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Leo-Cancer98
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posted March 09, 2019 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone with this placement in their natal chart care to share how your 12th House Sun influences you in everyday life?

I know the 12th House is considered the weakest house, as its associated with Pisces, but does your 12th House Sun dominate your Suns' aspects, your Rising Sign, its respective lord, your Moon Sign, and its house placement by any chance?

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posted March 10, 2019 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me certainly. But it's my Moon there too.

I have Gemini Moon and rising... Sun Taurus...

I'm a lone wolf lol. I love my privacy. I spend a LOT of time alone.

But with those I feel some sort of chemistry with... I feel like I talk non-stop. That's when my Gemini placements rise to the surface I guess.

I'm a day dreamer. To a fault lol. It's a joke between my close buddies that I never 'hear' what's going on. Like they'll have a conversation about something and I can be totally there and 'supposedly' listening. But I'll have no recollection of the conversation simply cuz my mind was just not there at all. And it's not cuz I'm not interested. Just someone says something, which reminds me of something else... I'll think about how that is related to my own situation... And just wander off somewhere else completely. Kinda feels like in a haze all of the God damn time. But all this is probably my Moon there. Not sure if Sun itself would behave there this way, although it might.

As far as my Sun... Unlike what Gemini rising would normally be like, I feel that I'm much more introverted. And I think I'll always have a certain receptivity regardless of how much I talk. I have a certain 'innocent' look lol. Like this kid that has never done anyone any harm... Ya know. Up until they get to see my Aries Mercury square Mars. Totally throws them off. But anyway you wanna know about Sun... So yeah houses are areas of life. So it's the Suns' energy directed towards twelfth house stuff. And I do agree that I take interest in those sorts of things. I love dreaminess, abstract art... I'm really spiritual. I'll make connections to things that nobody would otherwise realize exists. It's geared inwards, which would also make them suggestible. Not only necessarily in the being influenced by opinions... In this case my Taurus Sun is stubborn and other placements counter it... But the suggestibleness is more like I'll listen to you and probably not have an opinion about it up until you ask me for one. I'm subjective in that sense. Also, this might be my Moon though... But maybe Sun. If I think of something I find funny, there's no barrier, you'll see me smiling to myself lol. Walking on the street... thank God for phones lol I have somewhere to look at without looking like a complete idiot and just smiling at passerbyers.

Funny story that I just reminded myself of omg haha. I was driving once and there was this cop parked and he was standing in the back of his car faced towards the cars passing by. I totally didn't 'see' him, or realize him whatever, I was just driving and suddenly I see him 'smiling back' at me lolol omg that was just too funny. I was just totally in my own head thinking about something random and smiling about it... Only realized that I was smiling after the fact lol.

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posted March 10, 2019 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Cancer Sun in 12th H.
Neptune opposite Sun (5 orbs) and ASC (exact). Moon in Pices is my chart ruler.

Even though I have lots of Neptune I haven't read the interpetations of Sun in 12th H in any other of my placements and aspects.

I need to be alone a lot.
I also like working on the background, I've thought a billion of times how much I would like to be invisible if it was to choose a magic power.
I don't lack self esteem at all actually (probably due to personal planets in Leo in 2nd H) I just feel that other people suck my energy which leads to me feeling exhausted all the time.

Being invisible gives the ultimate freedom too. I also don't have the identity/personality problems probably because Uranus is in a tighter opposition to my Sun. However I have other Neptunian problems like lacking motivation and drive to actually do things. Also confusion about how to take action especially in carrier (I don't care about relationships) But I think Neptune conjuncting my DSC is the main reason for that confusion.

I relate to all obstacles mentioned in the 12th H Sun and 8th H Saturn. ALL of them.

My father was Neptunian in the best way possible when it comes to me. He loved me the unconditionally even though he was an earthy type. I won't start talking about how wonderful the relationship with my father was. You get the meaning.
But he died so now I remember when I was reading Saturn in 8th H and Sun in 12th H interpretations saying about unknown/addict/cold/distant father or a father who dies "early". So it proves that it had to be one of these intrepretations and since it wasn't any of the other ones it was the early death of his.

Also my father suffered a lot and was very lonely as a child and a teenager. He didn't have any love from his family members or someone else although he was highly respected. I'm very proud of him because he could be a drug/alcohol addict mainly because of how he suffered untill his early 20s. Plus his father was an alcohol addict (extreme case). But my father was a very strong stable type (Taurus).

Actually my father wasn't Neptunian at all, it's more like his love was Neptunian in the way that it was selfless and unconditional. Plus he was for about 2 years in a hospital before he died (of course I had transits who activated my Sun).

I won't talk about intuition because I have Pisces Moon and Neptune conjunct North Node in 7th H, I don't think Sun in 12th H by itself would give such a good intuition by itself.

