posted March 23, 2019 02:08 AM            

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posted March 23, 2019 08:10 PM            

It seems different when its a mars is retro conjunct moon though..

HOW a mars-moon conj manifests are an other story of course and its due to many other factors in the chart, personality etc

posted March 23, 2019 08:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
no aspects manifest like aspects, in the case of mars-moon they connect drive to emotion

i have an aries moon square mars (with a **** load of other aspects attached to it) and it's not more aries for it

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posted March 23, 2019 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Do you think because you have a heavy aspected moon it’s clouds or overpowers your Aries moon? Like it acts differently than an Aries moon? Which aspect do you think effects your moon the most?

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it's hard for me to really say

it being 7th house conjunct my descendant and opposite venus is definitely noticeable but so is the cap mars square and the uranus and mercury trines (that whole kite on my ascendant/descendant axis really) and i can see the sextile to chiron too

the selfishness that can manifest with an aries moon is definitely toned down, i tend to see what i want or feel as less important because i feel like i should be able to control and move past my feelings, and i don't care for them causing friction at the same time i'm generally detached from what i feel and tend to write it off etc and so on, but other people's feelings can **** with me and i can usually feel them better than i can my own

when i was younger before i was able to really sort it put i'd just react to other people with their own feelings rather than my own unconsciously, it took a lot to separate myself from them like that and not do that

i'd be angry or sad or whatever in a moment and react that way just because someone else was even though i was apathetic about whatever and when i'd walk away from them i'd be able to separate myself whereas now i can usually say "thats them not me" and avoid it altogether

posted March 23, 2019 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
it's hard for me to really say

it being 7th house conjunct my descendant and opposite venus is definitely noticeable but so is the cap mars square and the uranus and mercury trines (that whole kite on my ascendant/descendant axis really) and i can see the sextile to chiron too

the selfishness that can manifest with an aries moon is definitely toned down, i tend to see what i want or feel as less important because i feel like i should be able to control and move past my feelings, and i don't care for them causing friction at the same time i'm generally detached from what i feel and tend to write it off etc and so on, but other people's feelings can **** with me and i can usually feel them better than i can my own

when i was younger before i was able to really sort it put i'd just react to other people with their own feelings rather than my own unconsciously, it took a lot to separate myself from them like that and not do that

i'd be angry or sad or whatever in a moment and react that way just because someone else was even though i was apathetic about whatever and when i'd walk away from them i'd be able to separate myself whereas now i can usually say "thats them not me" and avoid it altogether

i am childish and immature though won't lie lol

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Wow that’s good though you recognized that you were feeling others emotions and not yours. I wonder what makes you feel others emotions so easily? Any Neptune? Maybe it’s the Chiron aspect?

posted March 23, 2019 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Wow that’s good though you recognized that you were feeling others emotions and not yours. I wonder what makes you feel others emotions so easily? Any Neptune? Maybe it’s the Chiron aspect?

I can be childish and immature too lol not sure if it’s the mars square moon aspect because it’s the tightest aspect in my chart and a Leo moon so can also be sulky haha

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neptune is trine my sun, sextile my pluto (minor trine with my sun which is also sextile pluto) and loosely conjunct my mars but that's it

posted March 24, 2019 04:12 AM            

I don't identify with Aries Moon descriptions, but I do identify with Moon conjunct Mars descriptions (which is what I have). I also have Venus square Mars and Mercury square Mars, and I identify with those descriptions as well.

I have plenty of friends with Aries Sun and Moon, but we operate from a completely different place, emotionally. Moon-Mars is constantly on the defense, IMO. Eyes wide open, all the time, looking for an attack, kind of aspect.

