and refuse to eat out and have a good time with him because she wanted a pair of $60 jeans. She would have $100 and still refuse to spend $3-$5 for eating out. My sister functioned differently in which she would rather take things that are not hers and then save her money to buy expensive things for her boyfriend.

Not sure what else to add, but these are my 2 cents based irl.


The person has Mars in Cancer and Cancer being the ruler of their 2nd house. Would that be similar to Mars in the 2nd house?

This is what I've read about Cancer on the second house cusps.


Cancer on 2nd house cusp

Your economic situation will fluctuate throughout your life and it is possible that your income will not be consistent from month to month. You can earn money in jobs related to the public and render services in areas such as nutrition, medicine, psychology, etc. In addition, possibly you can do a great business in real estate.

With the influence of this astrological sign you can do some type of work at home. Your earnings will grow through time and your best moments will be during maturity.

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posted February 17, 2019 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
The person has Mars in Cancer and Cancer being the ruler of their 2nd house. Would that be similar to Mars in the 2nd house?

This is what I've read about Cancer on the second house cusps.


[b]Cancer on 2nd house cusp

Your economic situation will fluctuate throughout your life and it is possible that your income will not be consistent from month to month. You can earn money in jobs related to the public and render services in areas such as nutrition, medicine, psychology, etc. In addition, possibly you can do a great business in real estate.

With the influence of this astrological sign you can do some type of work at home. Your earnings will grow through time and your best moments will be during maturity.[/B]


Yeah, I agree with the fluctuations, but they're usually not severe highs and lows unlike Pluto or Scorpio there (unless Pluto is screwing over the 2nd house ruler or planets there). The only time I had severe financial distress was when transiting Pluto opposed my Moon. My family fell apart that time and my mom was left with three of us with barely any money to provide.

Mars in the 2nd house would definitely aggravate the fluctuations. Especially since the person has Mars in Cancer. They tend to take action based on feeling. Unless their Moon is in an air or earth sign, they will struggle more with money because emotions are usually inconsistent. For example, if they just lost their job, they are more likely to dwell on the matter of fact than actually find solutions to it right away. They might act on it later on when they feel better, and that could take months. If their Mars was in the 2nd but in an earth sign like Taurus or Capricorn, it would be a completely different story.

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posted February 17, 2019 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, I agree with the fluctuations, but they're usually not severe highs and lows unlike Pluto or Scorpio there (unless Pluto is screwing over the 2nd house ruler or planets there). The only time I had severe financial distress was when transiting Pluto opposed my Moon. My family fell apart that time and my mom was left with three of us with barely any money to provide.

Mars in the 2nd house would definitely aggravate the fluctuations. Especially since the person has Mars in Cancer. They tend to take action based on feeling. Unless their Moon is in an air or earth sign, they will struggle more with money because emotions are usually inconsistent. For example, if they just lost their job, they are more likely to dwell on the matter of fact than actually find solutions to it right away. They might act on it later on when they feel better, and that could take months. If their Mars was in the 2nd but in an earth sign like Taurus or Capricorn, it would be a completely different story.


Mars isn't in the 2nd house they have Mars in Cancer in the 1st house. But the second house is ruled by Cancer and Moon in fire.

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posted February 17, 2019 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Ruler of the 2nd in 1st
Ruler of the 2nd in 7th
Ruler of the 2nd in 9th

Afflicted Venus

Venus in Scorpio
Venus in Aries
Venus in Virgo

Venus/Uranus
Venus/Pluto
Venus/Mars

Venus ruling the 8th
Venus ruling the 6th
Venus ruling the 12th

Venus in 6th
Venus in 8th
Venus in 12th.

Mars in 2nd
Pluto in 2nd
Neptune in 2nd

Pisces in 2nd house cusp
Scorpio in 2nd house cusp
Aries in the 2nd house cusp

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posted February 17, 2019 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ruler of the 2nd in 1st
Ruler of the 2nd in 7th
Ruler of the 2nd in 9th

Afflicted Venus

Venus in Scorpio
Venus in Aries
Venus in Virgo

Venus/Uranus
Venus/Pluto
Venus/Mars

Venus ruling the 8th
Venus ruling the 6th
Venus ruling the 12th

Venus in 6th
Venus in 8th
Venus in 12th.

