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viviette
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posted March 15, 2019 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Therés someone with an Aqua Venus but it’s in the deep 8th house. It’s been suggested that this is somewhat of a contradiction. Would it give a push n’ pull type character able to immerse but then wanting to dash off again. Plenty of space?

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posted March 15, 2019 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bearee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would interpret this as a person that doesn’t like superficial bonds (romantic partners as well as friends) and can FEEL deep emotions and attachments but the way they show these feelings and love for you may not come across as deep and intense. I think you would only know how much they care, when you know their whole personality and see how they treat people whom they don’t have deep feelings for.
I would think that people with Venus in Aquarius in the 8th house will show their deep feelings in being there for you and really listening to what you have to say. Being reliant in an intellectual way. Help you solve things and giving you space when they feel you need it.

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posted March 15, 2019 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bearee:
I would interpret this as a person that doesn’t like superficial bonds (romantic partners as well as friends) and can FEEL deep emotions and attachments but the way they show these feelings and love for you may not come across as deep and intense. I think you would only know how much they care, when you know their whole personality and see how they treat people whom they don’t have deep feelings for.
I would think that people with Venus in Aquarius in the 8th house will show their deep feelings in being there for you and really listening to what you have to say. Being reliant in an intellectual way. Help you solve things and giving you space when they feel you need it.

Thanks Bearee
Well. They seem to like to do their financial admin and volunteered to be on the work committee although it’s extra responsibility.
This person is there for a range of people, over half of their closest friends have difficult characters.

You are exactly right though, this person guaranteed a presence using the words being there. However it applies to many others too, so it feels somewhat diluted especially to a Venus Leo.

This person can only truly communicate with me on the phone or over a slow-moving series with gaps allowing for interruption. Or if I am jokey.

They recently said they don’t need love. (I had asked that after someone said it in a series.)
I suspect/hope they meant more that they are not needy and don’t beg for attention. But you did say their ‘way’ is rather different so yes maybe they dont want love in the way others would.
I guess day to day living together dilutes things anyway. And Space would be required if I ever became floral, just to balance that out?

But as I don’t need his help for problem-solving
how could I « engage » his unique kind of love ?

They have :
Pisces sun
Gem Asc

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posted March 16, 2019 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bearee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by viviette:

They recently said they don’t need love.

I would take this literally/serious. If he says he doesn't need love, he probably really doesn't need love This may be caused of his mom not being truly present with him when he was a little child, not giving him the love/recognition he needed at that time which may have resulted in him not relying on love from the opposite sex for his own survival purposes. This is not something you can change. Especially if he's just fine like this.

Funnily enough, I experienced this with someone who I had been in love with for a few years. He's a Pisces with Moon in Gemini (in the 8th house) and Venus in Aquarius.
He said from the start that he doesn't want a relationship, like ever. I didn't take it seriously and I got damaged eventually. Hard.
Anyway, everything is a learning experience no regrets.


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Originally posted by viviette:

But as I don’t need his help for problem-solving
how could I « engage » his unique kind of love ?


I would NOT expect a romantic relationship to happen, unless he has a change of heart (not really likely, if he has been vocal about his disinterest in (romantic) love, although I believe in miracles.) If something's supposed to happen, believe me, it will definitely happen, but I would not rely on him being romantically interested in you eventually. Just do your thing and if it's gonna happen, it will.

If you think you can have a platonic, friendly relationship with him just keep in contact and be yourself.

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posted March 17, 2019 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by viviette:
Therés someone with an Aqua Venus but it’s in the deep 8th house. It’s been suggested that this is somewhat of a contradiction. Would it give a push n’ pull type character able to immerse but then wanting to dash off again. Plenty of space?

The 7th house solar chart has Venus ruling it. The 8th house ruler is Mars/Pluto.

The ruler of the 8th is in the 7th it "negates" or adds complexities. Infact the ruler of a house in a house before it has a "12th house" effect on the house its in.

1st house ruler in 12th
2nd house ruler in 1st
3rd house ruler of 2nd etc.