I like this description best for Moon-Mars aspects:

posted March 24, 2019 04:24 AM            

Since the Moon describes how we were when we were children, with your Moon sign in aspect to Mars, you were always ready for a fight when you were a kid. From the beginning, your instinct has been to push back whenever you’re pushed. Therefore, Moon-Mars children often have little to no problem handling themselves with siblings, classmates, friends, and even adults! You were a tough little cookie and this was something that was reinforced within you by your nurturing figure, which is what the Moon represents. With a Moon-Mars aspect, your maternal parent supported you through strength and passion, urging you to get out there and show ‘em what you got!

posted March 24, 2019 06:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

when i was younger before i was able to really sort it put i'd just react to other people with their own feelings rather than my own unconsciously, it took a lot to separate myself from them like that and not do that

i'd be angry or sad or whatever in a moment and react that way just because someone else was even though i was apathetic about whatever and when i'd walk away from them i'd be able to separate myself whereas now i can usually say "thats them not me" and avoid it altogether

i am childish and immature though won't lie lol

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I'm surprised you don't have more Neptune influence in your chart.
I used to absorb other people's feelings when I was younger but then grew boundaries, because screw that, why would I have to carry other people's c r a p. But I do have strong Neptune influence in my chart.
I wonder if any asteroids are at work in your chart who made you so sensitive to other people's feelings

posted March 24, 2019 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
I'm surprised you don't have more Neptune influence in your chart.
I used to absorb other people's feelings when I was younger but then grew boundaries, because screw that, why would I have to carry other people's c r a p. But I do have strong Neptune influence in my chart.
I wonder if any asteroids are at work in your chart who made you so sensitive to other people's feelings

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what's funny is no one looking at my draconic or sidereal chart would be particularly surprised by the sensitivity

see the difference? vedic astrologers pick up on it right away too with the addition of whole sign

i'm still pretty bad with boundaries, and it's not that i carry other people's problems though it's that i can feel them and not distinguish them while i'm near the person (and i know i'm good at it because whenever i've commented on it i've been right) or rather i couldn't distinguish them, but i can now i just still feel them and know exactly who they're coming off of etc

when i'm not near them they're gone, and i don't necessarily care, but if i'm there and the other person is too then it'll happen

it's led to regrettable sex with people i wasn't into among other things

posted March 24, 2019 09:07 AM            

Those with the conjunction has been more plutonic then those with sun in scorpio with no pluto contact. And this I have seen in many other configurations, uranus conjunctins, neptune etc, but we already know a planet conjunct an other planet is "more potent" so I don't need to repeat it all

posted March 24, 2019 10:43 AM            

I never paid attention to draconics before I came to this forum but I do think that they definitely have an influence, for sure. And your draconic/sidereal chart definitely explains a lot of what you say about yourself and how you experience stuff. I feel Venus in Virgo is not always necessarily picky, but many times they have high standards in a partner and they are not going to compromise too much on that. But of course it always depends on the whole chart

posted March 24, 2019 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
@dumuzi

I never paid attention to draconics before I came to this forum but I do think that they definitely have an influence, for sure. And your draconic/sidereal chart definitely explains a lot of what you say about yourself and how you experience stuff. I feel Venus in Virgo is not always necessarily picky, but many times they have high standards in a partner and they are not going to compromise too much on that. But of course it always depends on the whole chart

Question: how come your sidereal and your draconic chart look almost the same?
Mine look very different from each other.

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i don't really care if someone fits any kind of ideal as long as i feel a connection and i'll compromise a lot for a deep connection relationship wise

just sex i tend to care less then it's honestly been a matter of "do you find me attractive and feel like it enough to say something? ok" and just be someone i can have a couple drinks with or something

my north node is already almost at 0 degrees aries, so nothing moves all that much

posted March 24, 2019 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i don't really care if someone fits any kind of ideal as long as i feel a connection and i'll compromise a lot for a deep connection relationship wise

just sex i tend to care less then it's honestly been a matter of "do you find me attractive and feel like it enough to say something? ok" and just be someone i can have a couple drinks with or something

my north node is already almost at 0 degrees aries, so nothing moves all that much

i was really surprised when i saw how different draco charts could be because i was used to my own and my fiancee's (which is also basically her sidereal since her north node is exact on my descendant) i only found put recently everything moves based on how many degrees the north node needs to move to 0 degrees aries

