posted June 06, 2019 05:50 AM            

-I don’t like blonde woman AT ALL. 1 month later person is “super in love with a blonde woman”

-complains about people having their friends visiting at workplace (if allowed) because it ruins business and then resorts to having friends over and missing valuable customers

-I don’t like talking about *insert subject* and can then be heard speaking freely, to anyone, about said subject.

posted June 06, 2019 06:30 AM            

i make generalizations, but i don't mean them 100 percent (because generalizations aren't 100 percent true, they can't be, so i use them assuming whoever hears them knows they're not absolutes) so sometimes that will happen

i can say "i don't like them" because generally speaking i don't and i don't see how finding one here and there attractive is the equivalent of liking a group of people physically enough to say you do like them if you mostly don't

"don't like" to me means at least 75% of the time they're undesirable

also you can love someone without them physically being your type and that chick in particular wasn't my type physically that didn't have anything to do with how i felt about her though, it's not like you have to be physically attracted to someone to like them (it just helps, and even though i'm saying that my last friend with benefits was only about looks because i didn't really like much else about him)

i'm also really great at saying i'll do something and then forgetting about it for months on end if i do it at all, or for making plans and then not sticking to them (which is why i don't like to make plans usually)

i don't really see the first example as not sticking to something i've said though because it doesn't get canceled out by a single exception (particularly in a case where said exception isn't attractive to me)

also guilty of the third one, but that's because i don't have to enjoy talking about something to talk about it and will if it comes up

not everything is always 100 percent and deviation from generalizations should be expected, and doing things without enjoyment some of the time just happens

i have a lot of uranus aspects in my chart trine mercury, trine moon, sextile ascendant/venus, and it's in my 3rd house (placidus) with neptune and mars

leo mercury (also sextile ascendant/venus and trine my moon) with an aries moon libra ascendant/venus

i tend to impulsively say what i think or feel in a moment very simply, but there's always more detail than just the surface it's just that i'm not going to pick everything apart forever to explain every side of something before making a statement (most people don't) and i tend to assume other people know to allow for anomalies because i always do

posted June 06, 2019 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm guilty of the first one but with redheads, actually met a chick i was with who had redhair because i said i didn't like them

i make generalizations, but i don't mean them 100 percent (because generalizations aren't 100 percent true, they can't be, so i use them assuming whoever hears them knows they're not absolutes) so sometimes that will happen

i can say "i don't like them" because generally speaking i don't and i don't see how finding one here and there attractive is the equivalent of liking a group of people physically enough to say you do like them if you mostly don't

"don't like" to me means at least 75% of the time they're undesirable

also you can love someone without them physically being your type and that chick in particular wasn't my type physically that didn't have anything to do with how i felt about her though, it's not like you have to be physically attracted to someone to like them (it just helps, and even though i'm saying that my last friend with benefits was only about looks because i didn't really like much else about him)

i'm also really great at saying i'll do something and then forgetting about it for months on end if i do it at all, or for making plans and then not sticking to them (which is why i don't like to make plans usually)

i don't really see the first example as not sticking to something i've said though because it doesn't get canceled out by a single exception (particularly in a case where said exception isn't attractive to me)

also guilty of the third one, but that's because i don't have to enjoy talking about something to talk about it and will if it comes up

not everything is always 100 percent and deviation from generalizations should be expected, and doing things without enjoyment some of the time just happens

i have a lot of uranus aspects in my chart trine mercury, trine moon, sextile ascendant/venus, and it's in my 3rd house (placidus) with neptune and mars

leo mercury (also sextile ascendant/venus and trine my moon) with an aries moon libra ascendant/venus

i tend to impulsively say what i think or feel in a moment very simply, but there's always more detail than just the surface it's just that i'm not going to pick everything apart forever to explain every side of something before making a statement (most people don't) and i tend to assume other people know to allow for anomalies because i always do

that's my chart

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posted June 06, 2019 09:49 AM            

most people don't take what i say as being this 100 percent thing, and i just tend to express myself confidently and like i'm sure of everything i say etc it's just the way i come off

posted June 06, 2019 10:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm curious is your mercury in an earth sign?

most people don't take what i say as being this 100 percent thing, and i just tend to express myself confidently and like i'm sure of everything i say etc it's just the way i come off

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posted June 06, 2019 10:05 AM            

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Water Mercury 11H trine Uranus 3H

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usually it's mostly earth mercuries i annoy with that habit, though scorpio mercuries can find it annoying too mostly my fiancee though lol

edit: btw i don't see it as being fickle, it only makes sense to me to not put complete stock in any given anything and allow for chances that something might come along and change things etc because absolutes just aren't really a thing

but if i'm over 50% that's sure enough for confidence, with it going up with the number and then like i said i just express myself that way

posted June 06, 2019 10:26 AM            

If you don't feel absolute about something, don't make a statement.

