posted April 15, 2019 09:01 PM            

I think planets in the eighth makes you assume everything is yours, but not that they're necessarily selfish... But they automatically assume people owe them favors or they kinda 'possess' people's possessions.

posted April 16, 2019 02:54 AM            

Obviously, they are not all selfish, but it’s a general trend I’ve noticed.

posted April 16, 2019 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
^ 😂 Omg! I just clicked on this thread to write Aries moon. Lol

Obviously, they are not all selfish, but it’s a general trend I’ve noticed.

I know two Pisces suns, Aries moons. They’re the least selfish of the bunch. The man I’m divorcing is a Virgo sun, Aries moon and he is the most selfish person I’ve ever met! That may sound bias but that is my objective opinion lol!! I’m being sarcastic. I also know a Scorpio sun, Aries moon and she’s in the middle of those I’ve mentioned. I also know a Taurus with a Pisces moon and Venus conjunct Mars in Aries. She seems pretty generous and genuinely concerned for others. Of course I know Aries suns, but selfishness isn’t a quality I immediacy observe.

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funny i'm a virgo sun, aries moon (i have venus conjunct ascendant too), so most of the placements listed so far and i'm not particularly selfish

i tend to feel like other people's needs are more important than mine because i can go without and be fine whereas it'd be unfair to make that choice for someone else

regularly put myself last with most things because of that

i indulge in **** sure, ive used a lot of drugs and made some poor decisions when it's come to sex etc but i wouldn't say when you balanced all that out against the average person catering to their own needs it amounts to more

i'm not particularly materialistic, i don't expect or ask for special treatment, i'm more likely to give than to take etc and so on

even on an emotional level i'll put myself aside for someone else if they need it, because again i can handle going without but making a choice where i'm pushing that on someone else is unfair so putting myself aside is alright to me since i have control over my own emotional needs and dont need an outside source to have them met (and even if i feel like i do the reality is that by forcing myself to meet them on my own i'm better off anyway so the disadvantage doesnt really matter except as a fleeting feeling that i'd get over quickly enough anyway)

@Brenda_S what isn't selfish about assuming things are yours and you're owed things? that's generally what a lot of selfish and entitled people think

posted April 16, 2019 09:15 AM            

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Originally posted by erickaf:
Venus/Mars square too.

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found this funny, i have this too

so far every post has touched on something that's in my chart but no one has ever used that word to describe me even when they've been ****** at me (and i've heard plenty of unflattering things more than once from different people)

might be a matter of other aspects in my case (uranus and mercury easy aspects on both my venus and moon maybe or the moon being 7th house etc), but it's funny all the same

posted April 16, 2019 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
funny i'm a virgo sun, aries moon (i have venus conjunct ascendant too), so most of the placements listed so far and i'm not particularly selfish

i tend to feel like other people's needs are more important than mine because i can go without and be fine whereas it'd be unfair to make that choice for someone else

regularly put myself last with most things because of that

i indulge in **** sure, ive used a lot of drugs and made some poor decisions when it's come to sex etc but i wouldn't say when you balanced all that out against the average person catering to their own needs it amounts to more

i'm not particularly materialistic, i don't expect or ask for special treatment, i'm more likely to give than to take etc and so on

even on an emotional level i'll put myself aside for someone else if they need it, because again i can handle going without but making a choice where i'm pushing that on someone else is unfair so putting myself aside is alright to me since i have control over my own emotional needs and dont need an outside source to have them met (and even if i feel like i do the reality is that by forcing myself to meet them on my own i'm better off anyway so the disadvantage doesnt really matter except as a fleeting feeling that i'd get over quickly enough anyway

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Wow! Thank you for your reply. That was probably the most forthcoming response I’ve had from a Virgo sun / Aries moon. I only know two anyways. It’s not exactly a representative sample.

I think selfishness is more an expression of an immature Aries. All signs can be selfish if immature. It just seems that this is more a challenge with Aries than others. There is a difference between enlightened and unenlightened self-interest. My husband has this really challenging opposition between his moon and Saturn over his MC/IC axis. My moon tSquares this. It’s been a tough balance for us.

