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mercuryflow
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posted April 05, 2019 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it a Sag Moon thing to be super moody?

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posted April 05, 2019 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aamhz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup. I think only a Saturn conjunction or trine or hard aspect from Neptune can make Sag Moon redeemed. Otherwise, I'm in favor of Sag Moon genocide.

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posted April 05, 2019 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercuryflow..
Transiting Jupiter is in Sagittarius.
And there IS 'grumpy-making' T-Square going on. Sun in mid Aries now adding energies to your Moon, and the Sun is in a square to Saturn Capr, and Pluto Capr.

Transiting Mars is in Gemini now.. in opposition to your Moon.

Hang in there.. Self Care. {{ }}
Try to find ways to redirect your fire energy into things like housework, yard work, using your Creativity, plan your next party.
(humor) Find a way to go on an Adventure Quest to Take over the World. {cartoon, Pinky and The Brain}.


(music) Pinky and The Brain (cartoon's opening theme) [1:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBkT19uH2RQ

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Hope you feel better soon...

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posted April 05, 2019 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my older brother has a sag moon and is like that, but my ex fwbs was just self centered without all the other ****

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posted April 05, 2019 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Mercuryflow..
Transiting Jupiter is in Sagittarius.
And there IS 'grumpy-making' T-Square going on. Sun in mid Aries now adding energies to your Moon, and the Sun is in a square to Saturn Capr, and Pluto Capr.

Transiting Mars is in Gemini now.. in opposition to your Moon.

Hang in there.. Self Care. {{ }}
Try to find ways to redirect your fire energy into things like housework, yard work, using your Creativity, plan your next party.
(humor) Find a way to go on an Adventure Quest to Take over the World. {cartoon, Pinky and The Brain}.


(music) Pinky and The Brain (cartoon's opening theme) [1:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBkT19uH2RQ

Are you good at History?
(topic) A Meticulous Analysis of History (Pinky and the Brain) [4:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9aYrURLHh0

Hope you feel better soon...


Hi Mirage!
It's not my moon.

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posted April 05, 2019 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aamhz:
Yup. I think only a Saturn conjunction or trine or hard aspect from Neptune can make Sag Moon redeemed. Otherwise, I'm in favor of Sag Moon genocide.

LOL!
It's rather tiring! And I feel well aquainted with Sag energy, having some planets there, and my father was Sag sun, and it seems like they should have some sort of cheerful, benevolent, Jupiterian nature.... but damn, so snappy!

And it's weird because sometimes that Jupiterian energy is there, and this person will pride themselves in being like that, carefree, and that's why I say blindly so, because he doesn't even realize he's been such a moody grump!

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posted April 05, 2019 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my older brother has a sag moon and is like that, but my ex fwbs was just self centered without all the other ****

It just seems so weird to me!

And I do know another sag moon and she is like your ex, just self-centered, and a little too emotionally void.

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posted April 05, 2019 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This person's moon is in tight opposition to the ASC, and loose opposition to mercury.
Does that create and enhance this tendency?

Would it be more noticed in the home/family as it is the moon? And less seen when out in public/social situations?

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posted April 05, 2019 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit edit edit

Lol

..when your charts are
mastering you..instead of
you Mastering your chart!

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posted April 05, 2019 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuryflow:
It just seems so weird to me!

And I do know another sag moon and she is like your ex, just self-centered, and a little too emotionally void.


he is fairly emotionally void too, has a lot in aquarius and cap so that probably doesnt help (for whatever reason everyone i've ever had sex with has only been born in december or january, just keeps happening lol only sag cap or aquarius suns) but also leo ascendant which doesnt help with the self centeredness

it's odd because my fiancee is a sag sun, her siblings both were + my younger brother and others i've known (family and friends) and none of them are self centered in that same way it seems to be more about it being the moon that does it

i cant remember any of my older brother's moon aspects but my ex fwbs has moon conjunct pluto which probably did make him moody but i never saw that side of him

he was always sort of on guard with me in particular moreso than most people, i'm not sure why

what other **** does the sag moon you mention have going on? im curious because your first post described my older brother completely lol also i'm curious in sidereal does their moon shift to scorpio

regardless of anything else nakshatras nearly always work and my brother is anuradha so is my ex fwbs

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posted April 05, 2019 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:

what other **** does the sag moon you mention have going on? im curious because your first post described my older brother completely lol also i'm curious in sidereal does their moon shift to scorpio

regardless of anything else nakshatras nearly always work and my brother is anuradha so is my ex fwbs


his moon is tightly opposing his ASC, in the 6th house, and loosely opposes his mercury.
It's so weird how he can't 'own' his moods either, he prides himself in being jovial and lighthearted, but isn't that a good portion of time, and doesn't even realize he's being a moody jerk! when called out on it, he's raging defensive!
I don't know much about vedic astrology, but this person's moon would go to scorpio in sideral because it's just in the first couple degrees of sag.

