posted May 01, 2019 04:43 PM            

As for Jesus I wondered as well why his birth chart is on astrotheme if he is God. This tells us that he mingles with humanity if its true. And I have seen this proof recently. He even lives in Leonardo Dicaprio and shares his sex life with him. That's why hes famous because Jesus. I can even prove this he has Yeshua conjunct his Ascendant exact in Libra.

I have also witnessed him changing birth charts of people to purposely mislead me.

As for the placements both are not good. The Sun in Pisces isn't good for men. And the moon in Aquarius shows his attitude for women plus its conjunct Mercury which shows he has health problems related to sexuality. In addition his Mars retrograde in Virgo shows he looks down on women and thinks gay men are superior.

posted May 01, 2019 05:43 PM            

There are many historical aswell as "biblical" evidence showing he can not have been born at winters time. Everything from the tax collection time to the shepherds being outdoor watching their flock etc.

posted May 01, 2019 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
He is not born in winter time so no, that chart is not true. Also moon sign must be the most tricky one to get right since it changes so fast.

There are many historical aswell as "biblical" evidence showing he can not have been born at winters time. Everything from the tax collection time to the shepherds being outdoor watching their flock etc.

Who is it then, born at 25th December? (I don't know why astrotheme says February). Historians points out Mithras, or Mithra a mystical person, persian. All the "christmas" rituals concerning the christmas tree, misteletoe, santa clause etc etc is connected to roman mythology and also persian rituals.

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December 25th is actually December 21st the winter solstice. The Summer and Winter Solstices are the most important events in astrology.

So basically they are trying to say Jesus represents the winter solstice but he doesnt seem very Capricorn like.

posted May 01, 2019 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I know the antichrist. In his birth chart he has Venus at 12 Taurus square Mars 18 Leo, Saturn 16 Leo, and Pluto 12 Leo. He pretends he is Jesus and runs a cult where he makes millions of dollars of giving people 'God messages'.

As for Jesus I wondered as well why his birth chart is on astrotheme if he is God. This tells us that he mingles with humanity if its true. And I have seen this proof recently. He even lives in Leonardo Dicaprio and shares his sex life with him. That's why hes famous because Jesus. I can even prove this he has Yeshua conjunct his Ascendant exact in Libra.

I have also witnessed him changing birth charts of people to purposely mislead me.

As for the placements both are not good. The Sun in Pisces isn't good for men. And the moon in Aquarius shows his attitude for women plus its conjunct Mercury which shows he has health problems related to sexuality. In addition his Mars retrograde in Virgo shows he looks down on women and thinks gay men are superior.

TBH I think Jesus is the antichrist. How can a man be God? And if he was why are there gays on the earth? Its a reflection of his light and that he was gay and probably satan. What greater way for satan to deceive than to say he is Gods son.

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Well I can tell you don’t like Christianity. That’s okay I mean everyone has there own beliefs... no one knows who the Anti Christ is so I really don’t believe these are accurate. Neither one. So I don’t think astrotheme should have those up there. I really don’t think there is any way to really know his chart if he even has one. Plus the idea of god doesn’t go with astrology. So if hypothetically speaking if god was real (which I do believe) astrology wouldn’t really exist to the degree people follow it. Which is what I struggle with Im trying to stop believing in astrology but it’s so addicting 😫

posted May 01, 2019 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Well I can tell you don’t like Christianity. That’s okay I mean everyone has there own beliefs... no one knows who the Anti Christ is so I really don’t believe these are accurate. Neither one. So I don’t think astrotheme should have those up there. I really don’t think there is any way to really know his chart if he even has one. Plus the idea of god doesn’t go with astrology. So if hypothetically speaking if god was real (which I do believe) astrology wouldn’t really exist to the degree people follow it. Which is what I struggle with Im trying to stop believing in astrology but it’s so addicting 😫

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posted May 01, 2019 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
He is not born in winter time so no, that chart is not true. Also moon sign must be the most tricky one to get right since it changes so fast.

