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ChildofVenus
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posted March 11, 2019 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you are the opposite? It’s frustrating when you enjoy talking to them.

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posted March 11, 2019 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is so frustrating?

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posted March 11, 2019 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean Mutable sun? What is your mercury sign?

Yeah, why is so frustrating?

I think Sun/Mercury aspect in synastry create the "enjoy talking to you".

My husband is Gemini sun with Cancer mercury, I am Aquarius sun with Aquarius mercury. I think it is him who enjoy talking to me (or listen to me talking) more than me. My mercury trine his Sun. For me, his Cancer mercury is so frustrating (his mercury doesn't make an aspect to my sun). He often uses ambiguous statement and tend to give little from each truth which annoying. I also have a hard time to understand why he is saying what he is saying.

I have a Taurus sun friend with Gemini mercury, I always feel very happy talking to him although he is the one who will talk very much. His Gemini mercury trine my Sun.

I love Sun/Mercury in synastry, the communication goes very well and it's one of important thing in a relationship, especially if other Mercury touches my Sun, nice, but DW maybe better.

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posted March 11, 2019 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Do you mean Mutable sun? What is your mercury sign?

Yeah, why is so frustrating?

I think Sun/Mercury aspect in synastry create the "enjoy talking to you".

My husband is Gemini sun with Cancer mercury, I am Aquarius sun with Aquarius mercury. I think it is him who enjoy talking to me (or listen to me talking) more than me. My mercury trine his Sun. For me, his Cancer mercury is so frustrating (his mercury doesn't make an aspect to my sun). He often uses ambiguous statement and tend to give little from each truth which annoying. I also have a hard time to understand why he is saying what he is saying.

I have a Taurus sun friend with Gemini mercury, I always feel very happy talking to him although he is the one who will talk very much. His Gemini mercury trine my Sun.

I love Sun/Mercury in synastry, the communication goes very well and it's one of important thing in a relationship, especially if other Mercury touches my Sun, nice, but DW maybe better.


My Mercury sextile his Sun and his Mercury quintile my Sun. But he’s too reserved for me I guess too much water in his chart. I know it’s because of my Mercury being in Aries. Yeah that Cancer Mercury is frustrating so then you know what I mean. It’s not his Gemini Sun that bothers me I have Mars in Gemini so I’m kind of familiar with the energy.

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posted March 12, 2019 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ So why do you highlight mutable sign?

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posted March 12, 2019 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I love Sun/Mercury in synastry, the communication goes very well and it's one of important thing in a relationship, especially if other Mercury touches my Sun, nice, but DW maybe better.

I've Sun trine Mercury DW with my last guy and yes, we really enjoy talking to each other. I feel that he gets me all the time like he can read my thoughts. But my Mercury also square his Saturn so that puts a damper at times.

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posted March 12, 2019 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because we also have Mercury square Mercury. Maybe it’s the things I say I’ll try not to be so personal. And just keep it light and friendly.

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posted March 12, 2019 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Because we also have Mercury square Mercury. Maybe it’s the things I say I’ll try not to be so personal. And just keep it light and friendly.

Both Aries and Cancer are cardinal signs.

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posted March 12, 2019 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Both Aries and Cancer are cardinal signs.

Which means what exactly? The elements are different though.

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posted March 12, 2019 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Which means what exactly? The elements are different though.

I think she refers to the title of your thread.

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posted March 12, 2019 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Which means what exactly? The elements are different though.

she's pointing out that the mercury square mercury is occuring in cardnial signs and you're talking about mutable ones

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posted March 12, 2019 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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she's pointing out that the mercury square mercury is occuring in cardnial signs and you're talking about mutable ones

Does it make a difference? If it’s in Cardinal signs or not?

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posted March 12, 2019 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Does it make a difference? If it’s in Cardinal signs or not?

only in the sense that the issue might be the square between cardinal mercuries rather than him being a mutable sun sign

but a communication issue is ultimately an issue regardless so it doesn't really matter i suppose

that being said what's exact issue you're having with communication?

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posted March 12, 2019 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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only in the sense that the issue might be the square between cardinal mercuries rather than him being a mutable sun sign

but a communication issue is ultimately an issue regardless so it doesn't really matter i suppose

that being said what's exact issue you're having with communication?



He’s just reserved and I think I’m too forward for him because of my Aries Mercury. Sometimes I’ll ask him something and he’ll be passive and change the subject. But so far in person it’s not like that I don’t know why.

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posted March 12, 2019 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ is it a vulgar question? How is your tone?

