posted April 06, 2019 03:59 PM            

Transit Saturn opposite Natal Chiron
Transit Pluto opposite Natal Chiron
Transits Pluto/ Saturn conjunct Natal Saturn
Transit Neptune opposite Natal Mercury
Transit Uranus square Natal Jupiter/ Venus/ ASC

posted April 06, 2019 06:20 PM            

at some point in my life pluto was opposite chiron but i dont know when exactly i'd have to look and think about it (i was born with pluto in scorpio, my chiron is in gemini so that had to happen), same with neptune opposite mercury (born with neptune in cap have a leo mercury) same with uranus squaring my venus/ascendant (i just had saturn exact square them both + my moon, pluto too recently) i was born with it square jupiter though so that hasnt happened

i'm alive, it's all good, don't worry lol

a transit that seems threatening isnt necessarily (pluto- venus/ascendant/moon worked out, saturn exact was positive and so far so good, better really) and worrying wont help anyway

posted April 06, 2019 06:33 PM            

With these outer planet transits, it helps to remind yourself this is a learning experience and you're going to get some things 'wrong' as long as there's any such judgments of 'right' and 'wrong.'

Pluto = empowerment, deeper inner strength.
Saturn = life structure, sense of responsibility.

So your sense of responsibility and control are being transformed. Your life needs to be restructured in some crucial ways that will be empowering to you.

Pluto being the slower planet and making the conjunction to natal Saturn sets the context for the rest. The purpose here is a new start in relation to material resources and control; a transformation of this in which limited external resources point more to internal resources, determination and resolve, as more important than the ingredients to form the 'right' stuff.

It is a chance to restructure your life according to your own personal standards of inner strength and empowerment. But you can accomplish a lot through sheer determination and grit during this transit.

Pluto-Saturn being opposite natal Chiron highlights the natal opposition of Chiron to Saturn, which can indicate too much reliance on material definitions for security and safety. Transforming your life structures may require addressing your emotional hold on certain things with which you've hedged yourself about.

Neptune = higher octave of Venus, ideals, Compassion, creativity.
Mercury = natural thinking processes, analysis.

So your natural tendency for analysis (Mercury in Virgo) and for appropriate focus on practical details is now being modified by a necessary learning of the bigger picture, higher ideals, the more spiritual considerations that always modify the so-called facts.

Neptune's opposition to natal Mercury indicates some unclarities or uncertainties in communications with others in which it is better to listen intently and keep an open mind so that unfamiliar terms or thinking can gain the real meaning in your mind. Not the best time for far-reaching decisions, especially if they at all involve depending on others to come through for you. Ideas can get blown out of proportion even with the best intentions. Misunderstandings can happen from your imagination getting the best of you.

Uranus = higher octave of Mercury, transpersonal connection that transcends simple logic or reasoning (current understanding).
Venus-Jupiter-Asc = Values, growth, quality of life and relationships.

So your growth patterns are being altered for the benefit of your social life, appreciation of others and their cultures, and overall sense of adventure, which may come spontaneously; greater appreciation of the surprises and oddities in life.

Uranus's squares show some changes in personal values and social connections, tastes, that could get over-dramatized at times, but overall help you out of any ruts that have formed. You may even get the opportunity for some real adventure and to meet new and interesting people. But like a breeze in spring such adventures may not last long, but can bring a refreshing feeling good for the soul.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted April 06, 2019 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
depends on your life really, when saturn was opposite my chiron/ saturn return time and i think exact (saturn-chiron) it was probably around when i was completely addicted to heroin

at some point in my life pluto was opposite chiron but i dont know when exactly i'd have to look and think about it (i was born with pluto in scorpio, my chiron is in gemini so that had to happen), same with neptune opposite mercury (born with neptune in cap have a leo mercury) same with uranus squaring my venus/ascendant (i just had saturn exact square them both + my moon, pluto too recently) i was born with it square jupiter though so that hasnt happened

i'm alive, it's all good, don't worry lol

a transit that seems threatening isnt necessarily (pluto- venus/ascendant/moon worked out, saturn exact was positive and so far so good, better really) and worrying wont help anyway

some people have great saturn returns, it's all about you, and in spite of mine being heroin i'd be lying if i said it was all bad; plenty of good memories there mixed in with the **** ones