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posted April 06, 2019 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder why he's being a
moody jerk?

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posted April 06, 2019 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ballerina:
I wonder why he's being a
moody jerk?


not sure if you are implying it's because of me?

or just genuinely wondering? lol.

either way, i truly feel this moodiness is out of proportion to the daily comings and goings, and a strange occurence for jupiterian moon placement.

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posted April 06, 2019 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The feeling I'm getting
is that he feels people
are deceiving him, playing
Mind vuck games, I get
the sense of them being
bewildered with human
Behavior...

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posted April 06, 2019 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ballerina:
The feeling I'm getting
is that he feels people
are deceiving him, playing
Mind vuck games, I get
the sense of them being
bewildered with human
Behavior...


he doesnt have anyone in his life playing mindvuck games and i dont think he feels or thinks that at all. in work, family or social aeas.


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posted April 06, 2019 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
..that is the feeling I got,
maybe some communication is
needed...

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posted April 06, 2019 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuryflow:
Is it a Sag Moon thing to be super moody? grumpy, defensive, really self-centered? like blindly so?
Or what could be happening to Sag Moon to make the person behave like this? Like what aspects?

It seems like it shouldn't be so. That they wouldn't be defensive, more happy-go-lucky.


Yes, this is normal Sag Moon behavior.

I have been with many Sag Moons in my life, and they get this way when they are bothered. Sag Moon has a tendency to run away from dealing with dark emotions and often they will take it out on you in passive-aggressive ways instead. It's more so the unevolved ones. They're not as direct as you would expect them to be.

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posted April 06, 2019 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Yes, this is normal Sag Moon behavior.

I have been with many Sag Moons in my life, and they get this way when they are bothered. Sag Moon has a tendency to run away from dealing with dark emotions and often they will take it out on you in passive-aggressive ways instead. It's more so the unevolved ones. They're not as direct as you would expect them to be.



You just described my sister who has a Sag moon and she is exactly like that. She is the moodiest and grumpiest out of all us three sisters and me and the other sis both have water moons, so you wouldn't expect that. She also can be very self centered as well

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posted April 06, 2019 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuryflow:
his moon is tightly opposing his ASC, in the 6th house, and loosely opposes his mercury.
It's so weird how he can't 'own' his moods either, he prides himself in being jovial and lighthearted, but isn't that a good portion of time, and doesn't even realize he's being a moody jerk! when called out on it, he's raging defensive!
I don't know much about vedic astrology, but this person's moon would go to scorpio in sideral because it's just in the first couple degrees of sag.

i have that same aspect, and i wouldn't blame it lol i can be a dick but i'll admit it and apologize work **** out etc

people typically comment on me being extremely laid back, and generally i am but not always

vedic is as accurate as any other system, and the nakshatras (lunar mansions, each sign has 3) work well to a point where people i've met who dislike vedic for the most part still feel like nakshatras are worthwhile

which is why i'm not surprised he's a sag whose **** gets set back to scorpio, and if it's very early degrees it's likely it ends up in anuradha (both sag moons i mentioned are the same)

my older brother is really defensive and reactive, but honestly sag suns i've known can be that way too so that seems to be a sag thing

a good deal of sags have an "always right" mentality and the moons can be worse with it, my brother throws these insane tantrums over the slightest provocation (and escalates quickly to threats of physical violence at the very least) but doesnt actually need to be provoked anyway he also likes starting **** with people

his ascendant is late degree aquarius so if i remember right his moon is either 11th or 10th i'd have to look

ex fwbs is moody too but he hasnt directed it at me, he's just done **** like come over drunk yelling about being angry at the world and **** and wanting to fight someone

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posted April 06, 2019 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:

You just described my sister who has a Sag moon and she is exactly like that. She is the moodiest and grumpiest out of all us three sisters and me and the other sis both have water moons, so you wouldn't expect that. She also can be very self centered as well

my older brother is the moodiest and grumpiest out of 3 fire moons (mine is aries, younger brother is leo), so that's just fitting for sag moons

all of us lack personal water planets and my older brother also doesn't have any in earth signs

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posted April 06, 2019 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my older brother is the moodiest and grumpiest out of 3 fire moons (mine is aries, younger brother is leo), so that's just fitting for sag moons

all of us lack personal water planets and my older brother also doesn't have any in earth signs


What is your leo moon brother like? I know a couple of Leo moons and I wanna find out if he fits my experience with them?

