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Selenite
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posted July 25, 2019 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whether it's romantic love, creative drive, creative partnerships, or self-love, love is in the air, so get out and look for it~

august starts with the new moon aligned with venus in leo then throughout the month venus aligns with mars / sun / juno, traveling through leo and into the beginning of virgo (my mars )

i know i'm excited because it'll pass through my 1st and conjunct my mars during my mars return...

solar returns for august what's up??? get ready for a steamy year ahead

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posted July 25, 2019 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, it will go through my 4th and 5th house. In the Draconic, the positions will run through my Draconic 7th.

Hopefully all this interaction happens after the Leo 20 Degree 5th house beginner mark(as that is consistently my romance point indicator barring a Venus in Pisces transit). Nothing happens for me romantically when planets are in Libra

I will look out for it

On a sidenote: I am starting to believe that Juno is the "angry" spouse and subsequent retaliation energy to threats of external interference to a relationship and/ or marriage.

I really don't think Juno has anything to do with romance. Its more about "possession" and rage due to broken "promises" of honoring and obeying etc. I reached this epiphany when I was watching "Cheaters".

But this is for a discussion at another time in another thread

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hypatia238
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posted July 25, 2019 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting! What is on my mind is having a baby, I feel all this love I have to give would be better invested on a family instead of chasing after romance, I think a baby would put my restlessness to better use and everyone always says I would be an excellent mother. My Solar Return this year has my Venus conjunct Mars in Leo in the 8th and Venus rules my 5th and 10th and Mars my IC right on my Solar Return AC so is like my Venus conjunct Mars in Leo are highlighted strongly. Also my SR moon will be right on my northnode exact.

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posted July 25, 2019 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe it will be better than july was for me then, july sucked

broke things off with my fiancee and she's being a trainwreck and i worry about her, still friends

then had the worst date ever when retrograde saturn squared my venus exact on tuesday with a guy who definitely still wants me but if its even half as much as he did when i spent the night with him on tuesday then he likes me more than i want anyone to ever (lot of pluto in the synastry and he has a scorpio mars)

@Aries23degrees

curious about your views on juno, i have it square my sun conjunct saturn

my descendant has karma (retrograde), vesta (retrograde, this one is exact on my moon), and eris on it to make life more fun and add to my venus trine chiron aspect too

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posted July 30, 2019 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Dumuzi

I read many online articles on Juno. Some arguments stating Juno as being the "soul-mate" aspect because of its link to marriage.

I disagree with this as I think Moon-Sun is soul(Sun) mate(Moon). This especially the tight orb double whammy(included herein is the Draconic chart)

" Soul mates" are to me the people that reflect (Moon) back to you whom you are from a soul level(Sun). When people go beyond Sun/Moon in their "soul-mate" philosophy,I don't follow.

And secondly, we all know that its not always our "soul-mates" that we marry. In that we don't always marry when we feel "complete" but rather when we are looking for "completion".

Sun/Moon is about self-completion and being with someone whom is your equal. A "soulmate" is a person who is your "mate" as a complete person and not the one who "completes" the puzzle. So you can have more than one soul-mate throughout your life-depending on where you are on a soul level.

But I do understand that from our current school of thought, a soul mate is someone whom "completes you And so Juno is that partner whom people see as "lucky" to have found etc.

This especially when Juno forms tight aspects to Sun/Moon. Then we can be ever convinced that the person is indeed our "soul mate". Its great when we are complete as individuals and the person is indeed a "mate".

It is a problem however when we are not complete as people and therefore expect the Juno person to live u to ideals we project on them. Very slippery slope.

Then I read others that linked Juno to infidelity( the sexist and biased point of view being that Juno rules mistresses).

I agree with this view and extended this to men.In that Juno also rules men who interfere with partnerships or marriages.

Juno to me represents the extent to which one identifies with partnerships/marriage as part in parcel of their security blanket(Taurus) or emotional well-being(Cancer).

