posted April 06, 2019 08:34 AM            

This person also put her/his happiness in someone else, so when other can't bring her/his a happiness, she/he starts getting bitter and blames people for making her/him unhappy. Always has a high expectations to other people then get disappointed when people don't deliver her/his expectations. She/he will show the attitude that you are the source of her/his unhappiness and will obviously treat you differently from people who give her/him what she/he expects but strangely enough she/he won't throw you out unless you really disappear from their life.

When in argument with her/him if you stay quiet she/he will keep bulldozing you to the point it sounds abusing, but if you fight she/he will turn to act like a victim.

People who always give her/him what she/he wants without she/he is telling you, she/he will protect you even when you are wrong.

People who do not always give her/him what she/he wants, she/he will always fight you and blame you for everything wrong even when it wasn't your fault (it could be the fault of people that she/he protects but still it's your fault and they will find a way to claim that it's your fault).

What's probably her/his moon?
Do you think she/he has moon/Mars hard aspect?

posted April 06, 2019 06:52 PM            

However, many signs, operating from their shadow can be like this, for differing reasons.

Some possibilities:

Cancers. They can take offense easily and "crab out" (snip snip). If anything in cancer is badly aspected it can make a person extremely volatile and moody in general. Their need for emotional safety is important, and if they project their fears or discomforts on others, then yes, they'll feel attacked and find reason to lash out.

The part about "protecting even when wrong" did give me a sense that this could be a Cancer thing.

Virgo, if highly insecure, will always find fault with others, how they are not behaving "perfectly" according to their unspoken rules. Extreme need to be right, so, will see others as the imperfect problems.

Aries, though imo, not as intense, can be this way, too. But, because Aries is the first sign, like the "kid" of the zodiac, they'll tend to have a hard time taking responsibility for their own part, and want their own needs met.

I wouldn't say Taurus, they're not so brazen or emotionally expressive so often. They've really gotta be pushed and it takes a lot. Often they can be stoic. This doesn't really sound like an Earthy person. Even the Virgo I mentioned is a long shot because even if they feel like that, again, it'll be calmer and they probably won't fess up to much of what they're thinking all that often. Their anger/upset also isn't that intimidating.
I also can't see Scorpio again, being so brazen, though, someone Plutonic might be likely.

Something in the descendant perhaps (other people).

IC/4th house activity can make a person's energy more focused on their own internal world.

posted April 07, 2019 05:38 AM            

Shes Cancer ascendant, 4th house stellium in Leo, yes we live far up north, including mars and sun.

posted April 07, 2019 02:17 PM            

Whenever someone tries to tell this person maybe it's not always 100% other people's fault that there's two sides of a coin and she/he will respond: "SO YOU BLAME ME?! THIS IS ALL MY FAULT?" then she/he starts a self-pitying preach, sometimes tears following. She/he always feels right, never feels wrong. Surprisingly, this person is also religious, she/he holds religion dearly. Very conservative & cynical to people who live at today's world. Believing in old ways, and having a hard time to implementing new ways. Very stubborn.

When you have a problem, she/he will take you to her/his nest to protect you but later at her/his nest, she/he complaints that you make her/his life difficult (she/he makes you feels like a burden), expecting you to bow down because you have invited to her/his nest, unless you give what she/he wants. When you ask what they want, they act like "if you love me, you have already know what I want" a.k.a I'm not going to tell you, guess it and hopefully it's true, or not, (screaming like an angry child) I hate you!

posted April 07, 2019 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:

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Something in the descendant perhaps (other people).

IC/4th house activity can make a person's energy more focused on their own internal world.

Is there a way to get this individual's chart??

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I don't know the birth time..

You are right that this person has Cancer in personal planet.

what are the prominent features of Virgo ASC people?

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I hope the person in question isn't your husband?

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When I reread what I have written, it does sound like my husband a lil bit hahahahahahaha

No, it's not him.

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Originally posted by vertiver:
Sounds like my sister. She is a Pisces Sun w/ Aries Moon and Pisces ASC. She calls you out on things, has no accountability for herself, plays victim, and you're always the bad guy. Also everything revolves around her. I guess this is kinda harsh, she can be a really fun person, but hold grudges as well, she also have Cancer Mars.

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Yes, it's kinda harsh, sorry, I didn't mean to. I'm just realizing how negative she/he is now. She/he sounds very abusive. I am shocked.

Does her moon make a square to her mars? Can you tell me what degrees are her Aries moon and Cancer mars?

