posted July 14, 2019 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I recently began realizing that astrology is God. I read the Romans created the new testament to create pity and empathy in order to control by praying to a 'peaceful savior'. Bible scholars have stated that the disciples if they existed were all illiterate and couldnt write. Astrology is God to me because it tells you everything about life. Even Satan doesnt know how to use astrology and thats why I know its God.

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posted July 15, 2019 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Even Satan doesnt know how to use astrology

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posted July 15, 2019 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Can you elaborate more on this, please?

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posted July 15, 2019 06:39 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Satan isnt smart enough to use or understand astrology. He can only control those who haven't been initiated into astrological wisdom. Because those who understand astrology have respect for themselves and others or are on that path to having love unconditionally. Intelligence is God, the one thing many people do not have. That means they are governed by evil. Astrology is the highest knowledge man can have while on earth. Astrology shows everything there is to know and doesn't lie.

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posted July 16, 2019 12:26 AM            

Pagan religions, going back many millennia, were notorious for their ritual sacrifices and cannibalistic tendencies.

As I understand it, one of the main aims of Christianity in its creation was the outlawing of ritual sacrifice/cannibalism as a religious practice, in addition to bloodsports such as gladiatorial games. This was accomplished through Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, which was meant to absolve all of us of our sins and thus eliminating the need for continual ritual sacrifice, and the metaphorical ingestion of the the body and blood of Christ. In other words, metaphorical cannibalism replacing actual cannibalism.

Progress is an illusion. Society has been bouncing back and forth between the male/yang expression of spirituality, which is based in discipline and dissociating from the ego and desires, and the female/ying expression of spirituality, which is based in the embracing of the ego and indulging of the senses, for thousands of years. You'll see this in real-time in countries like Sweden if you pay attention. Human beings in general can not stand an excess of either.

posted July 16, 2019 12:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
LOL, the irony of this is that compassion, equality, and even the concept of rights, would never have existed without Christianity. I suspect they won't exist in the future either.

Pagan religions, going back many millennia, were notorious for their ritual sacrifices and cannibalistic tendencies.

As I understand it, one of the main aims of Christianity in its creation was the outlawing of ritual sacrifice/cannibalism as a religious practice, in addition to bloodsports such as gladiatorial games. This was accomplished through Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, which was meant to absolve all of us of our sins and thus eliminating the need for continual ritual sacrifice, and the metaphorical ingestion of the the body and blood of Christ. In other words, metaphorical cannibalism replacing actual cannibalism.

Progress is an illusion. Society has been bouncing back and forth between the male/yang expression of spirituality, which is based in discipline and dissociating from the ego and desires, and the female/ying expression of spirituality, which is based in the embracing of the ego and indulging of the senses, for thousands of years. You'll see this in real-time in countries like Sweden if you pay attention. Human beings in general can not stand an excess of either.

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posted July 16, 2019 12:45 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Im sorry but I still believe in God. I love God and at the end of the day astrology isn’t there through my hardships. God is. Im open to other spiritual realms, I believe in them. But I still am Christian. Astrology is onlu a fun hobby for me. This stuff can get addicting and hard to get out of. It’s scary really. I wish I can go back to when I didn’t know so much about astrology and I just lived life. I was more hopeful I think.

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I belief in a higher power too and pray often from the heart and have a strong faith but I am not into organized religions or consider myself Christian.

posted July 16, 2019 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
LOL, the irony of this is that compassion, equality, and even the concept of rights, would never have existed without Christianity. I suspect they won't exist in the future either.

Pagan religions, going back many millennia, were notorious for their ritual sacrifices and cannibalistic tendencies.

As I understand it, one of the main aims of Christianity in its creation was the outlawing of ritual sacrifice/cannibalism as a religious practice, in addition to bloodsports such as gladiatorial games. This was accomplished through Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, which was meant to absolve all of us of our sins and thus eliminating the need for continual ritual sacrifice, and the metaphorical ingestion of the the body and blood of Christ. In other words, metaphorical cannibalism replacing actual cannibalism.