There are many historical aswell as "biblical" evidence showing he can not have been born at winters time. Everything from the tax collection time to the shepherds being outdoor watching their flock etc.

Who is it then, born at 25th December? (I don't know why astrotheme says February). Historians points out Mithras, or Mithra a mystical person, persian. All the "christmas" rituals concerning the christmas tree, misteletoe, santa clause etc etc is connected to roman mythology and also persian rituals.

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posted May 01, 2019 08:03 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I think he had Venus in Pisces too.

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Yes on astrotheme he does. He has a Pisces stellium in the 2nd house I believe.

posted May 02, 2019 12:51 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Someone told me Gemini was God which I can kind of believe in because Gemini rules the mind which is what God is.

His birth chart on astrotheme is not good. And whats worse is he gave himself a 12 Capricorn ascendant the exact same as my ex boyfriend just to tell me he did it.

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posted May 02, 2019 01:40 AM            

You see, in the beginning..
There was the void..He the
Light the spark..came upon
she..the womb of the Uni-Verse...
2 became 1, but remained 2
Thus everything was created
In pairs
As above
So below...

Out of a11 Mother and Father's
Creations..humans were the most
special..and God Mother and
Father chose to live through
them..and with them...

..and we turned our backs on
Our Mother and Father..believed
False gods..

Jesus/\Yeshua was Father God. ...

posted May 02, 2019 02:29 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I know the antichrist. In his birth chart he has Venus at 12 Taurus square Mars 18 Leo, Saturn 16 Leo, and Pluto 12 Leo. He pretends he is Jesus and runs a cult where he makes millions of dollars of giving people 'God messages'.

As for Jesus I wondered as well why his birth chart is on astrotheme if he is God. This tells us that he mingles with humanity if its true. And I have seen this proof recently. He even lives in Leonardo Dicaprio and shares his sex life with him. That's why hes famous because Jesus. I can even prove this he has Yeshua conjunct his Ascendant exact in Libra.

I have also witnessed him changing birth charts of people to purposely mislead me.

As for the placements both are not good. The Sun in Pisces isn't good for men. And the moon in Aquarius shows his attitude for women plus its conjunct Mercury which shows he has health problems related to sexuality. In addition his Mars retrograde in Virgo shows he looks down on women and thinks gay men are superior.

TBH I think Jesus is the antichrist. How can a man be God? And if he was why are there gays on the earth? Its a reflection of his light and that he was gay and probably satan. What greater way for satan to deceive than to say he is Gods son.

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posted May 02, 2019 07:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Ok seems you have not met religious people who uses astrology in an extent so it seems a strange concept to you I reccon. Why wouldn’t the belief of astrology function with a belief of god? As a believer of a creator one believes the creator has created the whole universe and the planets and the energies the planets emits. They have not appeared in thin air by themselves in a perfect order and started to vibrate energies.

If someone uses astrology as fortune telling and does not believe in the free will along with destiny and believes the planets rules us, then yes that would not function with a belief of a creator.

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I have actually thought like you do. That God put the stars to help him create his people. It can be seen that way most definitely. I follow god more with my heart then I do by book , as Ive never read the Bible. I also go by the stories about God my mom has told me. My family isn’t religious and don’t force me to follow Christianity. It’s just something close Ive help to my heart, so I naturally just was drawn to believe in god. Plus most Christians I know have said you’re not really supposed to be into astrology.
The reason why I feel like astrology can conflict with religious views is probably my own personal problems.
When I feel sad and in doubt, hopeless, astrology isn’t what helps me. Praying to god does. Astrology isn’t there for me when Im feeling sad and hopeless. In fact sometimes it adds to my worries, because I read something about myself in my chart that I don’t like. And even if I don’t agree with it I doubt myself and it makes me feel more bad about myself. It doesn’t help that I believe to have OCD so you’ll know it’s called doubting disease. I just go in a circle of worry. You see how it kind of conflicts? Praying to god I feel like god tells me he knows my heart and that a chart isnt going to tell you who you truly are.
For the record there are some things in charts that are strangely accurate which is why I struggle with following astrology and following god lol because I know some things about my chart are pretty accurate..
I just feel like I can heal with holding a close relationship with god but astrology cant heal me you know? It just tells me who I supposedly am because of the time of my birth.
I feel like believing in god is more intuitive but following astrology is more analytical and I don’t know but it gives me a headache at times and feels unhealthy for me lol
But Im just weird. There are a lot of people who believe in God and astrology at the same time. And it’s really difficult to erase astrology from your life once you’ve gotten so deep into it.

