posted March 19, 2019 01:16 PM            

Sags complain about how nobody takes responsibility for their actions then looks for someone to blame their ******** on. My dad is a Sag Moon and does this all the time; got finished sanding floors for a friend but forgot to install flush-mount vents. Despite it being his own fault he still goes, "You shouldn't work for your friends because they'll just stab you in the back." Wtf?

posted March 19, 2019 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I find this more abundant in Sag energy than Geminis. Geminis ime just want to shove their opinion down your throat like there's such a thing as a "correct" opinion.

Sags complain about how nobody takes responsibility for their actions then looks for someone to blame their ******** on. My dad is a Sag Moon and does this all the time; got finished sanding floors for a friend but forgot to install flush-mount vents. Despite it being his own fault he still goes, "You shouldn't work for your friends because they'll just stab you in the back." Wtf?

Mutable energy in general is kind of iffy for me.

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posted March 19, 2019 01:51 PM            

I feel that Gemini is a placement that NEEDS duality, by it's nature. I tend to see it as duality in the masculine/feminine energies more than anything. Two sides of is more Libra, at least from my own personal experience and observation.

With Gemini men (especially Gemini Sun), this tends to be that one side is in overabundance, and the other side is left unhealthy, or had unhealthy role models growing up. I've seen a lot of Gemini Men who had one parent be really extreme in their expression (be it masculine or feminine energy) that really skewed or left little room for it to be expressed well in the person.

I find this as well with Gemini Sun WOMEN, but the women have an easier time (usually) bringing the two sides together anyway. I think this may be a societal issue, where men are still statistically categorized into 'masculine only' expression, and the more feminine expression, while more accepted nowadays, still isn't nurtured from a young age. At least, with the current adults. I think those who are children right now are being raised with it and will not be as ridiculously all over the place as the current adults are.

It tends to be, again from what I've seen/experienced, that Gem Men tend to seek out partners who have strong energy in the one they are lacking. They project all over it, as well as tend to take ownership in some way, until it disagrees and they realize it isn't them or what they want. Then they tend to eject.

posted March 19, 2019 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
lmao it's roasting Gemini placements week

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posted March 19, 2019 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
I have a theory.

I feel that Gemini is a placement that NEEDS duality, by it's nature. I tend to see it as duality in the masculine/feminine energies more than anything. Two sides of is more Libra, at least from my own personal experience and observation.

With Gemini men (especially Gemini Sun), this tends to be that one side is in overabundance, and the other side is left unhealthy, or had unhealthy role models growing up. I've seen a lot of Gemini Men who had one parent be really extreme in their expression (be it masculine or feminine energy) that really skewed or left little room for it to be expressed well in the person.

I find this as well with Gemini Sun WOMEN, but the women have an easier time (usually) bringing the two sides together anyway. I think this may be a societal issue, where men are still statistically categorized into 'masculine only' expression, and the more feminine expression, while more accepted nowadays, still isn't nurtured from a young age. At least, with the current adults. I think those who are children right now are being raised with it and will not be as ridiculously all over the place as the current adults are.

It tends to be, again from what I've seen/experienced, that Gem Men tend to seek out partners who have strong energy in the one they are lacking. They project all over it, as well as tend to take ownership in some way, until it disagrees and they realize it isn't them or what they want. Then they tend to eject.

That being said, I'm ending this comment on a note of 'not all Gemini men' lmao. There are ALWAYS exceptions, always a large percentage of men who have either been lucky enough to be raised with healthy acceptance of both types of energy (receptive/responsive) and those who have done the work on their own to become healthier people.

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posted March 19, 2019 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I love your explanation my father is a Gemini Sun and his father was in and out of his life and was abusive. My dad really didn't like him he actually hated him. He held onto things from his childhood against him and never made up with him. But his mother was prominent in his life she raised him. So I wonder if he picked my mother because she reminds him of his father in some way? I don't know if that makes sense. As for my mother both of her parents were in her life. But with both of my parents there was abuse involved in their childhood.