I've earth Mercury sextile Saturn.

posted June 06, 2019 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I get annoyed when people tell me they'll never do something and the next moment they'll go do it. And when I call them out on it, they give me some excuses. After awhile I won't believe what they say anymore.

If you don't feel absolute about something, don't make a statement.

I've earth Mercury sextile Saturn.

I'm thinking people with this tendency have Mercury hard aspects to Jupiter/Uranus/Neptune.

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sometimes what you initially think and what ends up happening are different, i think it's odd when people don't assume growth and change are just part of life and that words sometimes become meaningless even if they initially weren't at the time they were said

posted June 06, 2019 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
sometimes what you initially think and what ends up happening are different, i think it's odd when people don't assume growth and change are just part of life and that words sometimes become meaningless even if they initially weren't at the time they were said

passing thoughts aren't facts

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Don't misunderstand... I'm not attacking you. I'm just stating my opinion that I don't like people not doing what they said they would do (or doing what they said they won't do).

posted June 06, 2019 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Don't misunderstand... I'm not attacking you. I'm just stating my opinion that I don't like people not doing what they said they would do (or doing what they said they won't do).

And I'm not talking about minor things like the type of food or gal they like. I'm talking about like one of the examples OP listed: talking about a subject they claimed to dislike or convince you of something just to change their mind the next day. It can be annoying. It's worse if this change of mind affects their integrity.

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i didn't take it as an attack lol i get where you're coming from it's just that i suppose i never really saw that sort of behavior in the way other people see it because i just see it as "**** changes" or "life happens" etc

it's an interesting perspective i just don't really get it, but that's probably because i'm the sort of person who annoys people that way

i hit both 1 and 3 on those lists, because i'll engage in conversation i don't enjoy and also because sometimes i just argue to argue and it's not my opinion

i just like to see how people react to certain buttons being pushed and then i don't tell them about it until later if it comes up again

i'm aware that's annoying, but it is something i do or on a rare occasion i'll actually just change my mind after talking with someone and then reflection after a conversation and if someone came back with a different opinion after speaking to me about something i wouldn't see that as something to be annoyed by i'd just assume that i said some things that changed their perspective and see it as a good thing if i thought they were wrong in the first place lol

i see the ability to change your mind or to sometimes do things out of what you'd see yourself doing not being trapped by a comfort zone or predictable behavior as something that can be positive in other people and i don't view it as fickle i see the opposite as being rigid

posted June 06, 2019 10:18 PM            

Mutable signs and planets!

posted June 07, 2019 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I get annoyed when people tell me they'll never do something and the next moment they'll go do it. And when I call them out on it, they give me some excuses. After awhile I won't believe what they say anymore.

If you don't feel absolute about something, don't make a statement.

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This. I couldn't trust someone like that too, I can not take them seriously.
I have no earth at all but I'm sure
Cancer Mercury and Chiron in 1st H have to do with me being blunt and sincere and I'm sure my Pluto aspects want the same in return.

posted June 07, 2019 11:13 AM            

Neptune in hard aspect to Mercury is one for sure, the worst is they change and can be manipulated so easily, they are not even aware of it unless you point it out to them with proof because their memory sucks.

Neptune in 3rd and Mercury in 12th H have a similar effect.

And I will unclude Aries in here, more specifically Moon and Mercury. I'm surprised that no one said about Aries.

Libras would be in this list too but their balanced ways of speaking and trying to be in the middle, saves them, so you can't "accuse" them for this.

I believe Jupiter in hard aspect to Mercury could indicate a liar but I'm not sure.

Mercury in Scorpio, Cancer, Capricorn, Taurus and generally Plutonian and Saturnian people are bothered by this.