posted May 02, 2019 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ So one has to believe in Jesus coz "he was the father god"....just because of dat sentence ?? Reeks of bull$h!t to me! even if it might not be

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You don’t have to if you don’t want to.

posted May 02, 2019 01:12 PM            

As you said, SoulOfABird, you have an Advantage because you 'know' your astrology, and can make the tweaks that you need, to have Awareness and to make a Balance when and where you need adjusting.

No secret-- is that I'm a very devout Christian, and, I 'love' astrology very much. I have the 'markers' in my chart OF an astrologer. So, humorously, God Planned it for my life??!!

I think that as far as Religion and Faith, and dogmas?? go-- that it's the same as Astrology.

Both Religion and Astrology practice, involve a process of introduction, "immersion" phase, then a true "conversion" 'inside' of you, and finally, deeply studying the texts with assimilation time -- to TRULY Understand.

With Both,
you have to get acquainted with it,
spend time learning some proper-rules/dogmas, foundation, basics.
You have to "spend the time (Saturn)" to be "steeped" in it for a VERY long time. You 'live' it.
You walk it, every single day.

In order to begin to 'really-truly' say you know things about it, it has to go DEEP.

There are phases in getting to know MORE about both. Loads of errors BECAUSE that's what happens when you are trying to 'grasp' ALL of its meanings.
And the teacher/pastor/group you belong to, matters very much, in how they influence the way you approach.

You MUST go beyond just the "superficial" and parlor-mental understandings, and develop a living Relationship to it.
{Some people might not understand what I'm saying.. ~oy.}
You have to BE it, you have to GROK everything about it. Immerse.

Same goes for Christ, the Bible, learning your astrology-- You must become a 'proper-student' with someone (a school, a good teacher-mentor) that is an ACTUAL proven trained-expert in it. Someone that will take your understanding, and plunge you DEEPLY. You have to 'do the work' as far as the 'learning'-- and Spirit inside you, begins the melding process. Talking to you personally about everything you see, hear, touch, experience.

I love what UK astrologer Steve Judd says-- He believes that the spirit of astrology chooses 'you'. The SAME thing happens, in a spiritual relationship to GOD. "You" think that you have to find God?... no. GOD, is IN your Heart. He, The Spirit, communes with you.

There are other paths that people follow, to get to know and Know God.

I remember a moment VERY Clearly when I was in college, and the Jesus Freaks and Hari Krishnas were very heavily evangelizing their own belief systems.

At that time, I was very-well into NewAge thinking. Had been since ~13 years old. 50 years ago. Cayce, and The Seth Materials; then, Yogananda's Book.
I was raised as a very devout (and REAL) Christian. (REAL, because, It "took" inside me.) Prayed the Rosary (with my grandmother every night when I was little and lived with her a while-- went to daily Mass with her), temporarily joined a cloistered monastic order in my mid-20s.
Later, went for a year of college-level training on the Foundations of Christian faith, where I learned how to use the tools I learned to 'shred' apart the entire Bible-- much like astrology students learn various tools and dig into everything-deep about astrology.

I've lived my whole life, one foot in devout Christianity, the other foot in new-age philosophies; then, for curiosity and wanting to learn something 'new' to me (beginner's mind), I started looking at astrology. Detected there were 'patterns' and that caught my attention. Soon, I was delving and increasing my Understanding into the Mysteries of the Cosmos, the study of astrology.
And doing 'all', I learned about my self, each step of the way, walking IN it. Seeing it Present, in Everything. Seeing GOD play-- As In Heaven, so on earth.