My Taurus sun sister has Aries mercury and I know how she can talk aggressively, too vulgar, insensitive (doesn't think twice before asking questions to certain type of person), and the tone.

Cancer mercury I know will probably respond if not getting ****** off and being passive aggressive, they will refuse to answer by avoiding talking about the subject. And the tone, wow, Cancer mercury is very sensitive with the tone you use.

I think Mercury square Mercury brings a lot of misunderstanding and in relationship can be a downfall, especially if one is too aggressive and the other is too passive. Feeling offended can not be avoided from lack of understanding in communication.

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posted March 12, 2019 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^^ is it a vulgar question? How is your tone?

My Taurus sun sister has Aries mercury and I know how she can talk aggressively, too vulgar, insensitive (doesn't think twice before asking questions to certain type of person), and the tone.

Cancer mercury I know will probably respond if not getting ****** off and being passive aggressive, they will refuse to answer by avoiding talking about the subject. And the tone, wow, Cancer mercury is very sensitive with the tone you use.

I think Mercury square Mercury brings a lot of misunderstanding and in relationship can be a downfall, especially if one is too aggressive and the other is too passive. Feeling offended can not be avoided from lack of understanding in communication.


Well I don’t think I’ve ever been insensitive. I don’t say things to hurt his feelings. I just think sometimes I can be a little too aggressive. Yeah when he doesn’t want to talk about something he will change the subject. And that’s fine with me I don’t mind. But it’s different when we are in person I don’t know why. Maybe because we are actually in each other’s presence. It doesn’t seem to be a problem when we communicate when we are in person. We laugh and talk a lot it’s fun I guess because we can actually see other? It was the same way when we talked over the phone. I think the Mercury/Mars/Jupiter aspects really come out when we are together. I don’t think I should stop talking to him because of the Mercury square Mercury aspect. I will just tone it down a bit and not be too aggressive with what I ask him. I wonder why the communication between us is different in person though.

He doesn’t act passive aggressive when we communicate in person. And my aggressiveness doesn’t seem to be an issue. You can’t hear a persons tone via texting. I may text something and might come across as aggressive. But in reality my tone isn’t aggressive at all.

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posted March 12, 2019 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like why is the communication so different and easy when we are in person or talking over the phone? Verses when we are texting? I don’t understand it.

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posted March 13, 2019 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dumuzi:
[b] only in the sense that the issue might be the square between cardinal mercuries rather than him being a mutable sun sign

but a communication issue is ultimately an issue regardless so it doesn't really matter i suppose

that being said what's exact issue you're having with communication?



He’s just reserved and I think I’m too forward for him because of my Aries Mercury. Sometimes I’ll ask him something and he’ll be passive and change the subject. But so far in person it’s not like that I don’t know why. [/B][/QUOTE]

easier to do that in text if you don't feel like answering i suppose, i can do that sometimes to people

if i really don't want to answer something and we've been talking steadily i wait until they give me something else to talk about or i wait a few then change the subject to avoid it

are they personal questions?

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posted March 13, 2019 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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easier to do that in text if you don't feel like answering i suppose, i can do that sometimes to people

if i really don't want to answer something and we've been talking steadily i wait until they give me something else to talk about or i wait a few then change the subject to avoid it

are they personal questions?


Yes personal questions I’m going to stop though. I can see how that can make a person feel uncomfortable. And if I say how I really feel that will probably be too forward. So I guess I just won’t say anything at all lol.

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posted March 14, 2019 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes personal questions I’m going to stop though. I can see how that can make a person feel uncomfortable. And if I say how I really feel that will probably be too forward. So I guess I just won’t say anything at all lol.

i prefer when people are just upfront with me, but i dont necessarily enjoy answering personal questions and if i dont want to i wont

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posted March 14, 2019 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i prefer when people are just upfront with me, but i dont necessarily enjoy answering personal questions and if i dont want to i wont

I don't know why but I think we are similar. I think it's the Venus/Uranus aspect lol.

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posted March 14, 2019 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't know why but I think we are similar. I think it's the Venus/Uranus aspect lol.

your mercury is right on my moon too if i remember right

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posted March 14, 2019 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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your mercury is right on my moon too if i remember right

Ok well it makes sense then lol.

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posted March 14, 2019 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus and Moon in 2nd House Gemini, Mutable Sign. But NN, Mercury and Sun in Cancer. I think most people like to communicate with me except few. Yes, I cannot make every one happy. Even God failed to do so. And I'm just a mere human being.

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