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posted March 10, 2019 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun is in the 12th, but tightly conjunct my asc, with mars conjunct as well, just on the other side of the asc. all in gemini. i display very typical gemini traits, BUT, I LOVE/NEED alone time. I feel this is getting more so the older I get. I have never enjoyed being in the spotlight, though I have enjoyed being in very active/happening social situations. I like being 'anonymous' or hidden and un-noticed. Aries rules my 12th, so interesting that Mars lands in the first. While I can be an excellent conversationist, I find it exhausting if not with the right ppl. I think the gemini influence really creates a dynamic where I can be SUPER 12th house orientated, but flip and be super 1st house, go-getter, driven, bold. it all depends on my mood/the day.

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posted March 11, 2019 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know somebody with a 12th house stellium (Sun/SN, Mercury and Venus) in Aries. All her personal planets are in water houses and fire signs (except Cancer Mars on IC). She has a grand fire trine between Venus/Mercury (12H) -Saturn (5H)- Moon/Neptune (8H) and a kite based on this grand fire trine. She is one of the most hardworking, disciplined and successful persons I've ever seen. She has a huuuuge friend circle and is also socially very active. Nothing goes wrong. She does anything and everything well. Everybody loves her. I envy and admire here. I tried to observe her, how her 12th house stellium plays out. It seems that it plays out as her profession in creative writing.

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posted March 11, 2019 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also relate to Sun in 12th -despite not having the Sun technically placed there.

I have the ruler of the 12th(Neptune) sandwiched between my Sun and Jupiter(but in the 9th).

My father was absent emotionally and his personality was unknown to me. That is until later when it surfaced that he is not my biological father.

Weirdly however, my biological father is no different from the Neptune metaphor i.e he is very elusive too. And he(like my step Dad) has Saturn/Moon conjunct with Sun/Venus in Aqua. Whilst Step Dad has Mercury-Uranus conjunct in Leo.

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posted March 12, 2019 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've Taurus Sun in 12H. I don't like too much attention (esp unnecessary ones). I like to be alone even when I'm in a group. Don't like people bothering me or talking to me too much unless I'm in a mood to chat or have fun. My Sun sextiles Mars/Saturn so I've an inner strength/resilience that's not immediately obvious.

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posted May 03, 2019 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I've Taurus Sun in 12H. I don't like too much attention (esp unnecessary ones). I like to be alone even when I'm in a group. Don't like people bothering me or talking to me too much unless I'm in a mood to chat or have fun. My Sun sextiles Mars/Saturn so I've an inner strength/resilience that's not immediately obvious.

What's your Mercury Sign, house placement and how is it aspected? What's going on in your 11th House of social life?

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posted May 05, 2019 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
What's your Mercury Sign, house placement and how is it aspected? What's going on in your 11th House of social life?

Mercury also in 12H sextile Saturn. Jupiter in 11H trine Moon/Neptune, sextile Asc, opposite Pluto, square Saturn. I actually have lotsa friends but I don't take initiative to keep in touch or organise gatherings... very passive.

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posted May 05, 2019 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PiscesVenus:
I know somebody with a 12th house stellium (Sun/SN, Mercury and Venus) in Aries. All her personal planets are in water houses and fire signs (except Cancer Mars on IC). She has a grand fire trine between Venus/Mercury (12H) -Saturn (5H)- Moon/Neptune (8H) and a kite based on this grand fire trine. She is one of the most hardworking, disciplined and successful persons I've ever seen. She has a huuuuge friend circle and is also socially very active. Nothing goes wrong. She does anything and everything well. Everybody loves her. I envy and admire here. I tried to observe her, how her 12th house stellium plays out. It seems that it plays out as her profession in creative writing.

That’s really interesting how your friend has a 12th house stellium but is social 😮 I also have a 12th house stellium and Im very very introverted, shy, and quiet. People probably think Im anti social or something. And well, I wouldn’t really say “anti social” just unsocial. But I cant imagine I fellow 12th houser social lol and my stellium is in the social butterfly Aquarius. Always been very introverted since I was a child.

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posted May 06, 2019 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus stellium in the 12th here. I definitely have trouble with escapism but I definitely wouldn't call these placements weak. It's the house of serve or suffer and it's played out that way my whole life. I've been able to be of service to I don't know how many people, even in the tiniest way. It also comes with a lot of psychic energy that's hard to handle sometimes. I can also remember my past lives. And yes yes yes I need to be alone quite a lot!

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posted May 06, 2019 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Taurus stellium in the 12th here. I definitely have trouble with escapism but I definitely wouldn't call these placements weak. It's the house of serve or suffer and it's played out that way my whole life. I've been able to be of service to I don't know how many people, even in the tiniest way. It also comes with a lot of psychic energy that's hard to handle sometimes. I can also remember my past lives. And yes yes yes I need to be alone quite a lot!

