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astri
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posted February 20, 2019 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emmanuel Macron's dob is 21 dec 1977 at 10:40 AM in Amiens , France.

[IMG]https://cdn1.imggmi.com/uploads/2019/2/20/47cba8f632af0b57ddbd3a8376ef7378-full.png[/IMG] upload image

When the new elections will be on 13 may 2022, his Pluto will be conjuncting his AC and squaring his Chiron.

Pholus and Quaoar conj 12th H cusp

Nessus conjunct natal Pholus

Sedna conjunct IC

Chiron conj SN

Uranus conj moon and opp natal uranus

SN conjunct natal Uranus

Neptune conj 2nd H cusp (also opp 8th H cusp)

Dejanira conj Vesta
Hinderer conj MC
SN conj pallas
RIP conjunct Hylonome (dealing with grief and loss, the cry of the victim)
Agamemnon (to be atacked) conjunct transiting NN and Sun
Papacosmos conjunct natal Saturn
Dejanira conjunct Vesta
Hylonome conjunct natal Dejanira


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posted February 20, 2019 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not sure how these image links works:
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posted February 20, 2019 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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His Lunar return is also interesting for may 2022:

LR AC conj natal Chiron
LR Pluto conj natal AC
LR DC in 8th House
LR Vertex conj natal NN

LR Sedna conj natal IC and natal Sedna conj LR AC
natal Eris conj natal SN conj LR chiron
LR nessus conj natal Pholu

LR quao conj LR Pholu conj natal 12th H cusp
LR SN conj natal Pallas (in 9th H)


LR 6th H cusp conj LR anubis conj natal VErtex
LR IC conj LR RIP conj LR Dionysus (both deity of ecstacy, sexuality , life and a god of Death) in natal 6th H
LR liltih conj natal jupiter
natal lilith conj LR 3d H cusp

LR POF conj natal Chaos and Pest
LR Pandora conj Natal Lucifer
LR Lucifer conj natal Ceres
LR Jupiter conj LR venus conj natal Mizunuma
(is a shy person who was frequently bullied (second to Kenichi) and stands up for his beliefs of righteousness by gaining strength and joining Shinpaku. In this, Mizunuma looks up to Kenichi as a role model. Unlike Kenichi, Mizunuma's sense of justice against enemies is not defensive, but offensive, as seen at one point when he attacked a middle school bully so badly that he caused serious injuries (and even hit Matsui inthe face at one point).
His other role model is Alan Subishi, his master. When Alan was incapacitated by Yomi's Tirawit Kōkin, Mizunuma was overcome with feelings of revenge and was first to step into the ring during the DofD tournament to advance Shinpaku so that he could fight Yomi.)

LR Hylonome (dealing with grief and loss, the cry of the victim), conj natal Hildrun (battle secret?)

LR Agamemnon (to be attacked) conj LR NN in SR 1st H in natal 3d House

LR gersuind; (This asteroid may give danger of captivity.) conj natal SN

LR Hermes (god of thieves, liars, merchants. Also, the guide of dead souls. Also a deity of luck and money) conj natal Hekate (ruler of the underworld, witchcraft, sends demons to earth to torment men)

LR NN conj LR Hekate in SR 1st H and in natal 3d H

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posted February 20, 2019 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you want just the [img]insert link here [/img] bit

as for macron given the current state of things i'd say there's a possibility at the same time though it's gotten a lot harder for people to kill their leaders and there aren't any pressing foreign affairs that would lead me to believe he's a target of another nation on a scale where he'd have to worry as much as other people

and given that as far as his leadership goes it's more the people revolting than anything it's sort of iffy

maduro on the other hand is in a bit of a tight spot

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posted February 20, 2019 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ok, I try both the IMG and URL

I know it's less likely nowadays, but at the very least it'll be the end of his career.

Some more interesting aspects in his lunar return that month:

LR Pholus conj Natal Zero

both LR Pluto and LR Spirit conj natal AC

LR IC conj natal Spirit

LR 9th H cusp on Fantomas

LR AC conj natal Chiron

LR Samadhi 10°07 conj his Part of Death (around 9°35 in Gemini)

LR Vertex conj NN


But then again, why these death asteroids are on his IC/AC and not his MC..?