In a way this links to marriage(true)but not in the "I love you" way like Libra. But much rather in a way that "binds" the person to the agreement to "love" and "cherish" another that you made that statement to.

So there is bondage/links/contracts and obligations with Juno. And this gives it a more Saturnine nature as well.Juno in Cap/Sco is the most likely to take the promise of "till death do us part" quite literally.

And so where does infedility come in? My view is that Juno interacting with the natives love planets Venus /Mars as well as outer planets Uranus, Jupiter, Neptune means that the native may have to deal with issues of infidelity and/or extra marital affairs lot.

Its either the native "dishonors" the relationship and exposes the partner to the external party/parties.Or the native suffers this consequence from the spouse.

Its still a work in progress. It came to me when I was watching "Cheaters" and concluded that Juno definitely has a Martian nature of protectiveness about their turf(Taurus)or the person they are attached to(Cancer).

So when I read that Juno was(in mythology) the type to go after Zeus'/Jupiter's (her husband)mistresses and nymphs with a momentum of anger, I wondered if there could be a link?

Juno would then represent that one very important or highly significant partnership/marriage or alliance that you are definitely not indifferent to. And that which you would probably stand to "lose"(Scorpio) a lot from should it be dissolved.There is just too much at stake.

This is especially the case when Juno is in Taurus, Can, Leo,Virgo,Scorpio, Cap. For the rest, the agreement tends to not be a big deal(barring contradictory aspects)

Prince Charles-who is world renowned for his affair with Camila Parker Bowles throughout his marriage to Diana has Juno in "I will do what I want" Aries

Aries is not a great placement for Juno as Mars ruled Aries is a sure fire indicator of trouble and strife in contractual obligations(Juno). One tends to do "spur of the moment" things that undermine the alliance or takes unilateral decisions.

Is Uranus in aspect? Yes. This exacerbates Juno in Aries through erratic choices and wanting complete freedom.

Is Jupiter in aspect? Yes. This makes Juno in Aries drive for unilateral decision-making BIG.

Juno in Aries is also on the Aries point.

Bill Clinton has Juno in charming Libra(ruled by Venus).Libra is also not great for Juno as Libra has a hard time saying "No" to temptation.

Firstly Mars conjuncts his natal Venus-impulsive actions in the name of lust.Drive to get more pleasure

Juno also conjuncts Jupiter.Jupiter expands this love of all things beautiful and sensual.

Juno also widely conjuncts his Chiron.His infidelity certainly hurt his public image & made him look sleazy.

Prince William. Does the apple fall far from the tree?

His Juno is in Cap. How seriously does he take his vows(Juno)? Well Saturn ruled Cap is a good placement for Juno. But lets look closer.

Saturn(Juno ruler) conjuncts Mars in Libra-Controlled sexual impulses. He will certainly keep tight lid on his indiscretions-should he wander.

Pluto also also widely conjuncts Saturn(Juno ruler). Marriage is certainly a big deal and he takes it very seriously. He will resist a divorce fiercely. But shoulf infidelity come from Kate, he will be unforgiving.

But there is that Neptune conjunct Juno widely and so I am not completely sold on the whole "upstanding moral man" thing.

Neptune on Juno could be indicative of someone who marries a saint or someone who certainly knows how to appear like one.

The other possibility is huge disappointment in marriage which will result "wandering"outside the marriage with someone who knows how to be very discreet and keep up a facade. Or atleast someone who lets him continue to live a fantasy.

And his brother? Is Harry commitment type?

Harry has Juno in dutiful Virgo. He means well and tries hard..This especially when we see that Juno conjuncts Mercury (its ruler).So Mercury largely influences his attitude towards the whole "till death" part of marriage.

The problem however is that pesky Uranus in Sag square as well as that hurtful Chiron square to Mercury.

It could be that things unexpectedly change or unravel within the commitment that ends up in a dissociation. This especially when we see Uranus widely conjunct Mars and Mars squaring Sun. He is very impulsive and has regrets actions after the fact.