Mars in 2nd
Pluto in 2nd
Neptune in 2nd

Pisces in 2nd house cusp
Scorpio in 2nd house cusp
Aries in the 2nd house cusp



Venus in the 8th house? I have this and I have read the opposite this usually indicates recieving money and resources from others an inheritance. But I also have Jupiter there I don’t know about Venus/Uranus I have this as well.

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posted February 17, 2019 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[B] 6th house in Capricorn actually produces the opposite. Because people with Capricorn on the 6th are usually more motivated to excel in their work and that would usually lead to an increase in income (especially if planets in the 6th or 6th house ruler makes a flowing aspect to 2nd house planets or 2nd house ruler).


Interesting. I have Chiron in the 2nd (square Sun/Merc in the 5th, in a grand trine with Uranus / Neptune in the 6th and BML in the 10th).

We were always broke growing up, and I'm still a starving artist living paycheck to paycheck. But I have a Cap 6th house with Uranus/Neptune there and was able to attend one of the most expensive schools in the country on scholarship and loans cuz that's what I was determined to do. Now I'm driven to have just enough money to support my art and I'm def making that happen. But I'll never have much money cuz I just don't care to go make more than I need for the sake of it. I'd rather spend my time making art than supporting someone else for money. Maybe one day it will pay off

6th house ruler is in the 7th
and 2nd house ruler is in the 5th

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posted February 17, 2019 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Venus in the 8th house? I have this and I have read the opposite this usually indicates recieving money and resources from others an inheritance. But I also have Jupiter there I don’t know about Venus/Uranus I have this as well.

Everything else must also be considered.

Certain positions can mitigate this ie;
If Venus is in Libra or Taurus or in its exaltation(Pisces)
Venus in positive aspect to Jupiter
Ruler of 8th in 7th
Ruler of 8th in 3rd.
Ruler of 8th in 1st

Jupiter ruling the 2nd
Jupiter in Sag or exalted position(Cancer) in 2nd.
2nd house ruler in aspect to Jupiter

Venus/Uranus could be up/down gains and/losses. As Uranus is very unstable. Its most potent and active in Scorpio/8th house or ruling the 8th(Aqua 8th house cusp).

A strong Saturn in Cap/Aq or in exalted Libra can help neutralize erratic Uranus. Especially when Saturn is in the 7th house and Uranus is in the 8th.

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posted February 17, 2019 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Everything else must also be considered.

Certain positions can mitigate this ie;
If Venus is in Libra or Taurus or in its exaltation(Pisces)
Venus in positive aspect to Jupiter
Ruler of 8th in 7th
Ruler of 8th in 3rd.
Ruler of 8th in 1st

Jupiter ruling the 2nd
Jupiter in Sag or exalted position(Cancer) in 2nd.
2nd house ruler in aspect to Jupiter

Venus/Uranus could be up/down gains and/losses. As Uranus is very unstable. Its most potent and active in Scorpio/8th house or ruling the 8th(Aqua 8th house cusp).

A strong Saturn in Cap/Aq or in exalted Libra can help neutralize erratic Uranus. Especially when Saturn is in the 7th house and Uranus is in the 8th.



This is my chart I have a lot of planets in my 8th house.

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posted February 17, 2019 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2nd house ruler in 5th. You spend far too much on fun or gamble the money off. Whatever you do, you spend according to your generous mood and so your money status fluctuates.

Mitigating factors that bar this are
Moon rules the 2nd and placed in 5th
Saturn rules the 2nd and placed in 5th
Saturn/Moon ruling the 5th
The planet in the 5th in the signs of Cancer/Cap

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posted February 17, 2019 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[B]2nd house ruler in 5th. You spend far too much on fun or gamble the money off. Whatever you do, you spend according to your generous mood and so your money status fluctuates.


yes definitely. i'm always thinking, well there will always be more 'x' so why not just use it all now? lol
it's my sag 5th influence as well

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posted February 17, 2019 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
2nd house ruler in 5th. You spend far too much on fun or gamble the money off. Whatever you do, you spend according to your generous mood and so your money status fluctuates.

Mitigating factors that bar this are
Moon rules the 2nd and placed in 5th
Saturn rules the 2nd and placed in 5th
Saturn/Moon ruling the 5th
The planet in the 5th in the signs of Cancer/Cap


I don't gamble at all though.

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@Child of Venus.