I have Venus in Scorpio in 7th. And since Mars/Pluto rules Venus(Scorpio). When in the 7th, its like Mars/Pluto in 7th

I literally have Mars conjunct Dsc, Pluto (Scorpio)in 7th and Venus in 8th is close to the 8th too.

Venus in 8th/Pluto in 7th/Ruler of 8th in 7th/Mars in 7th/Libra on the 8th house cusp/Taurus on the 8th house cusp/Venus rules the 8th/Pluto rules the 7th /Mars rules the 7th/Scorpio in the 7th/Scorpio 29th degree/Venus-Pluto in aspect are similar in effect.

These people are likely to face some sort of tumultuous feelings when it comes to relationships i.e feelings of insecurity, fear of loss of love, fear of intimacy, huge emotional disappointments("death"), extreme highs and lows of emotions, tempestuous feelings that are sweeping etc.

The push/pull dynamic you speak of is part in parcel of that. Its part of that dynamic and being in a relationship with such a person will have intense emotional reactions from you.

The objective here is actually for emotional closeness and intimacy. But its done in such a way that its self sabotaging as the native runs away from what they really want.

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posted March 19, 2019 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The 7th house solar chart has Venus ruling it. The 8th house ruler is Mars/Pluto.

The ruler of the 8th is in the 7th it "negates" or adds complexities. Infact the ruler of a house in a house before it has a "12th house" effect on the house its in.

1st house ruler in 12th
2nd house ruler in 1st
3rd house ruler of 2nd etc.

I have Venus in Scorpio in 7th. And since Mars/Pluto rules Venus(Scorpio). When in the 7th, its like Mars/Pluto in 7th

I literally have Mars conjunct Dsc, Pluto (Scorpio)in 7th and Venus in 8th is close to the 8th too.

Venus in 8th/Pluto in 7th/Ruler of 8th in 7th/Mars in 7th/Libra on the 8th house cusp/Taurus on the 8th house cusp/Venus rules the 8th/Pluto rules the 7th /Mars rules the 7th/Scorpio in the 7th/Scorpio 29th degree/Venus-Pluto in aspect are similar in effect.

These people are likely to face some sort of tumultuous feelings when it comes to relationships i.e feelings of insecurity, fear of loss of love, fear of intimacy, huge emotional disappointments("death"), extreme highs and lows of emotions, tempestuous feelings that are sweeping etc.

The push/pull dynamic you speak of is part in parcel of that. Its part of that dynamic and being in a relationship with such a person will have intense emotional reactions from you.

The objective here is actually for emotional closeness and intimacy. But its done in such a way that its self sabotaging as the native runs away from what they really want.


Thanks for the insights !

And if Venus is Currently in Aqua too ..
would the native feel this even more during the transit (if they have the aspect natally already)
and might I have more  »tolerance « for that attitude in the transit time if the vibe affects everyone ?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted March 19, 2019 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With transits of Venus and other fast moving planets, I look to them as more cumulative and "additional" then altogether soley "powerful".

In that there are usually progressions, transits of faster moving planets etc. that gettge momentum started. And planets like Venus etc. add to the momentum.

So what you speak of here is a "Venus return"- where the planet transits the natal position by conjunction. And my feelings about that it is likely to amplify the issues in the house that it transits(usually briefly).

But if for instance there was already a progression the 8th, Pluto in 8th etc. then the presence of this transit in 8th gains more zest.

I never notice my Venus return. So perhaps I am ill equipped to provide answers. I would google it. But I guess theoretically it would mean that one becomes more conscious of things of an aesthetic agreeable nature.

When in Aqua, the interest may be renewed in friendships. And when in 8th, this could.suggest wanting to feel more intimacy(8th) but no so much that you feel "crowded".

It could be a time where your friendships turn more intimate or more involving. Or a certain friend starts to be seen with less platonic eyes etc.

The song "Never be the same again" by Mel C (sporty spice) comes to mind. Especially when she says "I thought that we would just be friends(Aqua). But things will never be the same again(8th)" etc.

If transit Uranus comes into aspect with this planet, the seeds of "love" planted when Venus by transit was there would start to grow. Additional aspects would likely add to the effect.

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