You are right. This person has Mars in Cancer too.

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Originally posted by PiscesVenus:
My ex is like this. He has Cancer Sun,Mars,Mercury in his 11th house. Mars/mrcury are in tight conjunction and they conjunct sun in 7 orb. Dispositor pisces moon in 8th and bad aspected. Saturn/Pluto 150 to Moon. Venus 150 to Moon. Mrs/mercury - neptun squares moon.

He is 35 and never takes responsility on a topic. I was the responsible one for anything and I was obliged to make feel him happy. Even a stone would fall onto his head there, where he is, (we live now in different countries), I would be here somehow responsible for it and he would find a way to blame me and leave his all rage and anger on me. My stupid Pisces Venus took all this **** for 5 years.

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PISCES MOON!

Are you sure it's a pisces moon, not an aries moon?

Can you tell me what degree is the Pisces moon? Early? Last?

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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
Sounds exactly like my ex.

Shes Cancer ascendant, 4th house stellium in Leo, yes we live far up north, including mars and sun.

I read some vedic 'doom intrepretation' of mars in 4th and how it would make the native display lots of anger at their family, and in this case it was really true.

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What's her moon?

posted April 07, 2019 03:28 PM            

his Moon is 25 degree Pisces. On the apex of a T-square moon-mars/mercury-neptune. On the apex of Yod moon-venus (leo-asc leo), saturn-pluton Libra.

posted April 10, 2019 02:42 PM            

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@hearttreasure

his Moon is 25 degree Pisces. On the apex of a T-square moon-mars/mercury-neptune. On the apex of Yod moon-venus (leo-asc leo), saturn-pluton Libra.

He is definetely not an Aries moon. I am Aries myself, it probably wouldn't last that long with an Aries moon. Because we share same asc and his moon falls into my 8th house, where my Venus and Mercury sit.

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So your ex has Mercury/Neptune, is it a hard aspect?

This person is also having a Mercury/Neptune square. I think she/he has Moon in Pisces, because she/he doesn't want to own her/his mistakes. I mean, everyone has a mistake, but this person feels everyone has a responsibility of any mistakes happened in her/his life, she/he is acting like a victim most of the time.

I too an Aries moon and I don't think this moon doesn't take any responsibility of their own action. This moon is pretty much independent and brave, so they are pretty much know their own responsibility and feel ick if they should act like a victim in every situation. They most likely will fight back in a different ways according to people hahahaha.. (I may be wrong, maybe others can share if there's an Aries moon who doesn't act like that)

posted April 12, 2019 04:40 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
So your ex has Mercury/Neptune, is it a hard aspect?

This person is also having a Mercury/Neptune square. I think she/he has Moon in Pisces, because she/he doesn't want to own her/his mistakes. I mean, everyone has a mistake, but this person feels everyone has a responsibility of any mistakes happened in her/his life, she/he is acting like a victim most of the time.

I too an Aries moon and I don't think this moon doesn't take any responsibility of their own action. This moon is pretty much independent and brave, so they are pretty much know their own responsibility and feel ick if they should act like a victim in every situation. They most likely will fight back in a different ways according to people hahahaha.. (I may be wrong, maybe others can share if there's an Aries moon who doesn't act like that)

Pisces Moon is dependent, isn't it? Which is different with Aries Moon who is highly independent.

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Yes, he has a mars/Mercury conjunction and it opposes Neptune. He can easily Change or distract the reality very tactfully. He has a Cancer stellium and there is no way to be Right anyway because he is Always the Right one. When I tried to push his defenses or accuses back, he got angrier. (Mercury/mars squares moon. Saturn/pluto conjunction inconjuncts (150) moon) What only matters to him is not to solve the Problem or understand the main reason, but just being Always Right.

Cancers can be very very sweet, if they want to and if they have a secret plan and want to use you for this Goal.. If you don't fulfill their wishes, you are suddenly most cruel Person on the world. Their sensitivity is only for themselves and for their Family. My 12th house is Cancer, thus there are a lot going on in this relationship other than this Question, too. This is only my experience and I am tired of learning my hard lessons through Cancers. My dad has a Cancer stellium, mum is a Leo Sun with a Cancer stellium.

Aries moon or sun would be too proud to Play the victim. This is rather cancer's Job. He was dependent in a way that he wanted to Control me and to make me dependent to him. My spontaneous Actions have Always been hurt him, while he could do whatever he wanted to do. When he didn't tell me About them at the Right time, he'd Always had his reasons.