I don't think Aqua/Uranus Mercury are this way though even though they can be good liars.

posted June 07, 2019 02:28 PM            

Both my dad and sister are like this. My dad is heavy in mutable signs (Mercury-Venus conjunct in Virgo, Mars-ASC in Gemini, Sag Moon and Neptune) and he will say one thing and then days later say something to completely contradict it. Majority of the time he will twist things around for his personal benefit, and often when I catch him doing it I will call him out on it (Aqua Mercury square Mars here). He will talk about how he hates smoking indicas and how they make him depressed and have no energy to do anything, and then out of the blue will want to smoke some because it "helps him sleep", like wtf do you like it or not? Don't **** talk indicas if you use them to help you pass out.

My sister is similar (Aries Mercury with Mars-Venus in Gemini conj. Virgo Rising and Jupiter. Taurus Sun). Granted she's only 15 but she has already done this multiple times, went through a phase where she didn't like red meat and now she suddenly wants to eat it again. She had a phase where she was obsessed with Big Time Rush for the longest time and then suddenly hated them and didn't want anything to do with them (unless she wanted to listen to her BTR album she got). She'll talk about guys she really likes for a really long time and then not like them anymore because now she has someone else she likes to talk about. Her Venus-Mars in Gemini is closely opposite Pluto so it's like extreme levels of attachment that constantly jump around from person to person.

It's like being surrounded by people who have already been discussing over five different topics in one conversation while I'm sitting here thinking about what I wanted to add on the first topic we started talking about. With my dad and my sister, it makes them seem less credible, especially when they act like they know what they're talking about 24/7. Majority of the time I'm thinking, "That's not how he really feels, he's just saying that because he's mad, her tastes change on a daily basis" etc. It helps me in dealing with these people if I pay attention to not what they're saying but also why they're saying it.

I also tend to notice that they tend to distort what I have told them about certain things. I told my dad about how I thought one of my co-workers just "didn't give a **** " when he would give you **** and make jokes, and he told him that I said that he was "mean". I told my sister how the cherry kiwi was my least favorite of the tropical starburst, and she asked if I had any of those ones left because "I hated them." I didn't say I hated them, I said they were my least favorite; why would I be eating them if I hated them?

posted June 08, 2019 03:48 AM            

Are you for real or are you just trolling this crap?
What placements gives that kind of mind?

I can tell you that my ninth house stellium and my sun in trine with Uranus wouldnt listen a minute to that kind of "friendly regulations"

posted June 08, 2019 05:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

I don't think Aqua/Uranus Mercury are this way though even though they can be good liars.

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posted June 08, 2019 08:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Neptune in hard aspect to Mercury is one for sure, the worst is they change and can be manipulated so easily, they are not even aware of it unless you point it out to them with proof because their memory sucks.

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Oh, I so agree with this about Neptune-Mercury. I know 2 of them personally. They so easily believe what people say and can imagine things that are not true. They don't seek to verify sometimes, not unless they also have aspects to Mercury from Pluto/Saturn.

posted June 09, 2019 07:40 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
I have an Aqua mercury in hard aspect to Uranus and I can be quite rigid actually. I can be mentally so fixed that I can feel it physically. But then out of the sudden it changes. And that tends to irritate more earthy people (like my Taurus sun Cap ascendant boyfriend). I don' t do that often though

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Aquas are indeed very rigid actually, it's a fixed sign after all.

Changing isn't what gets on my nerves personally, being stubborn/changing frequently without a reason is what gets on my nerves.
Usually these type of people lack logic or they don't know themselves well enough.

Lack of logic causes major problems and is actually the most dangerous trait one can have imo,so for me so these people aren't worth my time. The ones who don't know themselves tend to be unstable/easily affected. Some are easily bored and need variety, others are weak.

posted June 09, 2019 08:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Aquas are indeed very rigid actually, it's a fixed sign after all.

Changing isn't what gets on my nerves personally, being stubborn/changing frequently without a reason is what gets on my nerves.
Usually these type of people lack logic or they don't know themselves well enough.

Lack of logic causes major problems and is actually the most dangerous trait one can have imo,so for me so these people aren't worth my time. The ones who don't know themselves tend to be unstable/easily affected. Some are easily bored and need variety, others are weak.

I don't know your natal aspects and placements, but Aqua Mercuries don't lack logic at all, there is logic even behind their madness. They have a good sense of humor (especially if there is some Cap in their chart). One thing I dislike about this Mercury is that (depending on the rest of the chart) they know how to keep their mouth shut when it comes to themselves, but they choose to not do it when it comes to others, they just enjoy doing it but that's a really negative trait because you can't actually trust them.

