posted July 14, 2019 02:02 PM            

The traits are:

They have no desire or enjoyment being in close relationships, including being a part of a family.
They almost always choose to do solitary activities.
They have little, if any, sexual experiences with other people.
They take pleasure in a few, sometimes none, activities whatsoever.
They may talk with their first-degree relatives, but they lack any close friends or confidants.
They appear indifferent when someone praises or criticizes them.
They often seem cold emotionally, or simply detached from the situation at hand.

In Myers-Briggs Type Indicator it is INTP personality. How about a natal chart? Can something specific be seen?

posted July 14, 2019 05:25 PM            

12th house placements, Gemini

They almost always choose to do solitary activities.

12th house placements

They have little, if any, sexual experiences with other people.

Mars in the 12th house or Retrograde

They take pleasure in a few, sometimes none, activities whatsoever.

12th house placements

They may talk with their first-degree relatives, but they lack any close friends or confidants.

12th house placements

They appear indifferent when someone praises or criticizes them.

12th house and Gemini, possibly 9th house

They often seem cold emotionally, or simply detached from the situation at hand.

posted July 14, 2019 06:48 PM            

But the correct answer is no, only the potential for the development of personality disorder can be seen in the birth chart. The astrological birth chart is not deterministic. It shows default tendencies in astrological energies that leave wide latitude for choices and development.

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posted July 14, 2019 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Dons2angelss,

That chart looks like a genius especially because the Sun conjunct Neptune in Aquarius. This is a very evolved energy and I think recently got released into certain advanced souls. In this chart its conjunct SN so its a permanent thorn in his side. On one hand he feels like he is a genius, but then someone is always trying to bring him down or stop him. This is probably due to his Saturn in Taurus wich is incompatible with Aquarius. His family could be preventing his spiritual advancement because they are too down to earth. His chart ruler is in Libra in the fourth house so this person loves his family and wants to be around them often.

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posted July 14, 2019 09:46 PM            

And if "disorder" is indeed inferred, then the person concluding such must know the "order" of that specific personality....surely?But this is not the case. We never do.

I have always been of the opinion that Neptune aspects to Nodes/Sun/Mars would show the extent to which an individual does not "comply" with the uniform ideas of rigid societal rules. As would be the case with Uranus aspects to Nodes/ Sun/Mars.

Draco/Natal Sun/Moon/Mars/Mercury on the cardinal points Aries/Libra/Cap and Cancer is blazing own trail(in whatever fashion that is). This especially when close to the 0 degree point.

Draco/Natal Neptune/Uranus on the Aries point also is like this

posted July 15, 2019 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
This chart is belongs to a young man who has schizophrenia and quite a few other personality disorders. He's been hospitalized on and off since he was about 15. His behaviour is similar to what you're describing.

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This chart is belongs to a young man who has schizophrenia and quite a few other personality disorders. He's been hospitalized on and off since he was about 15. His behaviour is similar to what you're describing.

This chart looks to me like the guy is overly sensitive with Sun/Neptune and especially Mercury and Uranus in 8th, with the need to create a barrier from Saturn. If unable, he could have developed schizophrenia - I wonder if he was born that way...

posted July 15, 2019 11:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
People can see lots of things in birth charts when viewed retroactively with knowledge of the person's subsequent development.

But the correct answer is no, only the potential for the development of personality disorder can be seen in the birth chart. The astrological birth chart is [b]not deterministic. It shows default tendencies in astrological energies that leave wide latitude for choices and development.

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Is it like when you cannot "grab" the potential of your natal chart which causes the development of personality disorder? Like you are kind of prevented from your development?

posted July 15, 2019 11:58 AM            

Oh, one more thing comes to my mind, looking at this natal chart. A soul that is meant to give messages to others? Sun/Neptune/South Node, Mercury, Uranus and Mars in Pisces trine ASC - like a channel for other worlds.

posted July 15, 2019 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by curious girl:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
[B]This chart is belongs to a young man who has schizophrenia and quite a few other personality disorders. He's been hospitalized on and off since he was about 15. His behaviour is similar to what you're describing.

Oh, one more thing comes to my mind, looking at this natal chart. A soul that is meant to give messages to others? Sun/Neptune/South Node, Mercury, Uranus and Mars in Pisces trine ASC - like a channel for other worlds.

This is what I mean looking at his chart: http://upliftconnect.com/the-shamanic-view-of-mental-illness/

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posted July 15, 2019 02:06 PM            

Sun conjunct the South Node
Highly experienced in: self-awareness, strength of will, self-expression, leadership
When unbalanced: raging willfulness, entitlement, self-absorption, or bossiness that burns other people or minimizes their individual importance
When balanced: a totally charismatic, regal presence who knows exactly who they are and who is gracious and confident enough to give others recognition

posted July 15, 2019 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:

There are always wonderful potentials in every chart, but there are also two sides to every coin and it's up to the chart owner to choose which side to be on.

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Well, thats my point. Is it up to the chart owner to choose which side to be on? In case of schizophrenia and the case you are describing... it could be seen from the chart there are some problems involved, however, maybe one can only see it only when the backstory is present...

But was he always like that, or something happened to him and then the personality kind of switched to schizophrenia?

I dont really agree with strong twelfth house placements being equal to mental disorder. It depends.

posted July 15, 2019 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by curious girl:
Well, thats my point. Is it up to the chart owner to choose which side to be on? In case of schizophrenia and the case you are describing... it could be seen from the chart there are some problems involved, however, maybe one can only see it only when the backstory is present...

But was he always like that, or something happened to him and then the personality kind of switched to schizophrenia?

He had a really bad childhood and his issues started around 11 or 12 and just snowballed from there.

I dont really agree with strong twelfth house placements being equal to mental disorder. It depends.

Maybe aquarius makes more sense or the eleventh house.

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posted July 24, 2019 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong:
disorders usually happen when something is either over or under active and that can definetly be seen in the chart...
for example somone that has like 10 hard aspects to their mercury is probably going to have some mental problems...

also 6th house (health) and with the right combination the 12th house can point to be institutionalized (it's not always hospitals, can be jail etc) but like i said with the right combination it can lead to hospitalization and illness...

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