You're saying service, but isn't that a 6th house thing? I have a hard time imagining myself being of service to people lol. Something I hate. (Sun/Moon in the 12th here)

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posted May 06, 2019 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
You're saying service, but isn't that a 6th house thing? I have a hard time imagining myself being of service to people lol. Something I hate. (Sun/Moon in the 12th here)

Where the 6th house is the house of materialistic service, the 12th takes on a whole new meaning. It forces you to become aware of yourself on a whole new level and that part of you is what you offer to the world. That's the way I see it anyway.

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posted May 06, 2019 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Where the 6th house is the house of materialistic service, the 12th takes on a whole new meaning. It forces you to become aware of yourself on a whole new level and that part of you is what you offer to the world. That's the way I see it anyway.

I see what you mean. More so the wanting to share and help people with those experiences that transcended you into a different being. Or at least the way I understand it lol. I mean that is rather something I can see myself doing.

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posted May 07, 2019 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I see what you mean. More so the wanting to share and help people with those experiences that transcended you into a different being. Or at least the way I understand it lol. I mean that is rather something I can see myself doing.

Yes, I have a stellium in the 6th too so I guess I do both lol. I really like the 12th house now that I'm older, it's rough getting used to though.

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posted May 07, 2019 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Yes, I have a stellium in the 6th too so I guess I do both lol. I really like the 12th house now that I'm older, it's rough getting used to though.

What planets are in your 12th? I mean I wonder why it would take some getting used to... Maybe it's different for me since it's my luminaries there? I feel like I express it naturally I guess. So curious what you have in your 6th/12th.

Side question... Hope you don't mind me asking lol but are you a guy or gal? (Your posts' contents make me think you're a gal, but your style talking is very guy'ish. Not in an offensive way I think it's cool but confusing at the same time)

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posted May 07, 2019 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am close to someone with it. It makes self assertion very hard.

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posted May 07, 2019 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
What planets are in your 12th? I mean I wonder why it would take some getting used to... Maybe it's different for me since it's my luminaries there? I feel like I express it naturally I guess. So curious what you have in your 6th/12th.

Side question... Hope you don't mind me asking lol but are you a guy or gal? (Your posts' contents make me think you're a gal, but your style talking is very guy'ish. Not in an offensive way I think it's cool but confusing at the same time)


I am a woman lol, I've been told I have masculine energy though. Sun and venus in taurus, mercury in Aries, chiron and nn conjunct ascendant in gemini
6th house is moon 29 libra, Pluto at 0 scorpio, saturn and Mars in scorpio
Everything not in the 12th house is retrograde btw but I've never had a problem asserting myself.... Maybe it's all the scorpio energy? I think having the moon in the 12th is a whole different story and would have a much different affect than just the sun, each planet is so different depending on which house it's in.

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posted May 07, 2019 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@brenda_s how do you think having the moon in the 12th manifests for you? I've only known one other person with that placement.

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posted May 07, 2019 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I am a woman lol, I've been told I have masculine energy though. Sun and venus in taurus, mercury in Aries, chiron and nn conjunct ascendant in gemini
6th house is moon 29 libra, Pluto at 0 scorpio, saturn and Mars in scorpio
Everything not in the 12th house is retrograde btw but I've never had a problem asserting myself.... Maybe it's all the scorpio energy? I think having the moon in the 12th is a whole different story and would have a much different affect than just the sun, each planet is so different depending on which house it's in.

So I'm guessing it's your Sun and Venus in the 12th?

And I don't think 12th house issues is about asserting oneself. Like I don't necessarily have a prob with that. (I'm Gemini rising with Mercury in Aries as well - I guess it's the Mercury that helps with assertion)

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posted May 07, 2019 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
@brenda_s how do you think having the moon in the 12th manifests for you? I've only known one other person with that placement.

It makes me a daydreamer lol. I think that's my biggest issue. Like I can sit in a circle of friends and literally not be part of the conversation since my mind is just elsewhere. Even having a one on one conversation can suck a lotta times since I have to focus on concentrating what that person says in case they ask me a question or crack a joke or something lol. I'm literally in my own world. (Probably sounds worse on paper lol I don't think it's that obvious to the recipient. But it's definitely a struggle for me)

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posted May 07, 2019 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brenda..
Who you running from?

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posted May 07, 2019 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Brenda..
Who you running from?


I wish I'd know lol. It happens without consciously doing it.

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posted May 07, 2019 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You reap what you sow..
You know???

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posted May 07, 2019 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ballerina:
You reap what you sow..
You know???


I didn't sow my subconscious wandering off'ism. Nor did I do anything to cause this. Maybe enlighten me.

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