Progress is an illusion. Society has been bouncing back and forth between the male/yang expression of spirituality, which is based in discipline and dissociating from the ego and desires, and the female/ying expression of spirituality, which is based in the embracing of the ego and indulging of the senses, for thousands of years. You'll see this in real-time in countries like Sweden if you pay attention. Human beings in general can not stand an excess of either.

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What’s ironic is that even though the new generation is supposed to be more accepting and about equality. I find them to be reversing everything. Not much love going around. For instance, feminism. Feminism is supposed to be about equality but now you have radicals talking about how they hate men. Putting down men. That’s not equality it’s just a reason to dislike men. People want to stop racism, and be accepting of others which is great, but then you have people that call everything cultural appropriation or put down the group of people who are the opposite of the oppressed in the past and not caring for everyone. And I feel everything is ungenuine now. I don’t know... this generation isn’t for me. I dont like the radicalism and I feel myself feeling down. I dont like the era of social media, people trying to be progressive but it’s actually backwards. People who think religion isn’t about love and acceptance are looking at the radical Christians. God is a loving and accepting god. He wants us to be happy. That is what I believe. I feel it. If I didn’t I wouldn’t be here right now, in this state.

posted July 16, 2019 12:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
LOL, the irony of this is that compassion, equality, and even the concept of rights, would never have existed without Christianity. I suspect they won't exist in the future either.

Pagan religions, going back many millennia, were notorious for their ritual sacrifices and cannibalistic tendencies.

As I understand it, one of the main aims of Christianity in its creation was the outlawing of ritual sacrifice/cannibalism as a religious practice, in addition to bloodsports such as gladiatorial games. This was accomplished through Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, which was meant to absolve all of us of our sins and thus eliminating the need for continual ritual sacrifice, and the metaphorical ingestion of the the body and blood of Christ. In other words, metaphorical cannibalism replacing actual cannibalism.

Progress is an illusion. Society has been bouncing back and forth between the male/yang expression of spirituality, which is based in discipline and dissociating from the ego and desires, and the female/ying expression of spirituality, which is based in the embracing of the ego and indulging of the senses, for thousands of years. You'll see this in real-time in countries like Sweden if you pay attention. Human beings in general can not stand an excess of either.

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posted July 16, 2019 12:50 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
What’s ironic is that even though the new generation is supposed to be more accepting and about equality. I find them to be reversing everything. Not much love going around. For instance, feminism. Feminism is supposed to be about equality but now you have radicals talking about how they hate men. Putting down men. That’s not equality it’s just a reason to dislike men. People want to stop racism, and be accepting of others which is great, but then you have people that call everything cultural appropriation or put down the group of people who are the opposite of the oppressed in the past and not caring for everyone. And I feel everything is ungenuine now. I don’t know... this generation isn’t for me. I dont like the radicalism and I feel myself feeling down. I dont like the era of social media, people trying to be progressive but it’s actually backwards. People who think religion isn’t about love and acceptance are looking at the radical Christians. God is a loving and accepting god. He wants us to be happy. That is what I believe. I feel it. If I didn’t I wouldn’t be here right now, in this state.

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posted July 16, 2019 12:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I don't agree at all. Compassion, empathy, and things of the like came way before religion. Take children for example, they aren't born knowing about God or any religious teachings and yet they display huge amounts of all of those things. It's human nature to be compassionate and have empathy, it's also human nature to find explanations for it. To say we wouldn't have any of those things without Christianity is preposterous. Not to mention how Christianity has changed over the years and was just as terrible as cannibalism or any other act against human rights. It's caused as many wars as any other religion or greed of man.