The dissociation will likely hurt him in some way big. Sun/Mars harsh aspects have a sensitive ego and personalize things to a level of "all or nothing".

Will he bring the mistress or will it be Meghan? When looking at Venus in beauty loving Venus and flirtatious Mars in Sag within easy aspect, he can certainly make her feel insecure. And this may lead to sudden outbursts.

Beneath it all, he is a realist and takes his lot. If its broken, he will want to fix it. This especially with Saturn/ Moon opp(traditionalist) and Neptune/Sun square (idealist).

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posted July 30, 2019 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking that it will equate into better care for myself...I decided to start running again yesterday. I was much happier, fitter, and looked better when I ran a few miles every morning.

But my friends seem determined to make me date again and I will be going to a few big events in September. So we'll see.

Hypatia, it's interesting that you've been thinking about having a baby lately. So have I, although there's a lot that stands between me and any future pregnancy. So I've been thinking about adoption a lot.

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posted July 30, 2019 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying to watch what I eat and drink, even though it doesn't always matter, because of my stomach. I've been getting sick every day, and having to keep running to a bathroom for that is just demoralizing. It's also exhausting, and can come with other complications, apparently - I know of people who have strained their heart from getting sick (people with the same problem that I have).

I don't have any food or drink that's 100% safe, but it's mainly going to be soup for me. I need to try to avoid giving in to cravings.

July always seems to suck for me, over the years it's seen death more than once, accidents, illness, etc. The beginning of August can be more argumentative, and now I think I see why: the Sun squaring my Uranus/ascendant. And someone being at odds with me, in some way. Or me just feeling sensitive. Things usually get better as the month goes on.

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Somna7H
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posted July 30, 2019 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is the Love ?

It's happening in my 4th House and near my IC. IC 15° in Leo.

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Hikaru29
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posted July 31, 2019 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curious what it will bring? The transiting planets will sweep through my empty 3rd house trine/sextile my natal Moon/Venus ending at my IC within the 1st deg of Virgo.

@Dumuzi,
I read that some couples break up during Mercury Rx but may change their minds when it goes direct.

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Dumuzi
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posted July 31, 2019 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Curious what it will bring? The transiting planets will sweep through my empty 3rd house trine/sextile my natal Moon/Venus ending at my IC within the 1st deg of Virgo.

@Dumuzi,
I read that some couples break up during Mercury Rx but may change their minds when it goes direct.


i've heard that too, guess we'll see though it's complicated really can't get back only to have it be the same situation

she needs to realize some **** about her whims, mood swings, tantrums, destructive behavior etc and get help too because without that it's an endless cycle of being on a roller coaster with her

i love her, but there's a lot of issues there so i'm really unsure of what i actually want with that tbh


@Aries23degrees

interesting points, i always thought juno seemed like a **** but yeah most descriptions dont acknowledge that side of it

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posted July 31, 2019 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@dumuzi

oof that sounds like a bad time, it can definitely get creepy when that intensity is unreciprocated but as a plutonian myself, i can certainly say that it's possible for someone to come on VERY strong and not actually be creepy... like it may seem like we want you too much but that's how we are with everything and we could probably be without anything or anyone for the rest of our lives and be okay. lol
it's just fun to go all out with love sometimes. life's too short.

@stubbornvirgo
that's good to hear about taking care of yourself... i've started to do that too, just came on very naturally. i was on a mini tour with my band and drinking like 10 drinks in one sitting (and i'm 100 lbs), not sleeping, eating like crap, smoking cigs, doing any drug i could get my hands on, and then i was like you know what??? this is really not necessary! lol


@teasel --- i really hope you don't strain your heart form getting sick you've probably heard this a thousand times but drink ginger / turmeric shots!!

i work at a natural cafe and out of all the new age BS potions and herbs, tinctures that we sell to heal, i will swear on my life that ginger root and turmeric are the only things you need for issues like that. and they're not things you need to take every day to see small results, sh*t's effective immediately.