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Were both parents Gemini? My mother is, and she had a very tight relationship with her mother, and a not so much with the father. She does tend to seek out people that (to me) remind me a lot of her dad. Ironically the only one she was with that wasn't like him seemed to be my own dad, but that's another story.

Gemini can be really stubborn about facing the 'other side' as well, because it's usually their more subconscious self. I think Libra has a fairly conscious duality, but with Gem it's like one side is conscious, the other subconscious-- these can switch of course, depending on the environment. I'd say with my dad, my mom's more subconscious side came out and she was more like her own father, versus being like her mother most times.

posted March 19, 2019 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I find this more abundant in Sag energy than Geminis. Geminis ime just want to shove their opinion down your throat like there's such a thing as a "correct" opinion.

Sags complain about how nobody takes responsibility for their actions then looks for someone to blame their ******** on. My dad is a Sag Moon and does this all the time; got finished sanding floors for a friend but forgot to install flush-mount vents. Despite it being his own fault he still goes, "You shouldn't work for your friends because they'll just stab you in the back." Wtf?

Mutable energy in general is kind of iffy for me.

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Yes, I started to doubt if he really has Cappy moon for months ago. I started to doubt whether he told me the truth or not about his birth date. I asked him to show me his birth certificate, he said he couldn't because his Mom kept it.

The first date that he believed his birthday, would make him a Sag moon, which makes sense to me because he will always try to make his friends laugh, making a joke, and he loves watching comedy. I say he is an extrovert but he told me once he is not.

The second date that I found written in our marriage paper, would make him a Cap moon (conjunction Neptune, closer or wider, since I don't have his accurate birth time). He told me it was based on his birth certificate but couldn't make me see the paper. It also makes sense to me because he has this mental victim.

How he always blames me for everything wrong is really making my family, especially my Father, angry to him.

I take the example of our recent problems: he told me that I made a difficult access to meet his daughter that he could sue me. That I made our marriage problem longer than it should be. "How dare you to make a father can not see his daughter? (putting an insult word here and there)" While the truth is I kept sending him an update (photos or videos) of our daughter whenever he asked me and I told him to come visit whenever he wanted to to see our daughter but he REFUSED to come by that he told me, "you come here, why should I?".

He also indirectly told me that I should clean his name and made myself a villain. While the truth is, I left our home because he told me to. I took my two months old daughter with me because he told me to. He didn't even search or ask how were I and my daughter doing for two weeks, until some of his family wanted to see us then he contacted me with a threat and insult.

He told his family that he didn't know I left the house that I run away with our daughter. While the truth is, he was there when I packed my stuff and minutes later he was in a hurry leaving the house.

And so on.

posted March 19, 2019 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Be careful some people might think this is a **** show lol.

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Why?

posted March 19, 2019 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
lmao it's roasting Gemini placements week

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I didn't mean to..

posted March 19, 2019 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
Were both parents Gemini? My mother is, and she had a very tight relationship with her mother, and a not so much with the father. She does tend to seek out people that (to me) remind me a lot of her dad. Ironically the only one she was with that wasn't like him seemed to be my own dad, but that's another story.

Gemini can be really stubborn about facing the 'other side' as well, because it's usually their more subconscious self. I think Libra has a fairly conscious duality, but with Gem it's like one side is conscious, the other subconscious-- these can switch of course, depending on the environment. I'd say with my dad, my mom's more subconscious side came out and she was more like her own father, versus being like her mother most times.

Typically, from a psychological point of view, we seek out people who are similar to our initial relationships (or those that formed us) because they are familiar and our base understanding of what 'love' is, whether it was necessarily healthy or not. With Gemini placements, it's not a one-solid-experience, it's much more all over the place, constantly switching. I would guess there is always an extreme dynamic between the difference in parents, too, that shapes them.