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posted February 20, 2019 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrodatabank entry with Source data:
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Macron,_Emmanuel

Pluto transits, even the hard ones, generally time psychological transformation, lesser deaths, rather than physical death. I think he will go through his political death, or at least a transforming moment in his career. That is already beginning, so the Asc degree is probably at least a couple degrees earlier as suggested by the transits of his wedding day and day of election to his current position.

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posted February 20, 2019 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Solar return for 2022:

SR Hybris 19°17 tightly conjunct SR 8th House cusp conj natal Asbolus

Asbolos was the seer under the Centaurs in Greek mythology, whose correct warnings not to fight the Lapiths were ignored. In contrast, he later provoked a bloodbath in which the centaurs Chiron and Pholus met their deaths at Heracles’ hands. Asbolos was crucified by the demigod, who shot arrows through his limbs.

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Asbolus is a heavyweight in the horoscope; sombre, pessimistic, with a lot of depth – ..

Macron ignoring the yellow vests, provoking a bloodbath..?

in his SR he does have Vertex conjunct Erato but even more exact on Teucer,

Teucer, great archer and legendary son of a king in Greek mythology, fought alongside his brother Ajax in the Trojan War, but the intrigues and tragedy of war ended with his banishment and exile.

SR DC conj natal Justitia

SR RIp and SR Aeternitas conj natal NN

SR Lilith conj natal Orcus and natal DC

SR Hel conj SR Chiron conj natal SN

SR Requiem conj SR Fantomas conj natal Osiris (Egyptian Lord of the Underworld and Judge of the Dead, ) and Cloud Gate

SR Vulcano conj Sr Sherlock conj SR Moon conj natal Dalmatin (sounds like Dalmatian as dream symbol means emotional protection that encourages you to care about other people's feelings. Noticing that you aren't perfect so that other people will feel good for you or do something for you.

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Dalmatians could also reflect situations where you or someone else is asking too much from other people when it comes to being honest. Showing off being a more respectable person than other people. Making people who more successful or powerful than you feel guilty if they want to choose allowing you to lose. A snobby attitude about setting a good example. Making other people feel that they aren’t honest if they don’t want to give you support you with special attention.)

SR moon also conj natal Klytaemnestra ((wife of king Agamemnon, she conspired with her lover to murder her husband. In revenge, her son Orestes murdered her and was driven mad by Erinyes for his crime.)


SR AC conj natal Burdigala (associated with battle/war) and natal agita (anxiety, stress, or aggravation.) , also conj natal Eleutheria (greek term for liberty..and natal Maniac

SR IC opp SR MC

SR Achilles conj SR Mars

SR Hylonome conj natal Hildrun This asteroid may give defensive, taciturn, enigmatic and combative qualities. Involvement in conflict and espionage is possible.


Sr Ceres conj natal Agamemnon (to be attacked)


SR IC conj natal 3d H cusp and natal Conard


SR Saturn conj natal Hermes ((god of thieves, liars, merchants. Also, the guide of dead souls. Also a deity of luck and money)

RIp conj NN
SN conj Quaoa
AC conj Ixion
2nd H cusp conj RIP
SR Chiron conj SN (opp pluto natal)
IC cusp conj 3d H cusp natal
SR uranus conj natal moon
SR 12th H cusp conj natal Atropos and natal Neptune
SR 9th H cusp conjunct Hinderer
SR dejanira conj natal Juno
SR Chaos conj natal Jupiter


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posted February 23, 2019 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol I'm still obsessing over Macron's Solar return for 2022 and checked some more interesting asteroids..

Here's a few that were apparently prominent in JFK's chart as well:

Phaeton and Bellerophon.

Phaethon is generally associated with out of control, dangerous behaviour, people that get carried away, car crashes and accidents.
Phaethon was the son of the Sun God, Helios. He asked his father if he could drive the chariot of the sun – but when he took the reins things span out of control rather quickly. The Sun chariot ended up scorching Africa, accounting for it’s desert areas; eventually, Zeus struck him off the chariot to save the world and Phaethon died.


his SR Phaethon conj natal Melancholia (exact) and natal Athanasia (meaning: deathlessness; immortality. ) and natal 'Lie'.

Natal Phaeton (on astro.com 23cap35 on other site: 23cap44 conjunct natal dejanira 23cap36 conjunct natal MORON 23 cap 47 (rofl)

(1808) Bellerophon
Overreaching, fatal crashes, being disabled or ‘crippled’ in some way.

