posted March 10, 2019 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Did you mean Venus in Aries instead of Venus in Taurus? being 1st house.

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posted March 10, 2019 07:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
No, that's what I'm saying. The conjunction to Mars should have me relate to Aries Venus, but I don't.

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posted March 10, 2019 11:10 PM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I think Aries Eagle means that the first house rules Aries. So having planets in the first house would be like having an Aries Venus.

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posted March 11, 2019 01:48 AM            

I've first house Venus in Gemini but I'm different from an Aries Venus as in I don't lose interest quickly and I don't like tension. I also don't chase the ones I like. I'm pretty shy in that aspect. However, we're similar in that I also like to keep things fresh in my relationship (Geminis do too, in fact) and I don't like to play games.

posted March 11, 2019 04:23 PM            

The themes here differ somewhat from Venus in Aries-which deals more with putting your "all in" in relationships i.e "Love(Venus) is a battlefield(Aries)". Think also of Cheryl Cole's "Fight for this love".

Now Venus in 1st functions a little differently:

Using beauty as an identity, using your looks to navigate through life, peaceful negotiations, champion for peace,passivity as a defense, assertion through looking for compromise, wearing your beauty on your sleeve, your looks makes other people put up their guard, dressing for success, being judged for how you look, "first impressions last", "pretty" privilege, feeling like your lookd define you,fashion that empowers the self, using looks to get what you want, beauty is your power, your clothes speak volumes, spending time grooming oneself, willing to try for an agreeable position, instantly liked, great smile, great skin, model material etc.

posted March 11, 2019 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I don't think Aries Venus and first house Venus are entirely the same. Then what about to your sign traits? Why bother with signs then if house placements tell it all?

I've first house Venus in Gemini but I'm different from an Aries Venus as in I don't lose interest quickly and I don't like tension. I also don't chase the ones I like. I'm pretty shy in that aspect. However, we're similar in that I also like to keep things fresh in my relationship (Geminis do too, in fact) and I don't like to play games.

We have similarities but not entirely the same.

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they're not, first house venus is different than aries venus and it has nothing to do with someone necessarily being forward the way aries venus is and so on

a planet being in any particular house doesn't mean it loses its identity or that the house stands for what the sign stands for

posted March 11, 2019 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i have venus conjunct ascendant in libra, why would i feel like venus in taurus when it's still in it's own sign?

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posted March 11, 2019 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Exactly!! this whole theory of one feeling like a certain sign based on houses they are placed is overriding and ignoring the influence of the signs the planets are placed in particular. Funny thing is the signs one supposedly feels like which in this particular case is Venus in Aries is also influenced by the house and aspects it is placed in, which means there is no pure Venus in Aries as such.

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yeah the theory falls apart when you actually look at what venus in aries means rather than venus 1st house

like i said you can read a chart without signs and be right about things because houses and aspects do hold up, but you don't do that by reading venus in aries instead of reading venus 1st house etc and so on

just like a venus aspect to mars won't give you venus in aries behavior either (and every aspect to mars in and of itself has its own unique expression anyway)

posted March 12, 2019 07:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
^ That's what I was getting at. It's not gonna feel entirely the same, just certain aspects... e.g. a Gemini Venus in 7H will seek harmony in their partnerships like a Libra but that doesn't make them a Libra Venus... then what becomes of their Gemini traits? Dissolved? Makes no sense.

@Leo-Cancer,
My Venus in 1H also square Mars and still, I don't feel like an Aries Venus.

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yeah, it really doesn't work and it ignores heavily aspected planets as well as sign

using placidus (which i honestly don't care for or find as accurate i just use it here because other people generally prefer it here so it's easier to be on the same page) my venus is 12th house, conjunct ascendant (by 2 degrees), sextile mercury, sextile uranus, trine chiron, opposite moon, and square mars

so using this theory i'd be reading it like a pisces, aries, aquarius,pick a mercury ruled sign etc and so on venus instead

wouldn't work to take away sign and try to alter it based on any single aspect or the house it's in etc

ability to relate to a quality here and there doesn't make someone a different sign (but like i said if they feel that way maybe the answer is in their draco or sidereal not in inventing a different system for reading charts that doesn't work well)

it also doesn't work very well to paint a house too heavily with the sign it lines up with

it's like saying a planet in 1st house makes someone the equivalent ascendant of whatever that planet rules

i'm not a scorpio ascendant just because my pluto is 1st house (maybe it adds weight to pluto, but it's sextile my sun anyway forming a minor trine with sun and neptune)

astrology works because it isnt vague and the details matter, a system like this would make it very vague and most of it meaningless

posted March 12, 2019 08:08 AM            

I have no idea what my Venus feels like, I’m definitely not cold or aloof.

I certainly take delight in seducing people, just for the fun of it (sorry, I know I’m a selfish twat), although I never sleep around, I just like the power of people falling under my spell.

posted March 13, 2019 03:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

hope that made sense i need coffee

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posted March 13, 2019 05:16 AM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
I have a first house Venus in Cap. But it is squared by Pluto.

I have no idea what my Venus feels like, I’m definitely not cold or aloof.

I certainly take delight in seducing people, just for the fun of it (sorry, I know I’m a selfish twat), although I never sleep around, I just like the power of people falling under my spell.

I don’t think I feel like an Aries Venus, again it’s really hard to describe what I feel like and how my Venus feels (Neptune in the first, muddying the waters).

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posted March 13, 2019 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i have venus conjunct ascendant in libra, why would i feel like venus in taurus when it's still in it's own sign?

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posted March 14, 2019 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by aamhz:
Post chart.

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Hijack

posted May 03, 2019 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
I have a first house Venus in Cap. But it is squared by Pluto.

I have no idea what my Venus feels like, I’m definitely not cold or aloof.

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The square to Pluto must cancel out the usual cold and aloof characteristics of Venus in Capricorn. How is the orb?