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Makes sense.

His Father is an Aries and his mother is a Scorpio. He is close with his mother than his father, because of past issue. But sometimes I see his parents figure are there with him, especially the negative one.

posted March 19, 2019 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I didn't mean to..

I saw Gemini Mars thread but I don't read it yet. Do you mean, there?

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posted March 19, 2019 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Why?

Sorry, I ask why a lot.

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I called her threads a sh*t show in another thread... Her threads have a distinct quality of there own, lol.

You have to stand firm when dealing when dealing with a Gem male and give it sometime.

After Sometime, the following two conditions may occur:

1) He'll have forgotten about it as he has other things to deal with.

2) Overtime he'll realize he was wrong if you stay firm.

hearttreasure,

Ironically I had an argument with my best Aquarian female friend.

She was so upset that I went on a tirade on her. I was so upset about something else in the back of my mind I didn't even relize. I got trigged and it came out in the wrong form.

But she knows me very well....She hinted maybe something else is wrong in the background that I'm not telling her.

I explained three weeks later that Discrete Math is really driving me nuts and leaving me agitated.

Plus the main thing to is I consider her almost a coach..so I whouldn't be half of were I'm today if not for her, so that also makes me backdown.

So stay firm with a Gem male and if you had past contributions. He should consider that and backdown.

If he doesn't then he is a prick.

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
lmao it's roasting Gemini placements week

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Its just observation, unless you can prove something is true for every case its fact.

Say divide any natural number by 2 and if you get a remainder its odd.

Since this condition holds true for every natural number 0,1,2,..inf its true.

You can't write a proof like that when dealing with Gemini placements and demonstrate that some property holds true in every case.

Hence why Astrology is considered a Pseudoscience not a real science, its observation with some truths that appear true on Monday false on Thursday. When it works awesome, when it fails it sucks.

posted March 19, 2019 04:56 PM            

Actually, I blame Mercury Rx in Pisces squaring all us Gemini suns and mercs... Go ahead, take a shot at me while I'm already stuck in bed with the flu... ugh!

posted March 24, 2019 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I called her threads a sh*t show in another thread... Her threads have a distinct quality of there own, lol.

You have to stand firm when dealing when dealing with a Gem male and give it sometime.

After Sometime, the following two conditions may occur:

1) He'll have forgotten about it as he has other things to deal with.

2) Overtime he'll realize he was wrong if you stay firm.

hearttreasure,

Ironically I had an argument with my best Aquarian female friend.

She was so upset that I went on a tirade on her. I was so upset about something else in the back of my mind I didn't even relize. I got trigged and it came out in the wrong form.

But she knows me very well....She hinted maybe something else is wrong in the background that I'm not telling her.

I explained three weeks later that Discrete Math is really driving me nuts and leaving me agitated.

Plus the main thing to is I consider her almost a coach..so I whouldn't be half of were I'm today if not for her, so that also makes me backdown.

So stay firm with a Gem male and if you had past contributions. He should consider that and backdown.

If he doesn't then he is a prick.

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Oh, I didn't know about it, I don't read Gemini Mars thread yet. 'vebeen off from this forum for awhile..

Can you give me an example of "stay firm"? Do you mean being a stubborn? or how?

It's almost six months we live separately and he doesn't stop insulting me and doesn't want to apologize to my big family for hurting everyone's feeling. I feel hurt really bad that I think about sending him divorce paper. I don't want to, but the way he treats me makes me afraid living in the same house with him.

posted March 24, 2019 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
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Can you give me an example of "stay firm"? Do you mean being a stubborn? or how?

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..more to the story she ignored me for 3 weeks, until I apologized.

She then said jokingly, if you ever do that again I'm going to strangle you.

Cut him out of your life temporarily...if he comes back to apologize then you've gotten through to him...otherwise don't.

posted March 26, 2019 01:09 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
..more to the story she ignored me for 3 weeks, until I apologized.