Ruler of the 2nd is Mercury. The planet that undermines the efforts of the 2nd is the Sun in your chart(since it rules the 1st house) and Saturn/ Uranus (since they jointly rule the 7th)

Saturn is widely trine Mercury. So making money can feel like a grind. It suggests working a lot and not being paid your worth. A slow rise to the top. Work that can be mentally straining or stressing etc. You need to keep at it and mantain discipline.

The other thing is that Mars rules your 9th house. The 9th house is 8 houses from the 2nd and is the house of "loss". So Mars in aspect to ruler of the 2nd as well as in mutual reception with it is potent.

You may spend money on emergencies or sudden things show up that need money etc. So as you try save, something comes up to sabotage that or you find yourself most susceptible to impulse spending for things that you "have to have" but don't really need.

Venus-which is the significator of wealth or money is in the 8th house natally. But its in the 7th house from the 2nd(money).

Venus in the opposite house than the house it rules suggests that its effects are neutralized. So you may take on a more passive view on money and "expect" your spouse to support you. And this could lead to problems i.e you thinking that your spouses money is "yours".

Venus in 8th from your 1st suggests that you recover well from setbacks and that upheavals that would make others cynical, don't have such a hard impact on you.

You are made of stronger stuff than you think. And you should take your ability to attract money seriously and create an income for yourself through your own efforts.

It may take a loss/breakup for you to wake up and realize yout ability to do this.But it doesn't have to come to that. You could find that you have a talent in the written word(since Venus rules the 3rd house).

So your talent(3rd) could help in making a job for you(the 8th house is 6th from the 3rd house). Or it could help in enhancing your sense of self worth through others(8th house is 7th from the 2nd).

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@Child of Venus.

Ruler of the 2nd is Mercury. The planet that undermines the efforts of the 2nd is the Sun in your chart(since it rules the 1st house) and Saturn/ Uranus (since they jointly rule the 7th)

Saturn is widely trine Mercury. So making money can feel like a grind. It suggests working a lot and not being paid your worth. A slow rise to the top. Work that can be mentally straining or stressing etc. You need to keep at it and mantain discipline.

The other thing is that Mars rules your 9th house. The 9th house is 8 houses from the 2nd and is the house of "loss". So Mars in aspect to ruler of the 2nd as well as in mutual reception with it is potent.

You may spend money on emergencies or sudden things show up that need money etc. So as you try save, something comes up to sabotage that or you find yourself most susceptible to impulse spending for things that you "have to have" but don't really need.

Venus-which is the significator of wealth or money is in the 8th house natally. But its in the 7th house from the 2nd(money).

Venus in the opposite house than the house it rules suggests that its effects are neutralized. So you may take on a more passive view on money and "expect" your spouse to support you. And this could lead to problems i.e you thinking that your spouses money is "yours".

Venus in 8th from your 1st suggests that you recover well from setbacks and that upheavals that would make others cynical, don't have such a hard impact on you.

You are made of stronger stuff than you think. And you should take your ability to attract money seriously and create an income for yourself through your own efforts.

It may take a loss/breakup for you to wake up and realize yout ability to do this.But it doesn't have to come to that. You could find that you have a talent in the written word(since Venus rules the 3rd house).

So your talent(3rd) could help in making a job for you(the 8th house is 6th from the 3rd house). Or it could help in enhancing your sense of self worth through others(8th house is 7th from the 2nd).


So a career that involves the 3rd house? I remember you mentioned Psychology. But that's because of my 8th house.

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I don't gamble at all though.

Ehmm. You don't have 2nd house ruler in the 5th house. That wasn't for you

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posted February 17, 2019 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mars isn't in the 2nd house they have Mars in Cancer in the 1st house. But the second house is ruled by Cancer and Moon in fire.

Oops, I read it wrong sorry. If Moon is in fire and in the 1st house, they would probably be impulsive with their money. It would still be a somewhat similar situation. Just that they probably won't spend money just because they feel like it but because they have an impulse to do so. Most likely to spend money on themselves to have something to show to others or to feel like they're better than others.

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posted February 17, 2019 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So a career that involves the 3rd house? I remember you mentioned Psychology. But that's because of my 8th house.

It matters not what you do. But use that Mercury emphasis you have.

The ruler of your 2nd house(money) is Mercury
The 3rd house(affiliated with Mercury) has its ruler (Venus) exalted in Pisces.
Mercury is conjunct Jupiter and in mutual reception with Mars in Gemini.

You have lots to say. My point is find out what that is exactly and hone it. You will make money through mental efforts of speaking or writing

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posted February 17, 2019 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It matters not what you do. But use that Mercury emphasis you have.

