posted June 06, 2019 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Your Aphrodite is less than 1 degree from your DSC so I would imagine you could be very attractive to men.

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posted June 06, 2019 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
then why would people say that to me too and why have i had similar experiences? i don't have any personal water planets

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we all have water houses, as well as the 'natural' water houses 12, 4, 8?

posted June 06, 2019 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What aspects or placements would cause this? I feel like being around people who have positive energy really helps me. It makes me feel good and positive.

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Water signs/aspects/placements

• Your Moon is square Pluto.
• Pluto is in your 3rd H of communication while your Mercury is in 8th H of Pluto.
• Venus is in Pisces in 8th H along with Mercury, Jupiter (amplifies) and North Node (life path).
• Your Jupiter conjuncts your NN in your 8th H both squaring Neptune.

posted June 06, 2019 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Nodes conjunct the ASC in the natal , it's like a direct plug in.
The other people's energy feels like it's been plugged into the ASC person outlet and felt directly without much resistance

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posted June 06, 2019 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I agree with you. I believe NN in 1st or 7th H even without conjuncting the ASC/DSC can give this especially if one of the Nodes is in water sign or in hard aspect to Moon/Neptune/Pluto.
But I don't believe it would affect the native's mood/feelings if there aren't other indicators in thebchart supporting it. I don't have much experience with this though and my NN in 7th H doesn't help because my chart is full of water sigbs, aspects and placements.

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i have it on my ascendant without being water heavy, it's funny though draconic and sidereal are almost exactly the same just 2 degrees different and have a lot of water in them i lack air in those

and i can feel other people's feelings well, i can also detach from them and feel something closer to neutral as a base state and go from there

i can feel other people easily and when i was younger i used to be affected by that, but i was taught how to shut it out by a witch lol meditation techniques

it's useful, but before i learned how i was very affected it's different now though and i'm grateful for it i imagine things would be terrible otherwise

posted June 06, 2019 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
^^^I have North Node exact conjunct my ASC in Pisces, I don't have other water in my chart except for this, and I feel people's emotions like on an Xray. I don't feel much empathy for them but I absorb the energy and it affects me. I tend to take the exit as soon as I feel someone's clashing energy starting to affect me.

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pisces ascendant is pretty significant, with your north node in the first the lack of empathy doesn't surprise me though neither does the looking for an exit

when i was younger i was more reactive towards people's feelings and being able to feel them, now i can separate myself but it makes me feel obligated to stick around and be there for them whether i want to or not

it's inconvenient frequently, even when i don't care if i can feel someone else and know something is wrong then i feel like i have to be there anyway just so they have someone

btw weren't you the one who tried to warn me about january-feb? and saturn squaring my **** ? that's actually been alright so far

posted June 07, 2019 01:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i have it on my ascendant without being water heavy, it's funny though draconic and sidereal are almost exactly the same just 2 degrees different and have a lot of water in them i lack air in those

and i can feel other people's feelings well, i can also detach from them and feel something closer to neutral as a base state and go from there

i can feel other people easily and when i was younger i used to be affected by that, but i was taught how to shut it out by a witch lol meditation techniques

it's useful, but before i learned how i was very affected it's different now though and i'm grateful for it i imagine things would be terrible otherwise

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Yes, you're a good example. You have no water at all except for a Neptune trine Sun which might play its role though. I'm amazed it affected you though that much.
I don't know you, but I somehow sensed you (your natal energy) immediately by reading a few things about you. I don't pick up energy as easily online especially when I'm not even seeing someone's eyes but when I do it's quite accurate.

Both draconic and vedic lack key things (at best) compared to the western one imo. I've checked both for people I know well enough and same thing applies to them. I don't sense water in you. The sticking up part and that feeling of being kind of obligated even though you're not, feels like most of it it's your Cap Mars, then Virgo Sun trine Neptune and a tiny bit of your Libra energy (although I don't believe it would be enough by itself).

posted June 07, 2019 03:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Nodes conjunct the ASC in the natal , it's like a direct plug in.
The other people's energy feels like it's been plugged into the ASC person outlet and felt directly without much resistance

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posted June 07, 2019 03:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
but it makes me feel obligated to stick around and be there for them whether i want to or not

it's inconvenient frequently, even when i don't care if i can feel someone else and know something is wrong then i feel like i have to be there anyway just so they have someone

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posted June 07, 2019 07:30 AM            

Having ASC in Pisces though it's pretty significant and it's even more if your NN is in Pisces too.
Do you have any 12th/8th H placements or Neptune/Pluto aspects?

posted June 07, 2019 07:49 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
I have south node conjunct ASC from 12th house by 1 degree. I did not know this caused you to absorb others energy! Thanks Orange. I too am like Dumuzi - a water void, but absorb others energy so easily and get confused which emotions I’m feeling. I always thought it was my venus in 12th and moon in 1st house conjunct sun.

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Actually your South Node in 12th H has similar energy to South Node in Pisces, Orange has South Node in Pisces too.
Your Moon in 1st H is absolutely significant.

posted June 07, 2019 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Actually your South Node in 12th H has similar energy to South Node in Pisces, Orange has South Node in Pisces too.
Your Moon in 1st H is absolutely significant.