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posted March 24, 2019 06:03 PM            

np, somewhere here explained it to me somewhat recently lol dont remember who though but it was in a draco thread

i dont identify with all my tropical either so i dont expect to identify with all of anything but i do identify more with vedic placements (but i think outer planets and degrees do make a difference and add depth) than anything, it's just not convenient to use them here when it's easier to be on the same page as everyone else

my cap mars is probably what i identify with the least in tropical though

i actually dont automatically assume cancer moons love children, would've never occurred to me to

i tend to think of them as being sensitive and guarded and maybe nurturing in a sense but that doesnt always translate into kids that could be adults in their life friends or siblings or parents etc i do tend to think of them and taurus moons as emotional eaters though

i like kids, not taking care of them but the fun parts like how blunt they are and how much that can catch people off guard and **** like that and i can enjoy running around with my niece but i can also find them mind numbing when theyre boring

i prefer kids with adhd usually, they're my favorite, usually funny as hell and creative

but yeah i dont necessarily associate being nurturing with liking kids, i guess it makes sense that most people do come to think of it though lol

posted March 24, 2019 06:55 PM            

Yeah I get you. I dont think, because my moon is trine Mars (which it is) that it has Aries qualities. I would interpret it as my emotions (moon) and my actions (mars) being in a harmonious relationship.
As for moon in Cancer: Sensitive, yes definitely. Nurturing to others...to a certain extent, but I don't like it when others rely on me too much. I don't need to be needed and that is something that I read about moon in Cancer numerous times (that we need to be needed). Guarded, yes I'd say so.
My moon is in the 1st so I'm mostly nurturing to myself haha but I do like to listen and help when my friends/family are in trouble.

But yeah I definitely used to be an emotional eater in my childhood. The lack of love and understanding from parents was compensated with food and I can remember the times when I just couldn't say no to food, although I wasn't hungry, because that feeling of enjoying food was so comforting and really filling a void. I sorted that issue out though, gladly...

posted March 27, 2019 08:09 AM            

first house moon definitely makes a difference yeah, every 1st house moon i've met seems to find it impossible to control or hide the way they express their feelings on one level or another

cancer placements and eating their feelings is nearly always a thing so i'm not surprised you've had a past issue with it

comfort food is a big thing with cancer,whereas a sign like taurus overindulging isn't necessarily from a comfort standpoint more a need to indulge

i imagine it's because enjoying things about kids isn't the same as actually enjoying having to care for them or be around them for extended periods of time and deal with them doing things like not listening and whining

edit: btw i agree with what you said about moon trine mars, i think that's how this sort of thing is expressed rather than it seeming like another sign

i just find it odd that people (not you) only ever mention that energy flow in one direction depending on which planet theyre focusing on even though both planets are being colored by each other and the energy between them is wrapped up together

posted March 27, 2019 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
@kani

first house moon definitely makes a difference yeah, every 1st house moon i've met seems to find it impossible to control or hide the way they express their feelings on one level or another

cancer placements and eating their feelings is nearly always a thing so i'm not surprised you've had a past issue with it

comfort food is a big thing with cancer,whereas a sign like taurus overindulging isn't necessarily from a comfort standpoint more a need to indulge

i imagine it's because enjoying things about kids isn't the same as actually enjoying having to care for them or be around them for extended periods of time and deal with them doing things like not listening and whining

edit: btw i agree with what you said about moon trine mars, i think that's how this sort of thing is expressed rather than it seeming like another sign

i just find it odd that people (not you) only ever mention that energy flow in one direction depending on which planet theyre focusing on even though both planets are being colored by each other and the energy between them is wrapped up together

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Yes, food definitely did have the function of an emotional crutch, if you get me. I think that's a good word for it. I still enjoy food, but it's on a much healthier level of course. My boyfriend tends to overindulge but he is a Taurus sun and I have seen that so often with them ...