The ruler of your 2nd house(money) is Mercury
The 3rd house(affiliated with Mercury) has its ruler (Venus) exalted in Pisces.
Mercury is conjunct Jupiter and in mutual reception with Mars in Gemini.

You have lots to say. My point is find out what that is exactly and hone it. You will make money through mental efforts of speaking or writing


Can you elaborate? What are mental efforts? I like Massage Therapy, Psychology, Dental, Mortuary Science. And anything 8th house related those are the things I like career wise.

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Haven't read any of the replies, not even the op.. Just the title and I clicked faster than light. Money is one of my fav topics.

Unlike most money topucs you're asking what indicates poverty instead if wealth.

Well here is a poor girl's chart 😢

Personal planets in 2nd H are nit an inducation if someone rich at all.

Pluto in 2nd H shows someone pretty comfortable financially

Saturn and Neptune in 2nd H show someone who will struggle a lot to make money and he probably will just be abke to afford the basics.

Saturn in 8th H indicates that you will get nothing from others (I'm pretty surprised that my mother lets me eat food she buys, my dad was the only one giving me). I can guarantee this as I have it myself.

Every other planet in 8th H (excluding Uranus and Neptune because I have no experience with them being in 8th H by themselves) bring good things from others.

Pluto/Jupiter in 4th H = wealthy family (all cases I've seen)

Many personal planets in 10th H for some reason are very common with famous people (not only famous ones)

Aqua Sun and Mercury (the more Aqua planets the better) indicate someone who will usually becone rich quite young.

I think Neptunian people and generally people who have too much water (but I emphasize Neptune/Pisces again) and have non of the above "money lucky" aspects/placements is going to be on the poor side.

Neptune conjunct any angle would be the worst imo because it affects all the angles in some way.

I tend to see Neptune in 2nd H a lot with poor people. However I focus on the wealthy ones most of the time.

I haven't found 6th H playing a role in this, I feel like the 6th H describes more the job you would like to do, how you cope with routine including work etc. The few people I know who have planets in 6th H are somehow involved with helping people/animals like nurses/vets etc and me with Uranus in there I hate these jobs even thoygh I have so much Neptune nd I like helping people in need, I would be depressed plus I'm very easily disgusted.

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When you say mental efforts do you mean psychology? m

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Venus rules money. Specifically Taurus the "accumulation" energy.

6th house of Taurus is Venus(Libra). Which is obstacles and difficulties with people or relationships.

8th house of Taurus is Jup(Sag). Which is "losses" related to risks or taking chances.

10th house of Taurus is Saturn/Uranus. Which is "setbacks" and "delays" because of ill timing.

Now these planets(barring mitigating factors) in any chart, suggest challenges when found in the 2nd.

Add to that this specific chart with Leo on the 2nd house cusp, we begin our analysis there.

6th from Leo is Saturn(Cap). Delays /setbacks.
8th house Pisces (Jupiter/Neptune). Losses.
10th house Venus(Taurus). Challenges from relations.

So here we see Venus is in the 2nd.
Jupiter is in the 2nd
Mars is in the 2nd.(Pluto/Mars are "enemies" of Venus)

Venus would be better in Taurus/Pisces. Not Leo
Jupiter better in Sag. Not Pisces.
Mars is neutralized in Leo. It would.be more detrimental in Scorpio or Aries.

Pluto unfortunately makes aspects with all in the 2nd house and this can emphasize "loss"(Pluto). And when in Scorpio the energy is exacerbated. Wow!

It won't mean that she will be "poor" forever though or condemned to it. But it does mean that she will have to invest some mental energy into changing her mind & the overall experiences that she had with money.

Pluto in aspect to all those planets in 2nd suggests either bitterness and anger about "not having" or there is incredible momentum to overturn a likely "fate" by working oneself out of that mindset.

Pluto in aspect to 2nd can also provide incredible motivation to lift onself off ones bootstraps and get on with the business of seeking financial freedom and putting ALL their efforts there.

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Solar_Leo_Queen wrote:
I've seen people with Aries/Mars in the 2nd house and Scorpio/Pluto in the 2nd house struggle more with finances. Mars is too impulsive to really be able to manange money well.

My thought was Pluto. Second house Pluto and possibly aspecting Saturn or a challenging aspect with Jupiter. He can behave like drunkard sailor. Spending unwisely, quickly.

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