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kani
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posted July 25, 2019 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is someone who I've known since childhood (we went to school together).
Please note that the birth time is or might be incorrect.

My question is: what type of ascendant does she have to have in order to make her very soft, nice, emotional, relaxed and even a bit boring. Because that is how she is. She has not one aggressive bone in her body and this despite having so much Arian energy. She also doesn't have the piercing eyes of a Scorpio moon that so many people go on about. I find it so weird, because apart from having Mars in Aries, she also has Mercury and maybe even sun in Aries plus maybe Sun con. Mars but you would never ever say that she has these energies when you meet her.

I (who is a triple Pisces) am much much more impulsive, aggressive and wild than her.
People always treated her very nicely because she seemed a bit fragile.

This is the chart (again, birth time is probably incorrect).

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posted July 25, 2019 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct her Stellium, and it looks like Jupiter aspecting, too.

I'm an Aries, with Mercury and Jupiter in Aries, and I was similar to your friend, growing up. In recent years, that changed, but I feel like I'm getting back to that way of being. Not completely, but a bit.

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posted July 25, 2019 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter in the 3rd might also have her expressing herself more generously.

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posted July 25, 2019 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Jupiter in the 3rd might also have her expressing herself more generously.

I don't think she does that. People used to call her "sleeping pill" in school.
I just wonder whether houses are so much more powerful than signs, because she really doesn't embody either Aries nor Scorpio. Two signs, that are very strong in her chart.

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posted July 25, 2019 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe the birth time is wrong and she's a taurus rising that could potentially put her moon opposite ascendant and aries placements into the 12th

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posted July 25, 2019 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
maybe the birth time is wrong and she's a taurus rising that could potentially put her moon opposite ascendant and aries placements into the 12th

The birth time is most probably wrong. I just put 12 pm cause that's in the middle lol.
That's why I m wondering what ascendant she has to have in order to make her so ...limp I wanna say.

I can't see Taurean stability in her either. She is very laissez-faire, no forcing, no aggression, no dominance. I really do wonder. But yeah, placements in the 12th would make sense. Would that make her really soft?

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posted July 25, 2019 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
The birth time is most probably wrong. I just put 12 pm cause that's in the middle lol.
That's why I m wondering what ascendant she has to have in order to make her so ...limp I wanna say.

I can't see Taurean stability in her either. She is very laissez-faire, no forcing, no aggression, no dominance. I really do wonder. But yeah, placements in the 12th would make sense. Would that make her really soft?


i've known some lazy, passive taureans whose idea of stability is just doing the same thing they hate day in and day out without changing it even if it's unhealthy + alcohol

all her aries placements in the 12th could do that, so could venus on or near her ascendant and then with a taurus ascendant she'd also likely have chiron in the 1st which could be causing some of those issues too


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posted July 25, 2019 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
I don't think she does that. People used to call her "sleeping pill" in school.
I just wonder whether houses are so much more powerful than signs, because she really doesn't embody either Aries nor Scorpio. Two signs, that are very strong in her chart.


I'm an Aries with Scorpio rising. I was very quiet in school, due to being bullied, and eventually dropped out.

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posted July 25, 2019 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by kani:
[b] I don't think she does that. People used to call her "sleeping pill" in school.
I just wonder whether houses are so much more powerful than signs, because she really doesn't embody either Aries nor Scorpio. Two signs, that are very strong in her chart.


I'm an Aries with Scorpio rising. I was very quiet in school, due to being bullied, and eventually dropped out. [/B][/QUOTE]


Sorry to hear that.

She was never bullied. Never had issues with people in general because she wasn't confrontational or sneaky at all

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posted July 25, 2019 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i've known some lazy, passive taureans whose idea of stability is just doing the same thing they hate day in and day out without changing it even if it's unhealthy + alcohol

all her aries placements in the 12th could do that, so could venus on or near her ascendant and then with a taurus ascendant she'd also likely have chiron in the 1st which could be causing some of those issues too


I'll give you one example about her "laid back-ness".

We used to work for the same company : I was there just for a year, she has been working there since she was 16, so a very long time. We met up for lunch one day and she told me that she got promoted without even trying for it. She was never planning to get promoted but she accepted the promotion because Why not? And this is very characteristic of her life. It feels like things always fell into her lap because she never fought for anything.

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posted July 25, 2019 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
I'll give you one example about her "laid back-ness".