She then said jokingly, if you ever do that again I'm going to strangle you.

Cut him out of your life temporarily...if he comes back to apologize then you've gotten through to him...otherwise don't.

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I've tried to ignore him but he uses our daughter as a weapon, he once threatened me to make the problem even more complicated as he has a right as a father.

He has not apologize yet, but two months we separated, he cried on the phone asking me to give our relationship another chance (before that I insisted I wanted a divorce). After thinking for few days, I thought to give our relationship another chance, so I talked to my parents and my Father told me that he should talk to my parents to make a promise that he would take care of me and my daughter as what a good husband would do. I agreed as one (of many) reason why I didn't think twice to leave him was because whenever we had big argument, he physically attacked me (and of course I am concerned with my daughter's healthy development in the future if we as a parent aren't healthy to each other).

I talked to him that I wanted to give another chance but he should talk to my parents as they were so worried if I and my daughter were back at home with him. At first he refused it as he thought my big family was a reason why I left him (he was in denial of his actions). Two months after that, he finally told me that he agreed, but then he changed his mind because his parents didn't approve it as they believed "wife must submit to her husband". Even when I talked to his parents that my parents was concerned about me and my daughter safety and there had been abused in our household, his parents told me, "that's normal". I was totally in shocked.

Do you think when he cries it means an apology? I kind of confused with him, when I am away he wants me, when I am here with him he pushes me.

How Gem male shows an apology? Through words? Or just moving on?

posted March 26, 2019 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I've tried to ignore him but he uses our daughter as a weapon, he once threatened me to make the problem even more complicated as he has a right as a father.

He has not apologize yet, but two months we separated, he cried on the phone asking me to give our relationship another chance (before that I insisted I wanted a divorce). After thinking for few days, I thought to give our relationship another chance, so I talked to my parents and my Father told me that he should talk to my parents to make a promise that he would take care of me and my daughter as what a good husband would do. I agreed as one (of many) reason why I didn't think twice to leave him was because whenever we had big argument, he physically attacked me (and of course I am concerned with my daughter's healthy development in the future if we as a parent aren't healthy to each other).

I talked to him that I wanted to give another chance but he should talk to my parents as they were so worried if I and my daughter were back at home with him. At first he refused it as he thought my big family was a reason why I left him (he was in denial of his actions). Two months after that, he finally told me that he agreed, but then he changed his mind because his parents didn't approve it as they believed "wife must submit to her husband". Even when I talked to his parents that my parents was concerned about me and my daughter safety and there had been abused in our household, his parents told me, "that's normal". I was totally in shocked.

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He sounds like an emotionally broken down man.

You have to be careful with dealing with him.

The thing with Gemini men is they always position themselves to win in either circumstance.

For example I use to get lots of parking tickets... I seldom drive anymore, I live in downtown and everything is in walking distance now.

Anyway when ever we get a parking ticket here we have three options:
1) Pay the set fine.
2) Go To Court.
3) Plead Guilty with an explanation.

I normally choose option 2) Go To Court.
Why? If I win the case, great I don't have to pay the fine.

If I loose so what..I took the parking enforcement officer off the street.

During the time he was at court for my ticket I took him/her off the street for a couple hours and he/she was unable to issue 10 tickets.

Convict my one ticket but loose out on issuing 10 tickets.

Thats why..when you dealing with him you have to make it so your Gem has no room to run.

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:

How Gem male shows an apology? Through words? Or just moving on?

Sorry, I ask a lot. trying to understand.

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With my Aquarius friend its different, her Cancer male guy is useless. I literately re-tiled her flooring and painted her house for her, no charge for labor just material.

I might rebuild her cottage as it just needs to be reframed, its less then 800 square feet so doesn't need a lot of studs.

If you see a Gemini male take the time to do something extra for you or someone..were versatile enough to do almost anything then you know were being genuine.

