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Leo-Cancer98
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posted February 21, 2019 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or does it depend on the particular aspect?

For instance, if someone has Aries Sun trine Saturn at less than 1 degree and Saturn in exact conjunction with his MC, would automatically be "Saturnian", irrespective of having Venus square Saturn by a 3 degree orb as well? What exactly would differ if the Aries Sun was conjunct Saturn at less than 1 degree?

What about someone with Pisces Mercury trine Cancer Mars by an orb of 0'13 degrees & her Mars is in the 3rd House. Would she 3x more Martian in communication than someone with a Mercury-Mars conjunction?

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posted February 21, 2019 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
usually the smaller the orb the stronger it is, but when it's a minimal difference it's not going to be much difference between one or the other

very loose orbs won't play out the way very tight ones will but most tight orbs you won't see a huge difference between

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posted February 21, 2019 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
usually the smaller the orb the stronger it is, but when it's a minimal difference it's not going to be much difference between one or the other

very loose orbs won't play out the way very tight ones will but most tight orbs you won't see a huge difference between


Sorry, I’m a little confused. Could you be a bit more precise please?

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posted February 21, 2019 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Sorry, I’m a little confused. Could you be a bit more precise please?

my bad i meant if you have aspects that are looser than 3 degrees you'll notice they're not as strong, but 3 degrees and under you probably aren't going to see major differences

one person might have a 2 degree orb and someone else might have a 3 degree one but the difference will be subtle whereas as you get past that you'll gradually see a weakening in the strength of things unless other areas of the chart reinforce some of that energy

what's interesting is in vedic aspects don't matter the way they do in western and sharing a house is basically a conjunction, and in some ways you can kind of see how planets sharing a house can affect one another but in my experience reading charts the orbs really do make a difference

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posted February 21, 2019 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it really depends on the aspect. I find conjunctions and oppositions to still have a noticeable influence even with wider orbs (usually not more than 10 degrees though). Trines, sextiles, and squares, I find they have to be very close or else you (like up to 5 degrees) barely feel them.

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posted February 21, 2019 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I think it really depends on the aspect. I find conjunctions and oppositions to still have a noticeable influence even with wider orbs (usually not more than 10 degrees though). Trines, sextiles, and squares, I find they have to be very close or else you (like up to 5 degrees) barely feel them.

i can agree with looser orbs working for conjunctions because my mars/neptune is legit in spite of being 9 degrees, though i also have sun trine neptune with a 3 degree orb so that energy is there anyway

but mars/neptune is very easy for me to relate to whereas cap mars on its own not so much

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posted February 21, 2019 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A square aspect in my case 5 degrees I feel really strongly, so I'd consider more than 3 for sure. And oppositions... 7 in my case I still feel the effects of.

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posted February 22, 2019 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still pick up on Mars trine Pluto in my chart even though the orb is 8 degrees. For some reason, I'm extra sensitive to both Saturn and Pluto so aspects I have involving these planets can be felt at wider orbs than expected.

This woman I know has Venus square Chiron at 5 degrees. Her love life is far worse than mine and I have Venus square Chiron in my chart too and with a much tighter orb than her. This indicates that it probably depends on the person which aspects tend to be felt as a strong influence. In my case, Venus probably doesn't play a dominant role in my chart, but in the woman's chart, Venus is a more dominant influence, meaning she's more affected by a square from Venus to Chiron than I am.

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posted February 22, 2019 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Closest one is 0°15' of Orb.
Venus Conjunct Moon in Gemini 2nd House.
But I don't feel much cos of too many other Aspects in my chart.

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posted March 08, 2019 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lerena:
I still pick up on Mars trine Pluto in my chart even though the orb is 8 degrees. For some reason, I'm extra sensitive to both Saturn and Pluto so aspects I have involving these planets can be felt at wider orbs than expected.

This woman I know has Venus square Chiron at 5 degrees. Her love life is far worse than mine and I have Venus square Chiron in my chart too and with a much tighter orb than her. This indicates that it probably depends on the person which aspects tend to be felt as a strong influence. In my case, Venus probably doesn't play a dominant role in my chart, but in the woman's chart, Venus is a more dominant influence, meaning she's more affected by a square from Venus to Chiron than I am.


Is it true that people with Mars-Pluto aspects are sex addicts?

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posted March 08, 2019 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I think it really depends on the aspect. I find conjunctions and oppositions to still have a noticeable influence even with wider orbs (usually not more than 10 degrees though). Trines, sextiles, and squares, I find they have to be very close or else you (like up to 5 degrees) barely feel them.

Is the conjunction and the opposition the top 2 most influential aspects out of them all? So if an Aries had a Libra Moon in the 7th House, but it trines Mars by 3 degrees and square Uranus by 4 degrees, those aspects are closing enough in orb to modify the Venusian expression of your typical Libra Moon?

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posted March 08, 2019 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Typically yes, but don't forget that there are also other factors involved in this.

My tightest aspect is Moon opposite Pluto with an orb of 0°01'

I feel it very strongly but let's also remember that it is opposite one of my chart rulers (Scorpio ASC), with Pluto parallel my ASC and my Moon also being in my 8th house. All of these factors combine, along with what else is going on in my chart as well.

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posted March 09, 2019 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Typically yes, but don't forget that there are also other factors involved in this.

My tightest aspect is Moon opposite Pluto with an orb of 0°01'

I feel it very strongly but let's also remember that it is opposite one of my chart rulers (Scorpio ASC), with Pluto parallel my ASC and my Moon also being in my 8th house. All of these factors combine, along with what else is going on in my chart as well.


Thanks girrlll

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posted March 09, 2019 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally yes. But I'd take into account whether the aspect is in sign or not. Like a 3 orbs in sign conjunction can be equally strong (or even stronger) than a zero orbit out of sign conjunction. Also planets involved. Any conjunction within 5 degrees to the sun (combust) would override any other conjunction even at 0 degrees I believe.

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