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posted April 16, 2019 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
funny i'm a virgo sun, aries moon

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Hey, so am I! 😄

I *know* I can be very “me first”. But if I don’t take care of myself first, I will be useless to everyone else. That’s just how it is!
Sorry, not sorry.

posted April 16, 2019 08:24 PM            

Sometimes my bf will make a comment like "it's all about you" Sometimes I get that from my mom too.

I don't really care. I have no first house stuff in my chart and think I don't put my self first enough sometimes. So thank God I have something in Aries.

Sometimes I think the Venus Pisces helps tone my Aries sun down a bit.
Plus I have Saturn square my Sun so that puts a bit of damper on the Aries energy.

I've totally experienced the selfishness with other Aries before.

My friend has Aries moon. Not really the selfish type. She has Cancer Sun. Definitely impulsive. A tad competitive. Wanting to go on adventures when we have a paper due in our class that day.

posted April 17, 2019 04:09 AM            

Do any of you have Mars in the first or second house? I feel that this might be a contributor too.

I've got Mars in the second and sometimes feel pretty selfish. Like my stuff's mine and I hate when people feel that they can dabble in it. Or sometimes I do think of myself first. It first starts out with thinking 'na it's not fair of me to do this' and ends with 'too bad gotta take care of myself sometime'. (Like someone needing my help for the next couple of hours while I just feel like going to a bar right now)

Someone else with Mars in the first... He'll literally call out people for 'taking too much food' and there will be too little left for him. Like he makes everything his.

@Dumuzi true about the 8th house stuff you mentioned. But it's not quite selfish but not sure how to explain it. Like they have no issue sharing or putting other people before them. But they think that others are supposed to be that way too.

posted April 17, 2019 10:27 AM            

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Originally posted by FireVirgo:
Hey, so am I! 😄

I *know* I can be very “me first”. But if I don’t take care of myself first, I will be useless to everyone else. That’s just how it is!
Sorry, not sorry.

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there's a difference between self care and being selfish though, self care isn't selfish disregarding other people's needs while you care for yourself is

everyone can be selfish at points that's just human, but when it's an inherent personality trait someone has i consider it an issue honestly

balance is important and all that **** , and sometimes that means putting other people first and weighing your needs against theirs and seeing what you can go without so they can have

a "me first" attitude just doesn't make sense to me in a lot of situations, seems like everyone eventually loses in that case because you can't possibly always put yourself first and have relationships with other people that make them feel valued

sacrifice can be important in the bigger picture, and sometimes a loss in the present leads to something better in the future

@ReachingForTheStars

i don't really know any other virgos very well, there's a couple i speak to occasionally and have known for years and we have deep conversations when we speak but then i don't necessarily even speak to them once a year so there's an odd detachment/intimacy dynamic there none of them have aries moons to my knowledge

so to be fair you know more than me since i only have myself as a sample size

i take care of myself as much as i need it, but generally speaking i'm a fairly apathetic person so it's not really a big deal to me to put other people first

aside from that my own relationship with my emotions is weird because i'm typically somewhat detached, someone has to be very close to really hit me much of anywhere and even then idk comes and goes really

anyway feelings are ephemeral generally so most aren't worth the trouble of placing any weight on them, mine, i know other people aren't me so considering them as an individual only makes sense

@Brenda_S

i get you, my fiancee can be like that where it's just like "oh ok i guess you're hijacking my **** " but i don't care when it comes to her, and with other people i've noticed but it has to hit a point where it's constant before i give a **** and honestly it's only ever been drug related (big surprise i'm sure)

i've always been cool with sharing drugs and alcohol because more people can just add to a good time, but when it's been consistent with someone and they're not just going through a hard time or whatever then i'm the type who just won't hang out with them like that after a while unless i'm really bored and everyone is busy then i'll suck it up and expect that they'll probably put in less than they'll use because it's just more trouble to deal with that than letting it slide and i don't care that much

i get you though, people like that can be annoying after a while and honestly i've never understood how someone can be comfortable not balancing **** out by reciprocating in some manner