We used to work for the same company : I was there just for a year, she has been working there since she was 16, so a very long time. We met up for lunch one day and she told me that she got promoted without even trying for it. She was never planning to get promoted but she accepted the promotion because Why not? And this is very characteristic of her life. It feels like things always fell into her lap because she never fought for anything.


funny i knew a taurus sun who had the same job since he was 16 well into his 20s and accepted being moved up because it was eventually thrown his way not because he had any actual interest in doing more than he did when he started

it wouldnt shock me if he still had that job just because he was used to it, he could've easily gotten another job or done something better but he was comfortable with what he had and never asked to do other things or be promoted get raises etc it was only through sheer reliability and being stuck in a routine that involved that particular work place that he got anywhere and it wasnt even a good job

he just cared about being able to go to work and afford alcohol to drink afterward, he'd also work on his days off sometimes just because he was used to going to work so it was the only place he could think to go

sometimes he'd complain, but he never tried applying anywhere else or doing anything he'd just say "i hate things in my life" then keep going, stubbornly stuck

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posted July 25, 2019 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
funny i knew a taurus sun who had the same job since he was 16 well into his 20s and accepted being moved up because it was eventually thrown his way not because he had any actual interest in doing more than he did when he started

it wouldnt shock me if he still had that job just because he was used to it, he could've easily gotten another job or done something better but he was comfortable with what he had and never asked to do other things or be promoted get raises etc it was only through sheer reliability and being stuck in a routine that involved that particular work place that he got anywhere and it wasnt even a good job

he just cared about being able to go to work and afford alcohol to drink afterward, he'd also work on his days off sometimes just because he was used to going to work so it was the only place he could think to go

sometimes he'd complain, but he never tried applying anywhere else or doing anything he'd just say "i hate things in my life" then keep going, stubbornly stuck


sounds very similar to my acquaintance. But if she has a Taurus asc she'd still have an Aries sun. Or maybe the Taurus asc with a lot of planets in the 12 would dominate her personality and override her sun sign...?

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posted July 25, 2019 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:

Sorry to hear that.

She was never bullied. Never had issues with people in general because she wasn't confrontational or sneaky at all


I wasn't confrontational or sneaky, either. I was a good kid. Friendly.

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posted July 25, 2019 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
I'll give you one example about her "laid back-ness".

We used to work for the same company : I was there just for a year, she has been working there since she was 16, so a very long time. We met up for lunch one day and she told me that she got promoted without even trying for it. She was never planning to get promoted but she accepted the promotion because Why not? And this is very characteristic of her life. It feels like things always fell into her lap because she never fought for anything.


Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Mars, all conjunct in the 10th house, and Jupiter in the third.

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posted July 25, 2019 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I wasn't confrontational or sneaky, either. I was a good kid. Friendly.

Oh I wasn't insinuating that you were. I was just stating that she didn't embody the negative traits of Aries and Scorpio. I know that it's mostly good kids who get bullied.

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posted July 25, 2019 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Mars, all conjunct in the 10th house, and Jupiter in the third.

I have only Mars in the 10th conj. sun from the 9th and I'm very far from being that laid back about work or career. I'm driven, persistent (despite periods of confusion) quick and perfectionistic.
Laid back and work doesn't go together for me 😂😂

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posted July 25, 2019 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
sounds very similar to my acquaintance. But if she has a Taurus asc she'd still have an Aries sun. Or maybe the Taurus asc with a lot of planets in the 12 would dominate her personality and override her sun sign...?


putting a lot of planets in the 12th would really alter the expression of them, a 12th house sun mars etc is going to be muted

seeing her would probably help but im really betting on a taurus ascendant

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posted July 25, 2019 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I missed that this was a noon chart, but Venus in the 10th still stands out to me, for things like that coming easily to her.

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posted July 25, 2019 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
putting a lot of planets in the 12th would really alter the expression of them, a 12th house sun mars etc is going to be muted

seeing her would probably help but im really betting on a taurus ascendant


I sent you 2 pics to your Discord

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posted July 25, 2019 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Oh, I missed that this was a noon chart, but Venus in the 10th still stands out to me, for things like that coming easily to her.

Yeah, I dont know her real birth time and Im wondering what it could be

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posted July 25, 2019 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
I don't think she does that. People used to call her "sleeping pill" in school.
I just wonder whether houses are so much more powerful than signs, because she really doesn't embody either Aries nor Scorpio. Two signs, that are very strong in her chart.

Maybe the houses are a lot more powerful than people really give credit for. I know people who don’t fit their chart and I wonder why, but since I don’t know their birthtime I can get the full picture so maybe the house placements make a big difference. I know some people born the same day month and year as me and its amazing how different we are.

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posted July 25, 2019 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Maybe the houses are a lot more powerful than people really give credit for. I know people who don’t fit their chart and I wonder why, but since I don’t know their birthtime I can get the full picture so maybe the house placements make a big difference. I know some people born the same day month and year as me and its amazing how different we are.


I think the same!
My boyfriends brother is born a day before me. We have all planets in the same sign, including the moon but a different ascendant.
We are very very different!

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