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posted April 06, 2019 07:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I have been theough almost all of thise and saturn return. Saturn return is just normal cycel of live. Nothing to worry about, thise are all slow miving olanets and they will not manifest like a lightning from the sky type of way. Also the planets does not rule over us or anything like that . The natal with transits are just a chart that shows our inner life and things we are going through mentally physically etc. Nothing more or less. My saturn return: had started excersizing a few years before the return and upped my game during the return and after. Gained more emotional maturity.. started to feel ready for bigger changes in my live. Started uni during saturn return. Got my bachelors degree 2 years after the return.. understood my emotional triggers better and started to try to handle my triggers etc. Its an ongoing process but I’m super self aware now...

Anyways when you say you are worried, like why? The planets will not take over your life and mind and free will

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posted April 06, 2019 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
That's definitely a collection of challenging transits. No point in worrying. Let's break them down.

With these outer planet transits, it helps to remind yourself this is a learning experience and you're going to get some things 'wrong' as long as there's any such judgments of 'right' and 'wrong.'

Pluto = empowerment, deeper inner strength.
Saturn = life structure, sense of responsibility.

So your sense of responsibility and control are being transformed. Your life needs to be restructured in some crucial ways that will be empowering to you.

Pluto being the slower planet and making the conjunction to natal Saturn sets the context for the rest. The purpose here is a new start in relation to material resources and control; a transformation of this in which limited external resources point more to internal resources, determination and resolve, as more important than the ingredients to form the 'right' stuff.

It is a chance to restructure your life according to your own personal standards of inner strength and empowerment. But you can accomplish a lot through sheer determination and grit during this transit.

Pluto-Saturn being opposite natal Chiron highlights the natal opposition of Chiron to Saturn, which can indicate too much reliance on material definitions for security and safety. Transforming your life structures may require addressing your emotional hold on certain things with which you've hedged yourself about.

Neptune = higher octave of Venus, ideals, Compassion, creativity.
Mercury = natural thinking processes, analysis.

So your natural tendency for analysis (Mercury in Virgo) and for appropriate focus on practical details is now being modified by a necessary learning of the bigger picture, higher ideals, the more spiritual considerations that always modify the so-called facts.

Neptune's opposition to natal Mercury indicates some unclarities or uncertainties in communications with others in which it is better to listen intently and keep an open mind so that unfamiliar terms or thinking can gain the real meaning in your mind. Not the best time for far-reaching decisions, especially if they at all involve depending on others to come through for you. Ideas can get blown out of proportion even with the best intentions. Misunderstandings can happen from your imagination getting the best of you.

Uranus = higher octave of Mercury, transpersonal connection that transcends simple logic or reasoning (current understanding).
Venus-Jupiter-Asc = Values, growth, quality of life and relationships.

So your growth patterns are being altered for the benefit of your social life, appreciation of others and their cultures, and overall sense of adventure, which may come spontaneously; greater appreciation of the surprises and oddities in life.

Uranus's squares show some changes in personal values and social connections, tastes, that could get over-dramatized at times, but overall help you out of any ruts that have formed. You may even get the opportunity for some real adventure and to meet new and interesting people. But like a breeze in spring such adventures may not last long, but can bring a refreshing feeling good for the soul.

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posted April 06, 2019 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Hey at least your being honest and positive about it. I’ve read a lot on this site about lost of love ones/ jobs etc happening during these types of transits. Made me a bit worried but understand it’s what you make of it. Kind of been feeling disconnected and not like myself for the past couple years but maybe that’s myself changing with Saturn return. Thanks for sharing and input!