@somna
the love is right on your soul apparently! and hey my ASC is 16 Leo!! you're probably gonna feel really at peace with yourself for a while. treat yourself...

@hikaru
that sounds like a time for having a lot of fun with friends and feeling really content, the good life. i think it stays into virgo for a bit too so you'll get some 4th house love. maybe many outings or neighborhood activities and home life contentness. definintely inspiring for creative projects / poetry if that's your thing!

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posted July 31, 2019 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
@dumuzi

oof that sounds like a bad time, it can definitely get creepy when that intensity is unreciprocated but as a plutonian myself, i can certainly say that it's possible for someone to come on VERY strong and not actually be creepy... like it may seem like we want you too much but that's how we are with everything and we could probably be without anything or anyone for the rest of our lives and be okay. lol
it's just fun to go all out with love sometimes. life's too short.

@stubbornvirgo
that's good to hear about taking care of yourself... i've started to do that too, just came on very naturally. i was on a mini tour with my band and drinking like 10 drinks in one sitting (and i'm 100 lbs), not sleeping, eating like crap, smoking cigs, doing any drug i could get my hands on, and then i was like you know what??? this is really not necessary! lol


@teasel --- i really hope you don't strain your heart form getting sick you've probably heard this a thousand times but drink ginger / turmeric shots!!

i work at a natural cafe and out of all the new age BS potions and herbs, tinctures that we sell to heal, i will swear on my life that ginger root and turmeric are the only things you need for issues like that. and they're not things you need to take every day to see small results, sh*t's effective immediately.

@somna
the love is right on your soul apparently! and hey my ASC is 16 Leo!! you're probably gonna feel really at peace with yourself for a while. treat yourself...

@hikaru
that sounds like a time for having a lot of fun with friends and feeling really content, the good life. i think it stays into virgo for a bit too so you'll get some 4th house love. maybe many outings or neighborhood activities and home life contentness. definintely inspiring for creative projects / poetry if that's your thing!


it went to a not good place i promise lol just trust me on that one and i know how plutonians are my ex fiancee was one and i was with her for almost 15 years and she had a crush on me for 4 years before we started even dating trust me i understand

i also have a first house pluto (libra ascendant though, with venus in libra conjunct so that probably outweighs it) and sun sextile pluto myself

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posted July 31, 2019 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
it went to a not good place i promise lol just trust me on that one and i know how plutonians are my ex fiancee was one and i was with her for almost 15 years and she had a crush on me for 4 years before we started even dating trust me i understand

i also have a first house pluto (libra ascendant though, with venus in libra conjunct so that probably outweighs it) and sun sextile pluto myself


oh it does not outweigh it just makes it seem sweeter lol
aw that's sweet i hope you work things out. i'm glad you're making her check herself... that's very soul-matey of you. hope she grows up a bit and comes around.

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posted August 01, 2019 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
whether it's romantic love, creative drive, creative partnerships, or self-love, love is in the air, so get out and look for it~

august starts with the new moon aligned with venus in leo then throughout the month venus aligns with mars / sun / juno, traveling through leo and into the beginning of virgo (my mars )

i know i'm excited because it'll pass through my 1st and conjunct my mars during my mars return...

solar returns for august what's up??? get ready for a steamy year ahead


What makes this a "love" transit?

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posted August 01, 2019 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
oh it does not outweigh it just makes it seem sweeter lol
aw that's sweet i hope you work things out. i'm glad you're making her check herself... that's very soul-matey of you. hope she grows up a bit and comes around.