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posted April 06, 2019 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
What is your leo moon brother like? I know a couple of Leo moons and I wanna find out if he fits my experience with them?

he's cool he tends to be in a good mood and hates fighting but he can be a little full of himself at times though it's not actual arrogance

he's too approval seeking for that, he likes being told he's appreciated and did good and he needs that kind of thing and goes out of his way to get it

he can be a lot of fun though too, and that same quality can actually be a good thing because holy **** it's so easy to convince him to do dumb **** if you just dare him or tell him he can't etc

it's great

a good deal of our childhood and adulthood has been me saying "hey i bet you can't/won't do (insert something here)" and him going for it and he likes to do dumb **** for attention too so he can be really ridiculous he has the clownish sag sun thing going on with the leo moon so it can be an amusing combination

he's also capable of actually talking but moreso about ideas and stuff and sometimes one of us will make a suicide joke or something if we're depressed (he does struggle with depression, but he can write it off with jokes a lot the way i can tend to)

he tells me **** but neither of us are very good at talking about feelings in any depth with each other, so it'll be a serious sentence or two followed by needing to break the ice with jokes and then happier distractions

he does do a lot of good **** , but sometimes it can come off like it's partially because he wants people to see that he's done good **** and praise him, he's very praise driven sometimes to a point of detriment because he's not always good with standing up for himself as a result (he's always been very obedient with authority figures even when they've been stupid, or he'll rebel in less obvious ways though he's gotten a little better with that as he's gotten older; i've also had way more issues with authority than him and tend towards rebellion so my perspective might be skewed here)

he has a lot of issues behind closed doors though, and i only know the extent to some of them because his ex told me and my fiancee about it

we all hide **** from each other though so i'm not going to necessarily blame his moon for that

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posted April 06, 2019 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
he's cool he tends to be in a good mood and hates fighting but he can be a little full of himself at times though it's not actual arrogance

he's too approval seeking for that, he likes being told he's appreciated and did good and he needs that kind of thing and goes out of his way to get it

he can be a lot of fun though too, and that same quality can actually be a good thing because holy **** it's so easy to convince him to do dumb **** if you just dare him or tell him he can't etc

it's great

a good deal of our childhood and adulthood has been me saying "hey i bet you can't/won't do (insert something here)" and him going for it and he likes to do dumb **** for attention too so he can be really ridiculous he has the clownish sag sun thing going on with the leo moon so it can be an amusing combination

he's also capable of actually talking but moreso about ideas and stuff and sometimes one of us will make a suicide joke or something if we're depressed (he does struggle with depression, but he can write it off with jokes a lot the way i can tend to)

he tells me **** but neither of us are very good at talking about feelings in any depth with each other, so it'll be a serious sentence or two followed by needing to break the ice with jokes and then happier distractions

he does do a lot of good **** , but sometimes it can come off like it's partially because he wants people to see that he's done good **** and praise him, he's very praise driven sometimes to a point of detriment because he's not always good with standing up for himself as a result (he's always been very obedient with authority figures even when they've been stupid, or he'll rebel in less obvious ways though he's gotten a little better with that as he's gotten older; i've also had way more issues with authority than him and tend towards rebellion so my perspective might be skewed here)

he has a lot of issues behind closed doors though, and i only know the extent to some of them because his ex told me and my fiancee about it

we all hide **** from each other though so i'm not going to necessarily blame his moon for that


Thanks dumuzi. That's interesting. I wonder if there are differences in how a female Leo moon behaves in comparison to a male leo moon. Not necessarily because of biological differences but rather societal expectations. The leo moons I know are all female and what they have in common is strong self centeredness (the suns are Cap, Cancer and Virgo). It's about them in the first place and the Cap sun, leo moon friend ALWAYS needed to be in the centre of attention when she was in the midst of a group of friends. She also used to hate when someone "stole" her friends like she would say. Like, a friend would befriend another friend of hers and do stuff without her. She would hate that (but she did it to others and didn't see a problem).
So what you describe with your brother and your ability to make him do stuff because he felt the need to prove himself wasn't that prevalent in the leo moons I know.

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posted April 06, 2019 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, so interesting that this is common for sag moons. i guess the fire comes out in reactive snappy ways. the self-centered part is annoying too, throws in an 'i'm entitled to act this way' kinda vibe.

the experiences ive had with sag suns are much more jupiterian. haven't really seen anger out of them. especially over little things.


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posted April 06, 2019 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@kani

my brother does like to be the center of attention, that's part of why that works on him but socialization would definitely alter expression with leo moon i would imagine due to the attention seeking (and it's usually a need for it to be positive)

my brother frequently goes for laughs when he wants attention which is less typical for women which is another reason that works on him

i dont know how he is about people getting close to his friends and **** like that though because i only have that sibling experience of him and i've met his friends but they've always been his friends not mine though because we're 4 years apart there's been overlap where i've hung out with people he's sort of known or knew of and vice versa but he's never been heavy into drugs the way i have so different crowds ultimately

and there's been huge spans of time where we've lived in different states (on/off since i was 19) so we dont spend much time together, and when we do it's usually just us and my fiancee + his gf when he has one or it's a holiday

we text every few days mostly, so i wouldnt know how he is in situations like what you describe

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