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I disagree. When I was little, kids my age were so mean. Kids are innocent and pure, but they do not always know how to care for others, or know what’s right and wrong. These days people have no morals cause they hate relgion. The concept of right and wrong came from god. That’s why people these days are out doing crazy stuff. Not everyone has empathy or understanding. Bullying happens among young kids all the time. That’s not compassion. Most of it has to do with the fact their parents didn’t teach them any better. When I was little I would steal because I didn’t know it was wrong. I didn’t realize that the thing I took would hurt someone if I took it from them until I was older. Now I absolutely won’t do that. I learned. I grew. But not all kids are the same. We all have are own personality. Kids are rough with animals again because they dont know any better. My little baby cousins always have to be watched when they’re around my dog because theyll throw things at him or pull his tail. They have to be taught.

posted July 16, 2019 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I agree with everything you are saying here and can relate but they are separate issues from original post to be fair.

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He was talking about how in the futue compassion and equality would no longer exist. So I was just stating reasons why I believe that is already happening amongg the young generation that doesn’t believe in God.

posted July 16, 2019 01:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I don't agree at all. Compassion, empathy, and things of the like came way before religion. Take children for example, they aren't born knowing about God or any religious teachings and yet they display huge amounts of all of those things. It's human nature to be compassionate and have empathy, it's also human nature to find explanations for it. To say we wouldn't have any of those things without Christianity is preposterous. Not to mention how Christianity has changed over the years and was just as terrible as cannibalism or any other act against human rights. It's caused as many wars as any other religion or greed of man.

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Wrong. Social cohesion is a human instinct, not compassion. Thus groups develop a set of rules, and social faux pas which later are designated as morals in order to maintain an orderly society.

posted July 16, 2019 01:16 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
I disagree. When I was little, kids my age were so mean. Kids are innocent and pure, but they do not always know how to care for others, or know what’s right and wrong. These days people have no morals cause they hate relgion. The concept of right and wrong came from god. That’s why people these days are out doing crazy stuff. Not everyone has empathy or understanding. Bullying happens among young kids all the time. That’s not compassion. Most of it has to do with the fact their parents didn’t teach them any better. When I was little I would steal because I didn’t know it was wrong. I didn’t realize that the thing I took would hurt someone if I took it from them until I was older. Now I absolutely won’t do that. I learned. I grew. But not all kids are the same. We all have are own personality. Kids are rough with animals again because they dont know any better. My little baby cousins always have to be watched when they’re around my dog because theyll throw things at him or pull his tail. They have to be taught.

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posted July 16, 2019 02:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Compassion is a biological response to suffering. It does not have its roots in religious teachings. It's primitive and wired into our brains, not religion. There are plenty of studies out there on this. Of course children can be mean lol, does a child being mean to you mean they have no compassion at all? No, and that has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making. Religion is not the source of compassion or empathy and when organized religions do fade out, there will still be plenty of compassion to go around and to say that this generation lacks morals because they lack a belief in God is also a reaching statement. 100 years ago people were burning witches at the stake BECAUSE of God so... I'm not really sure why you would think that. I know quite a few die hard atheists who are the most compassionate people I've ever met and quite a few die hard Christians who are some of the most hateful (in the name of God) people I've ever met. Religion is subjective at best and that's why your theory is flawed. One person can read a scripture and take it one way, and the next person can take it a thousand miles in another direction.

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I think you're talking about empathy, not compassion. Empathy has to do with mirror neurons and being able to "put yourself in other's shoes." Compassion has to do with sacrificing oneself, service, or possessions for another for reasons that are purely without selfishness.

The question you're not of course asking yourself is why was compassion such an integral part of the New Testament of the bible? If it's so inherent to human nature, why encourage it in people? Even your example of people being burnt at the stake contradicts your overall point. Part of what caused the Salem Witch Trials, besides ergot fungus, was mass hysteria, perhaps even for a lark. I would argue not that they did that because of God, but because their own human nature lashed out in response to fear in a violent way. This reinforces my point that social cohesion dictates what we view as moral, and that in the absence of scientific knowledge, we blame natural phenomenon on supernatural causes.

This all boils down to the question, does human nature corrupt religion, or does religion corrupt human nature? Human-beings never cease to find reasons to solve their problems violently. Religion has always been simply one of those justifications.