well i did occult blood ritual bind myself to her a million times over the past few years so there's that lol

and as for this months solar returns mine should be interesting since venus, and mars are going to be conjuncting my sun (but all squaring my solar return moon, trine uranus though) and i have my solar return north node on my solar return midheaven (which isn't too far off from my actual midheaven, my angles are almost the same this year) pretty sure mercury is on my mercury

saturn and pluto near the ic (they're there anyway for me) etc

i've got uranus in my 7th well aspected (but it's still uranus)

moon in the 8th though that should be fun (and at 29 degrees taurus too) but that's where my progressed moon only recently got out of there so maybe i won't really notice much

edit: i thought i'd check because i had a feeling it would be there, my solar return part of fortune is also conjunct my solar return midheaven

being lazy and not really linking this, but this is my solar return for this year

https://imgur.com/a/QIkSMDd

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posted August 01, 2019 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:
@hikaru
that sounds like a time for having a lot of fun with friends and feeling really content, the good life. i think it stays into virgo for a bit too so you'll get some 4th house love. maybe many outings or neighborhood activities and home life contentness. definintely inspiring for creative projects / poetry if that's your thing!

Maybe it's a good time to update my blog!
I actually have been having a good time with friends and making new ones (SR Mars in 5th house conjunct my natal Venus).

quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
she needs to realize some **** about her whims, mood swings, tantrums, destructive behavior etc and get help too because without that it's an endless cycle of being on a roller coaster with her

i love her, but there's a lot of issues there so i'm really unsure of what i actually want with that tbh


Sometimes it's good to step back. Sounds like she needs to figure things out on her own. She probably has become too dependent on you and taking you for granted. I hope she comes around...

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posted August 01, 2019 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Sometimes it's good to step back. Sounds like she needs to figure things out on her own. She probably has become too dependent on you and taking you for granted. I hope she comes around...

time will tell though i hope she at least gets her **** asap if she doesn't

she left everything really important to her here and a bunch of other **** , she came by twice to get **** too

she mentioned some of it a couple of days ago, but only to ask me to not destroy it, which ****** me off i've never destroyed any of her **** even when i've been ******

that's something she does and has done to me though, she apologized when i asked her who the **** she thought she was talking to because i've never behaved like that, but yeah that's the most she's said about it

i've already told her to pick it all up, but she's really ******* taking her time

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posted August 04, 2019 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
time will tell though i hope she at least gets her **** asap if she doesn't

she left everything really important to her here and a bunch of other **** , she came by twice to get **** too

she mentioned some of it a couple of days ago, but only to ask me to not destroy it, which ****** me off i've never destroyed any of her **** even when i've been ******

that's something she does and has done to me though, she apologized when i asked her who the **** she thought she was talking to because i've never behaved like that, but yeah that's the most she's said about it

i've already told her to pick it all up, but she's really ******* taking her time


It sounds to me like she doesn't wanna leave.

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posted August 04, 2019 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
It sounds to me like she doesn't wanna leave.

i'm not sure how you get that from the current situation, but honestly if her doing that is some sort of manipulative way of keeping her options open it's really ******* backwards and stupid

i could do without the games and crazy ********

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posted August 04, 2019 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i'm not sure how you get that from the current situation, but honestly if her doing that is some sort of manipulative way of keeping her options open it's really ******* backwards and stupid

i could do without the games and crazy ********


Because you said she's taking her time to get her things which to me is a sign she's dragging this out, unless she has a good reason (e.g. storage issue at her new residence).

Cos if I'm dead on leaving someone, I'll get my stuff out before he could even count to 3.

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posted August 04, 2019 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Because you said she's taking her time to get her things which to me is a sign she's dragging this out, unless she has a good reason (e.g. storage issue at her new residence).

Cos if I'm dead on leaving someone, I'll get my stuff out before he could even count to 3.


she packed stuff that was important to her and then last minute told me she wanted to keep it here because she didn't feel comfortable bringing it with her "just in case"

some **** likely is a storage issue, but the stuff she packed that i know is important to her that she could've brought she told me she felt safer with it here

it's ******* annoying is what it is though, definitely dragging it out

edit: and like i said the only time she's mentioned it was to ask me not to destroy any of it or throw it out but no mention of her having any intentions of getting it in spite of how important i know all of it is to her

we've talked since and no mention of it at all, i'd bring it up but i usually don't feel like fighting and i know she's well aware of it being here

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