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posted June 09, 2019 08:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Oh, I so agree with this about Neptune-Mercury. I know 2 of them personally. They so easily believe what people say and can imagine things that are not true. They don't seek to verify sometimes, not unless they also have aspects to Mercury from Pluto/Saturn.

Mercury-Jupiter people sometimes are seen as liars because they're so confident with what they say without considering if they can actually do it. But I don't think they meant to lie.

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Exactly. I have met lots of Mercury-Neptune/Piscean Mercury people (unfortunately) and same goes for Aries.

It doesn't matter what sign their Mercury is in, they all have these classic Neptunian traits: lack of logic, believing words easily no matter how many times they've found out that the person has lied to them, they don't have a good memory.

Their brain works like this: They see a white wall, but if someone tells them that the wall is black they will see the wall as black instead of believing the reality which is in front of their eyes.

So it's natural that they're the worst at understanding what kind of person someone is. You may treat them like trash but if you say a few good words like "I really love you" that's it, they forget everything. I have some dramatic stories anout Mercury-Neptune people I've known. If I saw these in a movie I would be "come in there is no way that such gullible people like this exist, that's too far-fetched."

Pluto trine Mercury doesn't help in one case I know, and the Pluto-Mercury trine is tighter than the Mercury-Neptune opposition. I believe Saturn us the onky medicine for Neptune but I don't think I know anyone habing both, I can't say for sure.

Mercury-Jupiter might not meant to lie but in the end they do. It's the result that matters. If they do it often then I can't trust them. I never give my word if I'm not sure I can do smth no matter how much a person may insist/plead/nag etc.

posted June 09, 2019 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:

I agree with that. I dont like to be around people who lack logic. My father is like that (Aries sun and mercury). I find that really irritating. And yeah there really is always logic behind my thoughts and actions and I'm not too changeable either, although my chart is full of mutable energy.

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Ugh.. Tell me about it. My mom and all her relatives are like that (meaning heavy Aries/Mars aspects) plus all men a friend of mine attracts. None of them has a water or earthy Moon though, it's always airy or fiery. I wonder how much a warmer, more understanding moon would change the most self-centered and uncivilised sign.

What's your dad's Moon?

Do you have Pluto/Saturn aspects or Pluto/Saturn/Uranus in angular houses?

posted June 10, 2019 06:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Exactly. I have met lots of Mercury-Neptune/Piscean Mercury people (unfortunately) and same goes for Aries.

It doesn't matter what sign their Mercury is in, they all have these classic Neptunian traits: lack of logic, believing words easily no matter how many times they've found out that the person has lied to them, they don't have a good memory.

Their brain works like this: They see a white wall, but if someone tells them that the wall is black they will see the wall as black instead of believing the reality which is in front of their eyes.

So it's natural that they're the worst at understanding what kind of person someone is. You may treat them like trash but if you say a few good words like "I really love you" that's it, they forget everything. I have some dramatic stories anout Mercury-Neptune people I've known. If I saw these in a movie I would be "come in there is no way that such gullible people like this exist, that's too far-fetched."

Pluto trine Mercury doesn't help in one case I know, and the Pluto-Mercury trine is tighter than the Mercury-Neptune opposition. I believe Saturn us the onky medicine for Neptune but I don't think I know anyone habing both, I can't say for sure.

Mercury-Jupiter might not meant to lie but in the end they do. It's the result that matters. If they do it often then I can't trust them. I never give my word if I'm not sure I can do smth no matter how much a person may insist/plead/nag etc.

I haven't experienced this aspect (or at least I'm not aware of it if I have). They might not be liars just a dramatic with words? Maybe talking a lot? I don't know..

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I recently told a Neptune square Mercury guy to "have some pride". He's always flirting with this gal who calls him a jerk behind his back but will make him pay for her drinks. He knows it but continues to flirt with her anyway (even though he doesn't like her romantically so I really don't know what's the draw). And when I tried to warn him of some insincere people around him, he'll say "noted" but continues to hang out with them.

Another Mercury square Neptune gal I know had an ex who kinda cheated on her (he admitted to liking another gal), started treating her badly and eventually they broke up and he even left the country. After they broke up, she text him but he won't reply so it seems it's loud and clear that they're over, but 2yrs on and she's still missing him.

It seems they can live in a dream for a long time. I read a lot about Venus-Neptune people being delusional in love, but I see a more dangerous trait with Mercury-Neptune people. These individuals I know also have Neptune square Sun which compounded their problem.