Studying astrology INCREASED my Love for God.

God has ALWAYS existed as 'I Am' ..
He created people for true and REAL Relationship.
God gave us "free will" to choose what we want, because, who wants to be in a 'forced' relationship with an other? How can you really KNOW if that other really 'means' what they say, when they tell you "I Love You."

"I Heart You".
"I Accept You".
And, I want to Know more about you … Deeply.

Back to my college experience--
Jesus Freaks, and Krishnas.
.. I had one moment when 'enough was enough' of hearing everyone 'talk'.
I told the team of Jesus Freaks who went after me several times a week for a few months --
Well, the Bible/you say that "Jesus is The Light"?
Well, I'm looking for The Light, with all my might. {Logic} When I find The Light, then, IF Jesus 'is' The Light, you won't have to "worry" about me (my soul).
..
Then one night {about 12 years later}, when I was 'the least spiritually-seeking' that I'd EVER been in my adult life, I went to sleep, and had a mystical-experience and 'thorough' conversion. Dream turned 'Lucid'. (During a Full Moon Eclipse to my Neptune Libra 10th, April 1987-- 32 years now. It changed me.)
..
I was NOT following ANY religion formally then.
I was a simply a tired mom of a newborn and a toddler.
Living like a Taurus 'milk-machine' roflmao!!
..
I didn't find him/God... HE, in the Right Time, found me. .. (yay)
I didn't have to 'do the work'.. he did.
Spirit opened me.
It wasn't a man, a church, an institution.
It was God, Supernaturally through my sleep.
..
Didn't really understand what had happened. Found out. Joined a 'church' one year later.

I do 'know' how cruel dogmatism can be. How narrow. How hurting.. (and I feel sorrow when I think of some of the damages that some dogmatics have done-- 'please' forgive them, because, 'some' of these don't know what they did, in their Zeal. You have to "GROW OLD in God" before 'what you know mentally' sinks in very very deeply and works in you. In the end, it's like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, looking behind the curtain.)

There's a Difference between 'knowing' God, and Knowing God.
And a person can't really Completely Know, because it's the Nature of God to keep Changing {to 'us' because of Saturn slicing our 'experience' in Time-- when the truth is he never changes}. And we See and can behold the various 'parts' of Him, through-out Saturn-Time, until we die.

God Invented Time.
We know him 'now' .. in-part, through the Glass Darkly-- But some day, Face-to-Face. {scripture}

We are All Students of Life.

So. It's OKAY if you need to "take a break" and step-back from 'astrology'.. Sometimes when you get too obsessed, and it upsets you, give it Rest. It's good to explore the various paths philosophies dogmas religions-- or to just be nothing, for a while.

And yes, I agree that when some transits go super super hard and tough, it's GOOD when you have Jesus and your Angels to be able to call on, for Help, .. SoulOfABird.

I-myself think/believe that the Key to Everything, is to Go Deeply. Whatever you do, and whatever interests you in life-- if you HAVE the Opportunity (and the Finances, and The Time) … then BE a DEEP DIVER. Be Thorough in your Studies, then, lean-back. And Feel. Feel 'who' you are, in the river, in the streams.

Paddle, swim. REST. Swim again. Keep on Swimming.

Jesus of Nazareth Event Charts
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jesus_of_Nazareth

I've seen and paid attention to all kinds of vids and articles on astrology and Jesus.

My FAVORITE one of all, is the vid I came across, which I'll leave below. The man was a bit eccentric, and into 'conspiracy theories'. Got himself in trouble?? oh no. Disappeared for a while now. (I think he's in university now. Concentrating on his degrees.)

(topic) The Holy Grail of Astrology: Birth Chart of Jesus Christ, Jesus of Nazareth (GianPaolo Di Cocco, posted Nov 16, 2017) [50:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4wHfEMyoa4

Opens with a little drama, and flair.
Cloaked in mysterious..
Says that someone 'from the Vatican' called him anonymously, with disguised voice, and 'told' him this data.