I believe that if your South Node wasn't conjunct your ASC you would still be like that.
Any Neptune/Pluto aspects? Neptune Pluto in angular houses? 8th/12th H placements?

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posted June 07, 2019 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
I have south node, Venus, Jupiter, Chiron and Pallas in 12th house. Pluto in 4th conjunct Juno that aspects a lot of planets (squares and oppositions) but at wide degrees. No Neptune aspects besides sesisquadrate to moon/sun (Neptune in 6th house). Also, my 12th house is in cancer so I don’t know if the moon in first (12th house ruler) has to do with anything?

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Yes, South Node and Jupiter in 12th H are for sure significant. Also any planet aspecting the SN is magnifying its energy.
Moon in 1st by itself is important too I wouldn't say that 12th H in Cancer is significant though, but Moon in 1st ruling your 12th H yes it's somewhat enhancing it (still not enough by itself).

I can't say for sure because I don't know a lot about Chiron but I suspect Chiron in 12th H is able to detect and heal others' hidden pain.
You sure have an emphasis on 12th H.

Is any of your 12h H planet except of Venus in Cancer?
Your Neptune in 6th H would make you an escapist in 6th H matters (routines including daily chores,school, work etc), Neptune and Uranus have difficulty in 6th H because it's an earthy practical house and these two are impractocal and escapists (especially Neptune). You probably don't like 9-5 jobs and want to have a creative job like singing/acting/writing/gardening/being a psychologist or offering some kind of help/healing to others. Both 6th and 12th H (meaning Virgo and Pisces) want to help others but the difference is one wants to help in tangible practical ways (Virgo) the other one in intangible, psychological ways (Pisces).
We all have Neptune somewhere, in 6th H it doesn't give you the abillity to read others unless it's conjuncting the DSC or making hard aspects to natal planets.

You say that your Neptune isn't making any aspects, do you mean it doesn't make difficult aspects to your personal planets or any planets including Jupiter and the Nodes?

posted June 07, 2019 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
resp <for Dumuzi>

Isn't that a typical Virgo trait?

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THAT's what it is!!

Dumuzi. It's a Service to other Humans.
Natural Virgo House is the 6th?

Not everyone is capable of being able to 'be there' for Others. The Universe made sure to have some that can and Do. It's natural to them.

Even by your 'just hanging around' them, you have no idea (maybe) that you provide the importance of "human-presence" in their lives-- even as they (silently) process internally. You may even be even helping to save lives, doing that. It could all be on a subconscious level.

LOADS of people don't 'feel' that others Care.

I was on a bus ride a few months ago. The lady across the aisle was thinking-probably no one noticed her. She was 'hidden' in all the crowded-bodies in the vehicle, and looking out the window.
.. I saw emotional-pain seize her face, and her hands hiding this.
Everyone there was 'just going about their business.'
.. Her face touched my Heart. At one point on the trip I scooted across the aisle to (temporarily) sit next her (radiating 'Solid Strength', Support, and Care--).
Privately, with a low volume, I 'just asked her' if she's okay. She said yes. Then I quietly went back to my seat.

As I was getting off the bus, she was waiting there, and she thanked me FOR Caring, and said that it's a rare individual who cares for others.

I have a Virgo Moon H(9).. with connections to a Jupiter Cancer H8.
I get very sensitive.. If someone's suffering, I'll "provide" that human-presence.
Sometimes, you don't even need to say a word to them. Just the fact you Cared counts VERY much.

#Strong enough.

posted June 08, 2019 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Yes, South Node and Jupiter in 12th H are for sure significant. Also any planet aspecting the SN is magnifying its energy.
Moon in 1st by itself is important too I wouldn't say that 12th H in Cancer is significant though, but Moon in 1st ruling your 12th H yes it's somewhat enhancing it (still not enough by itself).

I can't say for sure because I don't know a lot about Chiron but I suspect Chiron in 12th H is able to detect and heal others' hidden pain.
You sure have an emphasis on 12th H.

Is any of your 12h H planet except of Venus in Cancer?
Your Neptune in 6th H would make you an escapist in 6th H matters (routines including daily chores,school, work etc), Neptune and Uranus have difficulty in 6th H because it's an earthy practical house and these two are impractocal and escapists (especially Neptune). You probably don't like 9-5 jobs and want to have a creative job like singing/acting/writing/gardening/being a psychologist or offering some kind of help/healing to others. Both 6th and 12th H (meaning Virgo and Pisces) want to help others but the difference is one wants to help in tangible practical ways (Virgo) the other one in intangible, psychological ways (Pisces).
We all have Neptune somewhere, in 6th H it doesn't give you the abillity to read others unless it's conjuncting the DSC or making hard aspects to natal planets.

You say that your Neptune isn't making any aspects, do you mean it doesn't make difficult aspects to your personal planets or any planets including Jupiter and the Nodes?

Pluto in 4th H is kind of similar to Scorpio Moon/Pluto-Moon aspects. If the degrees of your Pluto aspects are wider than 8-10 orbs then they don't count at all imo. Up to 6 degrees any aspect is valid.

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