SR Venus conjunct natal Bellerophon (natal bellerophon 13cap45 is exact conj natal Oenone (in Greek mythology, Oenone ( Ancient Greek: means "wine woman") was the first wife of Paris of Troy, whom he abandoned for the Queen Helen of Sparta. )
and also conjunct natal Barbaresco which is an Italian wine.

SYMBOL OF WINE: symbol for transformation. wine may also symbolize sustinance and life.
Red as blood and gushing from deep in the ground, it symbolises life and strength. This image of strength is accentuated by the winding, twisted and wilful shape of the vine stock, which seems to have gone through many battles to offer its blood to mortals!

SR Bellerophon conjunct natal Amaterasu (and conj natal 11th H cusp) and conj natal Osaki (Osaki is a type of spirit possession of a fox told about in legends of Japan.) and natal Sirko (Sirko was a Ukrainian Cossack military leader, As a young man he served in Cossack regiments in France  )

Amaterasu is the sister of Susano'o, the god of the sea and storms, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the moon.
.. Amaterasu withdrew in protest into a cave, and darkness fell upon the world.

SR PLuto and Icarus (Accidents, excessive risk, gambles that don’t pay off,) conjunct his natal AC.

SR Astraea conj natal Pholus (conj natal Spartacus)
Astraea: Staying until the bitter end. While this may show someone with perseverance, the asteroid Astraea more often indicates someone who stays in a bad job/relationship/friendship far too long or doesn’t know when to let go.

SR Melpomene 6°14 conj SR pholus 6°20 (in SR 1st H) conj natal 12th H cusp

Melpomene
Grief, loss, mourning. Next to any of the love asteroids (Amor, Eros, Psyche) this can make for disastrous or painful love affairs, and can even indicate death or loss of a partner.

SR Nyctimene (painful asteroid associated with abuse by father figure)) conj natal Chiron

SR Saturn conj natal DAMOCLES
SR DAMOCLES conj natal Graves and conj natal Belenus
(“The sword of Damocles” is quite well known as an expression: in short, it encapsulates the danger that rulers/leaders live with as a by-product of their power.)

SR Sisyphus (unending suffering and struggle) conj natal Achilles (deep wounding)

SR Pholus 6°20 in cap conj SR Karma 6°21 conj natal 12th H cusp conj natal ginkgo (chinese medicinal plant with yellow flowers good for memory) (>> with pholus on there, getting a taste of your own medicine/bitter pill to swallow..? yellow vests reminding (memory) him.. / conj natal Portalatin (this surname comes from the Latin "porta" meaning "gate.")

Another funny asteroid that may refer to the Yellow vests, is yellowriver. (with river could represent their emotions);
in 2022 SR Yellowriver is conjunct his natal Sun
and SR Saturn is conj his natal Yellowriver which also conjuncts his natal Damocles and FURIA, Lilith, Babylon, Heracles, Imhotep, Astarte, Armenia and Annjudge..

SR IC conjuncts SR Niobe (Grief, sorrows. Niobe loses her entire family.) conj natal Assesse (assessee meaning: a person or group that is being assessed (= judged), especially in order to decide how much taxthey must pay) and conj natal Gladstone ( who was a British statesman and Liberal Party politician with long career. Gladstone was known affectionately by his supporters as "The People's William but since Macron's Niobe is conjuncting his Gladstone, he won't be remembered as such of course.


If these could be indicators of a real attack and not just the death of his career, I wonder if the fact that SR Venus will be on Bellerophon (fatal crashes) and wine symbolism and SR Phaeton (car crashes and accidents.) conj natal deathlessness/immortality could mean that he could survive an attack?


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posted February 23, 2019 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Playing with possibilities can be fun, but there is no way to predict somebody's death for sure. In astrology or any other science

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posted February 24, 2019 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I follow the news a lot over here and I really do not think this is possible/desired/going to happen

He may retire because he looses to marine lepen, a female version of Trump whose party was created by her racist father. Unfortunately.

He has erased everyother option by creating a divide between progressists led by him and nationalists/populist/racists led by her, that will be his legacy

His election was possible because he was an outsider to politics, being young and not a "professional politician" before he had become the finance minister under Hollande presidency. He promised to change everything in how politics are done, and disappointed the low income people while the happy few seem to be getting richer.