WHEN I 'saw' this chart, and his delineation, I was enrapt. This is truly a marvelous discovery he made. It's my favorite Jesus Chart.
(And has GREAT synastry to my own??? awww *wink* *Heart*)

Listening to his explanations, any student of astrology will 'learn' things about configurations, aspects-- how to pull-apart a birth chart to 'read' it. Defend it.
I think this vid is a "learning experience" for a student.

For me... It's a Marvel.

* Astrodienst chart-comments BEGIN vid-mark ^6:32
* BIRTHDATA Chart at sound-vid mark ^9:20
* Chart ASPECTS/Configs, "Grand-Sextile" mark ^10:52
* Jesus, (theory) was Astrologer, delineation ^36:32

One thing I found interesting was how he at one point said that Jesus could have been 'viewed' as a 'delusional and confused soul' by the people he was in relationship to, in that day.

I chuckled at that-- as the people who followed him, had not had 'revealed' Knowledge till the week Jesus died... When Peter "got it".
Whereupon Jesus said that it was GOD who had 'Revealed this Knowledge' to him-- (an Awakening, inside of Peter-- God-Revealed information/experience).

So. Analogy. If you are a person who can see Color-- and you are walking with and trying to teach people who ONLY see black-and-white and greys, about the World of Colors... it might be hard for those B/W viewers to understand Color.
In fact, they might call you delusional?

It takes "faith" in the teacher that Color Exists. Without FIRST having a little-faith, and taking the 'risk' that Color Exists, you might 'miss' the Reveal-moment.

Awww. I Love you All!

Nice topic, SoulOfABird.

(music) Cells, Planets .. ~same thing (Erika Lloyd, arr Peterson, perf by Avante, very rich-accapella) [6:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQMOH4C7CAc

So that I can edit for Clarity, and errors..

*Please no whole quote yet, thanks*

BirthData (ref DiCocco)

posted May 02, 2019 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
In my many years of studying spiritual things I've discovered astrology is God. I don't believe in praying to an entity anymore. I only worship astrology because its accurate and its enlightened me too much.

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If only more people understood that The Most High ("God") is THE genius mastermind behind the divine science of astrology. He deserves ALL the glory and praise for Western Astrology's consistent precise accuracy, as well as the practical results of predictive Vedic Astrology.

posted May 02, 2019 08:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Personally, I think he was a virgo. Virgin birth and all, plus, around the time of his birth there was a 3 planet conjuction that would have been bright enough to be the "star" they followed to find him.

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posted May 02, 2019 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:

If only more people understood that The Most High ("God") is THE genius mastermind behind the divine science of astrology. He deserves ALL the glory and praise for Western Astrology's consistent precise accuracy, as well as the practical results of predictive Vedic Astrology.

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posted May 02, 2019 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I know the antichrist. In his birth chart he has Venus at 12 Taurus square Mars 18 Leo, Saturn 16 Leo, and Pluto 12 Leo. He pretends he is Jesus and runs a cult where he makes millions of dollars of giving people 'God messages'.

As for Jesus I wondered as well why his birth chart is on astrotheme if he is God. This tells us that he mingles with humanity if its true. And I have seen this proof recently. He even lives in Leonardo Dicaprio and shares his sex life with him. That's why hes famous because Jesus. I can even prove this he has Yeshua conjunct his Ascendant exact in Libra.

I have also witnessed him changing birth charts of people to purposely mislead me.

As for the placements both are not good. The Sun in Pisces isn't good for men. And the moon in Aquarius shows his attitude for women plus its conjunct Mercury which shows he has health problems related to sexuality. In addition his Mars retrograde in Virgo shows he looks down on women and thinks gay men are superior.

TBH I think Jesus is the antichrist. How can a man be God? And if he was why are there gays on the earth? Its a reflection of his light and that he was gay and probably satan. What greater way for satan to deceive than to say he is Gods son.

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