posted May 16, 2019 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
is depicted as the “House of Higher Knowledge"?

https://www.terrynazon.com/9thHouse.html

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The 9th house is the house of "higher knowledge" i.e that which is the "ideal". We go to school to learn how the world "should" work.

The 10th house is the experience of "active knowledge" i.e "the real deal". This is how the world really works.

The 8th house is the knowledge of the existence of the "raw deal" that undermines the 9th i.e as Felicity Huffman has demonstrated, "education" can be bought. And a "degree" is just a piece of paper.

With the 8th, the nature of the "ideal" itself is a flawed premise and is constantly being challenged.

If you keep researching something deeply and obsessively,over time it loses its hypnotic effect on you.

When you uncover things that even Academics are not privy to, you have unmasked knowledge that they can't even fathom existed.

Then you become the sought after Sage. This is essentially what the 8th house is.

To demonstrate, someone with Jupiter in 9th will be lucky in school and with speaking languages. Often the attainment of various degrees is included.

With Jupiter in 8th, conventional "learning" institutions may not appeal. This person may be interested in the knowledge not found in library books or varsities.

To them, the knowledge they seek is hidden in between messages, totems, word of mouth and the obscure dreams etc. It requires focused research as well as delicate extraction.

posted May 16, 2019 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
When you uncover things that even Academics are not privy to, you have unmasked knowledge that they can't even fathom existed.

To demonstrate, someone with Jupiter in 9th will be lucky in school and with speaking languages. Often the attainment of various degrees is included.

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I have Pisces Jupiter in the 9th House in the Koch and Equal House System. On the other hand, Jupiter is in the 10th House conjunct my Midheaven (9 orb) in every other house system. I relate to descriptions of both placements, so I'm not certain which one to "stick" with so to speak.

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posted May 16, 2019 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
8th House goes DEEP into things, particularly taboo things like sex or crime or anything under the surface of "cocktail party" kind of talk. The 9th House would be more intellectual research like history etc

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I see, thank you! I have Uranus and Neptune in the 8th House

I'm pretty sure that the 5th House's cusp sign, occupant planet, house-ruler and (I think) intercepted sign is the responsible for one's sexual identity.
This blogger's detailed real-life examples used to support her astrological concepts is phenomenal.
http://muminspeaks.blogspot.com/2006/01/5th-house-sexual-identity_14.html

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posted May 16, 2019 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YW Leo

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posted May 16, 2019 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YW Leo

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posted May 17, 2019 12:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
I already done my research(in past life).
No need in this life.
Ketu/SN in 8th House.

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Cool! nice interpretation

posted May 17, 2019 03:37 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Cool! nice interpretation

It also means researching comes naturally to you, one of your gifts.

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Yet this whole time I thought it my research skills were so superior because I have Mercury in the 3rd House and Pluto in the 6th. My baad! Haha.

posted May 17, 2019 03:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
I have Pisces Jupiter in the 9th House in the Koch and Equal House System. On the other hand, Jupiter is in the 10th House conjunct my Midheaven (9 orb) in every other house system. I relate to descriptions of both placements, so I'm not certain which one to "stick" with so to speak.

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Jupiter finds its place of domicile in Pisces.Here the native learns through connecting otherwise "unrelated" (atleast on the surface) subjects to each other.

Pisces energy learns through connectivity of many things and can be quite good at learning very complex abstract topics that require a holistic understanding or breadth of vision.

Since Pisces also vibrates to the 12th house of things that are obscure or difficult to make out etc. I think your confusion as to which house to relate to is telling . As Pisces often times "identifies" with more than one thing at a time. So clarity is tough.

posted May 17, 2019 05:07 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Cool! nice interpretation

It also means researching comes naturally to you, one of your gifts.

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posted May 17, 2019 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YW means you are welcome, my Friend.

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posted May 17, 2019 02:24 PM            

In the 8th you research things, in the 9th, the knowledge gained through research is ready for dissemination.

posted May 17, 2019 04:14 PM            

8th is an extension of the 2nd house's theme of personal resources, but more about shared resources. It is about going deeper to get under the surface (Martial or Pluto principle). It is merging of object and subject and may not be facilitated by communication, but more 'getting in deeper'. This is why those of us with key factors in the 8th house (in my case Sun-Saturn) make such good researchers.

9th tends to mean book learning, scholarship, the capacity to process information towards ideals; to write essays and expound on topics theoretically. It is an extension of the reading-writing rote learning of primary school.

8th is more about the deeper levels of the relations between things, how they interact and overlap on a subtle level, how they relate sexually, spiritually, merge, etc; the underlying structures that organize and bind particulars or persons together, the materials or resources that do this naturally.

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posted May 17, 2019 08:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Because you must creep before you walk, and the houses are connected to each other.

In the 8th you research things, in the 9th, the knowledge gained through research is ready for dissemination.

So, the higher knowledge expressed in the 9th was gained through intrepid research in the 8th.

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posted May 17, 2019 08:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
[b]9th house is about the overview, the big picture, the Jupiter principle. That is the notion of higher knowledge that plays out with communicative exchange (teachers, pupils, foreigners, ministers) as is characteristic of the 3rd-9th axis.

8th is an extension of the 2nd house's theme of personal resources, but more about shared resources. It is about going deeper to get under the surface (Martial or Pluto principle). It is merging of object and subject and may not be facilitated by communication, but more 'getting in deeper'. This is why those of us with key factors in the 8th house (in my case Sun-Saturn) make such good researchers.

9th tends to mean book learning, scholarship, the capacity to process information towards ideals; o write essays and expound on topics theoretically. It is an extension of the reading-writing rote learning of primary school.

8th is more about the deeper levels of the relations between things, how they interact and overlap on a subtle level, how they relate sexually, spiritually, merge, etc; the underlying structures that organize and bind particulars or persons together, the materials or resources that do this naturally.

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I thank you for your detailed precision

posted May 29, 2019 10:35 AM            

9th house IMO is the everyday academic, the PHD, the expert in something. Not just that tho. They'll take in anything, learn anything.

8th is the undercover detective assassin who learns via cutting everything open and checking it to the last minute detail.

both can include divine knowledge as well, both gotten by different means.