But he is young and probably do not expect to be president for the rest of his life therefore he must have a back up plan, a career plan.

Yellow vest are not into murdering anyone, internet does seem to exacerbate people views on things sometimes.

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posted February 24, 2019 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
I follow the news a lot over here and I really do not think this is possible/desired/going to happen

He may retire because he looses to marine lepen, a female version of Trump whose party was created by her racist father. Unfortunately.

He has erased everyother option by creating a divide between progressists led by him and nationalists/populist/racists led by her, that will be his legacy

His election was possible because he was an outsider to politics, being young and not a "professional politician" before he had become the finance minister under Hollande presidency. He promised to change everything in how politics are done, and disappointed the low income people while the happy few seem to be getting richer.

But he is young and probably do not expect to be president for the rest of his life therefore he must have a back up plan, a career plan.

Yellow vest are not into murdering anyone, internet does seem to exacerbate people views on things sometimes.


This is an astrology forum, so your prediction based on what the news is telling you, isn't really of any interest. Of course, I'm merely speculating about the possibility, not saying he will be killed or that the yellow vests as a movement desire this, but it would be silly to say it is impossible just because that's not what the intent is as a movement. It only takes one person, 1 bullet or even an unintentional accident for that matter.

I'm sure he has a back up plan for a change in career thanks to his Rothchild friends behind the scenes who are probably more responsible for his rise in politics, rather than mere chance from previously being 'an outsider' as is what people who watch mainstream media are told to believe. Just like they say all nationalists are supposedly racist is a ludicrous and insulting assumption. But ok, back to astrology now, he does will have Pluto sextiling his MC during the new elections, so there's still hope for Micron, sorry M*a*cron.


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posted February 24, 2019 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astri:
This is an astrology forum, so your prediction based on what the news is telling you, isn't really of any interest. Of course, I'm merely speculating about the possibility, not saying he will be killed or that the yellow vests as a movement desire this, but it would be silly to say it is impossible just because that's not what the intent is as a movement. It only takes one person, 1 bullet or even an unintentional accident for that matter.

I'm sure he has a back up plan for a change in career thanks to his Rothchild friends behind the scenes who are probably more responsible for his rise in politics, rather than mere chance from previously being 'an outsider' as is what people who watch mainstream media are told to believe. Just like they say all nationalists are supposedly racist is a ludicrous and insulting assumption. But ok, back to astrology now, he does will have Pluto sextiling his MC during the new elections, so there's still hope for Micron, sorry M*a*cron.



it seems like you're trying to make astrology fit an illogical prediction rather than making a prediction off of what seems logical and seeing if the astrology backs it up

i'm sure it's possible to cherry pick all kinds of things to fit most **** , especially when you start including all kinds of asteroids and so on

fact is given today's current technology, how safe politicians are typically kept, france's foreign relations etc and so on it's highly unlikely even if the yellow vests were inclined towards wanting his assassination that they would be able to manage it and it's unlikely to come from another source too

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Originally posted by astri:
This is an astrology forum, so your prediction based on what the news is telling you, isn't really of any interest. Of course, I'm merely speculating about the possibility, not saying he will be killed or that the yellow vests as a movement desire this, but it would be silly to say it is impossible just because that's not what the intent is as a movement. It only takes one person, 1 bullet or even an unintentional accident for that matter.

I'm sure he has a back up plan for a change in career thanks to his Rothchild friends behind the scenes who are probably more responsible for his rise in politics, rather than mere chance from previously being 'an outsider' as is what people who watch mainstream media are told to believe. Just like they say all nationalists are supposedly racist is a ludicrous and insulting assumption. But ok, back to astrology now, he does will have Pluto sextiling his MC during the new elections, so there's still hope for Micron, sorry M*a*cron.



Or, you could be polite, listen to this nice man who took the time to respond to you, and link astrology to the things that he pointed out. It was interesting to me.