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there's usually bright spots even through rough patches, and even if these transits are rough on you (they might not be) you'll still have those days and moments that will matter

i can't tell you what will happen beyond any shadow of a doubt, no one can, not even the people you've read talking about their own experiences (keep in mind how transits interact with your life is also based on your chart which is different than the people who wrote the perspectives you're reading)

if you lose a job then it's not meant for you, and there's something else to do once you're free of whatever it is you're doing

and if you're scared of losing people, well... it can always happen, not necessarily to death but in a million other ways people put walls between them all the time

consider your experience of fear surrounding loss as a chance to reflect on your interactions with people who matter to you and make the most out of what you have with them while you have it rather than dwelling on the idea of losing them

every moment you have with people who you love matters,make them count, say the **** that goes unsaid way too often when people know each other well and take little things forgranted just out of habit

on the off chance you were to lose someone it would at least be with the knowledge that they knew they were valued and things were good, better that than regret at any rate

that's not to say you'll lose anyone, you might not, not everyone does during those transits

if you're feeling disconnected maybe it's time to rebuild a connection with yourself and the world around you, and sometimes when old **** isnt working it's time to find new **** that does

posted April 07, 2019 07:42 AM            

january and february passed, nothing bad happened, instead positive things have that required reflection and work etc and i'm better for the experience

had i spent that time worrying about it i wouldve driven myself crazy for nothing (or maybe even been the cause of some of my problems, when people are worried or fixated on negative **** they tend to act like that's already true and **** things up for themselves)

posted April 07, 2019 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
btw maybe you'll find this comforting, maybe you won't, but i was on here back in december in a thread unrelated to transits and a member took it upon themselves to warn me about my saturn transit (squaring venus/ascendant and moon/descendant) and told me how terrible the end of january-february would likely be and how they were worried too with some similar placements etc and so on (told her that wasn't cool, and shouldn't be done unless someone asks about transit possibilities)

january and february passed, nothing bad happened, instead positive things have that required reflection and work etc and i'm better for the experience

had i spent that time worrying about it i wouldve driven myself crazy for nothing (or maybe even been the cause of some of my problems, when people are worried or fixated on negative **** they tend to act like that's already true and **** things up for themselves)

predictions aren't 100% even when they come from someone who's knowledgeable about astrology

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posted April 07, 2019 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Thanks Dumuzi. It does help to hear that. Sometimes I get in a loop of reading things but have to step back and not take things as concrete or what will be. Just found out about these transits the other day (have never paid attention to transits before)and started reading and was like ahhhhh haha but you’ve helped me realize I shouldn’t worry. And could even be a learning lesson/ possibility for growth who knows.

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yeah i get you a lot of people can be really negative about certain transits (and they might've been for them, but they play out against your chart and can manifest in many ways) and if you're already in a bad headspace that **** can be daunting

considering what you've said though all of these transits could really be about connecting you more to yourself and that can be hard work and difficult and come through some shake ups etc (and if you aren't one for change sometimes even positive sudden change can be terrifying, there are a lot of people who are just as afraid of good things coming their way as they are of bad things because routine can become comfortable even if it's negative) which would be good for you

it's easy to lose yourself in the day to day ******** that gets piled on, finding that connection again is harder work than people like to admit sometimes and many people lack it when they don't actually make time for it

posted April 07, 2019 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yeah i get you a lot of people can be really negative about certain transits (and they might've been for them, but they play out against your chart and can manifest in many ways) and if you're already in a bad headspace that **** can be daunting

considering what you've said though all of these transits could really be about connecting you more to yourself and that can be hard work and difficult and come through some shake ups etc (and if you aren't one for change sometimes even positive sudden change can be terrifying, there are a lot of people who are just as afraid of good things coming their way as they are of bad things because routine can become comfortable even if it's negative) which would be good for you

it's easy to lose yourself in the day to day ******** that gets piled on, finding that connection again is harder work than people like to admit sometimes and many people lack it when they don't actually make time for it

think about the things that scare you the most about these transits, maybe they're the areas you need to focus

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posted April 15, 2019 12:27 AM            

My mantra right now is "stay in your own lane." It's so easy to get wrapped up in the undertow of drama going on around me. People who I thought I could trust, have proven untrustworthy. People who I didn't suspect to be troublemakers, have shown their true intentions through their actions. It's easy to react to other's negativity, but all it really does is take away from my own energy and keeps me from accomplishing my goals.