posted April 27, 2019 05:46 AM            

But if its someone with only the negatives I can't stand even being in the same room with that person, its super repulsive to me! Our energies will clash so badly I get on a fiight mode and also don't even wanna be near that person..

Luckily I don't attract that much of "hard core" plutonians into my life! I have had only 2-3 encounters so far thank god.
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What I attract is though Aries moon males I have noticed. All my lates close guyfriends and/or crushes all have had their Moon in Aries (aspecting their mars) in my 8th.

I seem to attract males who connects to my 8th house...

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One other thing with venus square mars is, mars is actually as we know one of plutos rulers, so that way I think it makes you attract plutonians and also edgy people into your life. Venus mars aspects, meaning you attract and are attracted to dynamic energies such as drama and who is better at that then plutonians? Also Leo, I remember you said you attract leo males aswell? So in short you may be attracted and attract dynamic people instead of soft and/or drama free people more suited to your personality. You may "need" that dynamic type of people as they maybe help you process unconcious things etc?

posted April 27, 2019 10:57 AM            

no problem

i actually just noticed yesterday that i have hard pluto and/or saturn aspects with everyone in my immediate family so i really don't know any different and with the added detachment i have from my childhood i need someone plutonian to balance things for me

my mother and father both have their pluto loosely conjunct my sun, my mother's saturn is on my mars, my father's saturn is on my ic, my older brother's pluto is on my ascendant (exact, our synastry is all kinds of ****** ), my younger brother's saturn is on my ic and his pluto is square my mercury

so i was born into a **** show really lol and as a result i don't feel much without extremes

i didn't assume you did anything on purpose necessarily, i know some of a plutonians destructive tendencies are part of them being overwhelmed and just reacting usually, the damage done afterwards is very hard for them too (which is where the need for reinvention can come in)

honestly when i feel a connection to someone and i care even if it's gone bad and i don't have it in me to be the one to reconnect first i don't close that door all the way especially if they can level and be real and acknowledge their end of things

i'll be the one to reconnect sometimes, but not always it doesn't mean i don't care though

if this is my almost twin (leo sun/cap rising guy) that (his leo/cap rather than my virgo/libra) might add an extra layer of pride there and defensiveness,and with you having been the more destructive one he might need you to be the one to come around

plutonic people get to the depths yeah, and with people like me who have that detachment from their feelings usually it's necessary to have someone who can dig past it and will, otherwise i'd just hide behind a wall with everyone and never acknowledge that i felt anything

when i was growing up i wasn't allowed to feel anything or process anything i felt i had to immediately move past things, pretend they never happened, and show nothing even through a lot of abuse and **** and over time that kind of thing really makes knowing what you feel or connecting with it really ******* hard

and with plutonic people it's never all painful, there's a lot of rewarding **** in there too that's why i like them

pain is just part of life, and them digging it up in some ways so it can be healed is fine and worthwhile especially when it comes to the other side of things which is that their depths aren't just negative a lot of people oversimplify or make them out to be something they're not because there's really a lot of good in there and they're genuine about it when they let you see past that vulnerability

but you just can't get there if you're as emotional as them usually, too explosive that way

@Hikaru29

posted April 30, 2019 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
One other thing with venus square mars is, mars is actually as we know one of plutos rulers, so that way I think it makes you attract plutonians and also edgy people into your life. Venus mars aspects, meaning you attract and are attracted to dynamic energies such as drama and who is better at that then plutonians? Also Leo, I remember you said you attract leo males aswell? So in short you may be attracted and attract dynamic people instead of soft and/or drama free people more suited to your personality. You may "need" that dynamic type of people as they maybe help you process unconcious things etc?

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posted April 30, 2019 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

@Hikaru29

i'm curious since i just mentioned it to melinn in the post above, what's your synastry with your family members like? do you have a lot of pluto and saturn there?

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Yes.

With my dad, his Pluto square my Sun/Mercury, trine my Moon, sextile my Venus, quincunx my Mars. His Saturn square my Sun, sextile my Asc.

My Pluto opp his Moon, sextile his Mercury. My Saturn square his Asc/Moon, trine his Sun...

With my Mom, her Pluto trine my Moon, square my Mercury, sextile my Venus. Her Saturn square my Moon, trine my Mercury/Asc.

My Pluto sextile her Sun, trine her Moon, square her Mars. My Saturn sextile her Venus, conjunct her Mars.

Both my brothers' Pluto trine my Asc. One of their Saturns conjunct my Asc. Another's Saturn opp my Moon, conjunct my Venus, square my Mars.

With one, my Pluto trine his Mercury. My Saturn trine his Moon.

posted April 30, 2019 08:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Yes.

With my dad, his Pluto square my Sun/Mercury, trine my Moon, sextile my Venus, quincunx my Mars. His Saturn square my Sun, sextile my Asc.

My Pluto opp his Moon, sextile his Mercury. My Saturn square his Asc/Moon, trine his Sun...

With my Mom, her Pluto trine my Moon, square my Mercury, sextile my Venus. Her Saturn square my Moon, trine my Mercury/Asc.

My Pluto sextile her Sun, trine her Moon, square her Mars. My Saturn sextile her Venus, conjunct her Mars.

Both my brothers' Pluto trine my Asc. One of their Saturns conjunct my Asc. Another's Saturn opp my Moon, conjunct my Venus, square my Mars.

With one, my Pluto trine his Mercury. My Saturn trine his Moon.

With the other one, my Saturn sextile his Sun/Venus, trine his Moon, square his Mercury.

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interesting, since you only mention having 2 brothers im curious are you a middle child? i am