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posted February 24, 2019 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
it seems like you're trying to make astrology fit an illogical prediction rather than making a prediction off of what seems logical and seeing if the astrology backs it up

i'm sure it's possible to cherry pick all kinds of things to fit most **** , especially when you start including all kinds of asteroids and so on

fact is given today's current technology, how safe politicians are typically kept, france's foreign relations etc and so on it's highly unlikely even if the yellow vests were inclined towards wanting his assassination that they would be able to manage it and it's unlikely to come from another source too


Not at all. There is nothing illogical about assuming an assassination could happen on a politician who is very unpopular, has ongoing violent protests against him and astrologically speaking has pluto conjuncting his ascendant and we all know that pluto conjuncting the ascendant is a big event and pluto is amongst other things, the planet associated with death and based on these facts, I looked further into things to see if more aspects were backing this idea up. So I did exactly what you claim I didn’t do. But as I said before, I know very well that this could be a symbolic death of his career, but at the same time it could be literal death as well. So why several here seem to insist on ruling that possibility out based on their own illogical presumptions, doesn’t make sense to me either.

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posted February 24, 2019 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Or, you could be polite, listen to this nice man who took the time to respond to you, and link astrology to the things that he pointed out. It was interesting to me.

Which man? I don’t know who’s man or woman here. If you meant the poster ’pire’, it is he or she who started with the disrespectful lecture of assuming ‘the internet exacerbates people views on things sometimes’ as if the idea of him getting assasinated is completely illogical, which it clearly isn’t as I previously explained. And as for the other posters, none other than Kannon McAfee has said something valuable astrologically in relation to this subject, so I would read the thread first before you say silly things again. Nuff said.

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Astri, please keep sharing your interesting interpretations of Macron’ asteroid whatthefuck conjunct his dark moon papacosmos in his lunar return of may 2022.

You are onto something astrologically. Prediction is always very interesting. I am not as good as you on that type of astrology and I know nothing about asteroid Alfa Romeo conjunct Monica Bellucci ‘s south node and asteroid nickyminaj conjunct her belanus asteroid. But you seem to know your stuff.
I go and grab some popcorn 🍿

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Originally posted by astri:
Which man? I don’t know who’s man or woman here. If you meant the poster ’pire’, it is he or she who started with the disrespectful lecture of assuming ‘the internet exacerbates people views on things sometimes’ as if the idea of him getting assasinated is completely illogical, which it clearly isn’t as I previously explained. And as for the other posters, none other than Kannon McAfee has said something valuable astrologically in relation to this subject, so I would read the thread first before you say silly things again. Nuff said.

He mentioned things like Macron was young and an outsider. That he probably won't win again, and will be up against someone whose birth information you could also look at, to see if she might win. Kannon pointed out that things don't always mean a literal death, that much of the time is a change in someone's life - I did see his post.

You basically told pire that he had nothing to offer here, and I disagreed.

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posted February 25, 2019 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
Astri, please keep sharing your interesting interpretations of Macron’ asteroid whatthefuck conjunct his dark moon papacosmos in his lunar return of may 2022.

You are onto something astrologically. Prediction is always very interesting. I am not as good as you on that type of astrology and I know nothing about asteroid Alfa Romeo conjunct Monica Bellucci ‘s south node and asteroid nickyminaj conjunct her belanus asteroid. But you seem to know your stuff.
I go and grab some popcorn 🍿

Forget me please, my bad



Another needless and condescending response that has nothing, nada to do with astrology. Try and come up with an actual astrologically based argument if you insist on disagreeing but it seems like you don’t have any and you’re not even aware of your own illogical knee-jerk reaction, so I agree you should just keep stuffing your face with popcorn. Have a great one!

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posted February 25, 2019 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
He mentioned things like Macron was young and an outsider. That he probably won't win again, and will be up against someone whose birth information you could also look at, to see if she might win. Kannon pointed out that things don't always mean a literal death, that much of the time is a change in someone's life - I did see his post.

You basically told pire that he had nothing to offer here, and I disagreed.


lol teasel, you’re not the smartest person in the room are you? As a reminder, you’re the one who claimed his response (referring to one man, ‘pire’ apparently) was interesting in the way he linked it to astrology. Yet, he hadn’t said anything astrologically wise. Now you’re twisting it around, because you realize I’m right and trying to divert from what you said initially and claiming I said he had nothing to offer to this thread which is a twist once again on the fact I said he has nothing to offer when it comes to *astrology* . Thanks, but please grow a brain and stop embarrassing yourself. I don’t feel like wasting any more time on fools like you.

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