Your Gem comes off alittle too sneaky or always trying to hedge himself so the situation favors him.

If you ever see a gem male do that run!!!.

I think Gemini and Aquarious can get along when they see each other as co partners.

But being a fixed sign the Aquarious should be the one in charge.

Being the mutable sign Gemini should be the one that can find adaptable solutions when things don't work out.

Plus she always hints she has a lot of faith in me and pushes me in the right direction...so again I see her more of a coach.

Off topic You mentioned you work in Computer Science hearttresure?. I gather you must be really good at writing math proofs. Thats why I'm a little cranky..writing Algorithms and the corresponding correctness proofs are tough. Any helpful hints?

For the engineers its like applied math, just find the correct formula to solve your problem. With Comp you need to write a formal proof to prove your algorithm, its harder to prove something then it is to learn how to use it.

posted March 26, 2019 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
He sounds like an emotionally broken down man.

You have to be careful with dealing with him.

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Yeah, I thought so.

I've tried digging more into him, but he is just so confusing and driving people nuts. He doesn't let anyone to know who he really is, so he plays mind games often or he takes other people's personality, which is so obvious to me as it reminds me of certain person in his life whether it's his exes, friends, or family members, or even me.

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
The thing with Gemini men is they always position themselves to win in either circumstance.

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Thats why..when you dealing with him you have to make it so your Gem has no room to run.

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Yes, I see his moves. That's why I think he is really smart. For me, he is predictable and I think it makes him hooked that he finds an equal players, someone who can always caught him in a good or bad way.

Surprisingly, he also knows me pretty well, I mean, he knows which button to get into an emotional attack, the button to hurt me pretty bad emotionally. Too bad, that makes me reduce my respect and my trust, and emotionally distancing myself even more.

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
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If you see a Gemini male take the time to do something extra for you or someone..were versatile enough to do almost anything then you know were being genuine.

Your Gem comes off alittle too sneaky or always trying to hedge himself so the situation favors him.

If you ever see a gem male do that run!!!.

I think Gemini and Aquarious can get along when they see each other as co partners.

But being a fixed sign the Aquarious should be the one in charge.

Being the mutable sign Gemini should be the one that can find adaptable solutions when things don't work out.

Plus she always hints she has a lot of faith in me and pushes me in the right direction...so again I see her more of a coach.

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Oh, yeah, I see it often. He always tries doing a favor after an argument/fight/break-up. So, it means that he tries to express his apology and want us to be in a good term?

He is a little bit sneaky, it's bothered me actually. I've tried to run in the past, but he always chased me, and, ugh, I admit, he is pretty smart using the right words to get me back, now we're stuck with each other with one kid.

Yes, co-partners, I and my Gem actually act like that in our relationship. We're flexible in our role, but most of the time it's a reverse, he wants to take a charge and I usually find the solutions. He can be too much stubborn than me. We have been worked together for some times and we're very helpful for each other, but with some arguments of course.

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Off topic You mentioned you work in Computer Science hearttresure?. I gather you must be really good at writing math proofs. Thats why I'm a little cranky..writing Algorithms and the corresponding correctness proofs are tough. Any helpful hints?

For the engineers its like applied math, just find the correct formula to solve your problem. With Comp you need to write a formal proof to prove your algorithm, its harder to prove something then it is to learn how to use it.

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Yes, I was. I am in a politic area now (a.k.a dealing with board directors), thinking running my own business.

Writing Algorithms and the corresponding correctness proofs are sure tough. I understand. I think you need to develop patience and persistence. I have Aries moon too, you might be surprised knowing that I have a lot of patience to finish my work without being cranky. I am. Not trying to brag, but I always get attention from my bosses and quickly get a good position/promotion at work (and also attract a lot of jealousy ). You may not realize I have Aries moon as you won't see impatient, impulsivity, temper, aggressiveness, etc, when dealing with me.