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SoulOfABird
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posted July 25, 2019 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi so I have posted about my ascendent on here before. So some of you might already know my ascendent. However, Im my circumstances are a little confusing. When I ask people to guess my ascendent, people rarely guess it correctly. In fact they’ll name every other sign except the actual sign my rising is.
I wondered if it’s because of my 1st house stellium.
When someone has multiple planets in the 1st house how do they come across? As all of them? Im sure not all of them can have an influence or can they? Also who would they attract?
I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Saturn in the 1st house also an asteroid. Two of these planets rule two signs.
Sun=Leo
Mercury =Virgo, Gemini
Venus = Libra, Taurus
Saturn= Capricorn
So does that mean I come across as all those signs?
I don’t really think I come across as my rising sign. Except the fact that maybe I seem aloof and distant? But I also have a 12th house stellium so I think that’s why Im distant and keep to myself.
Anyways Im really wondering what sign I come across as based on my appearance.
Since nobody guessed my rising sign correctly.
But as mentioned I really don’t like pictures so I don’t really have any full frontal facial pics. I picked two pics that I feel show myself more. It may not be enough but I hope it at least gives you guys an idea. My rising and 1st house stellium is still a mystery to me and I don’t know what sign has more influence on how I look.


Im looking at my doggy btw lol


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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 25, 2019 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there any planet within a tight orb to the Asc point from the 12th house?

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SoulOfABird
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posted July 25, 2019 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is there any planet within a tight orb to the Asc point from the 12th house?

No not really that I know of. The closest planet to my ascendent is my venus at 9° Pisces. My Asc is 25° Aquarius

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 25, 2019 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Typically speaking, its the planet closest to the Asc.In your case Venus.

No other planet in square aspect to the Asc?

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SoulOfABird
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posted July 25, 2019 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Typically speaking, its the planet closest to the Asc.In your case Venus.

No other planet in square aspect to the Asc?


No planetary aspects to my asc 😬

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posted July 26, 2019 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you look at everything.Even declinations?

I am going to add Saturn as the big influencer here because in as much as Venus is technically "closer" to the Asc cusp,Saturn is the slowest moving planet in the first house AND enjoys traditional rulership over Aqua(your Asc)

I see that you are very photogenic.This is what Saturn can do and give amazing bone structure.

My ex is effortlessly gorgeous. But his self esteem is in the dumps. People used to want to take pics with him and he never used to understand why.

So I think in his case, Saturn in 1st strongly influenced his appearance-even as Moon was closer to the cusp. And this could be the case with you too.

Planets in 1st house also tend to give an "Aries" feel to the native. So Saturn in 7th does not have the same "feel" as Saturn in 4th or 10th etc. However I must say that Saturn on the angle tends to dominate i.e when in exact aspect or within tight orb of the Asc.

Saturn in that way influences all the angles- especially for those born with the Mc and Asc degrees within close range.

Also note that the people you ask to guess your sign are typically people who have gotten to know you. They are most likely to guess your Mars/Moon sign because of the aura or energy you give them.

The Mars/Moon sign may also be the Draconic sign they guess as the Draco is another layer interwoven into the natal.

Your Asc sign imo and contrary to popular belief, is not easily discernible after an initial meetinh. It is the energy you project instinctively when coming into uncertain or ad-hoc situations.

An example of such situations would be; an emergency crisis, an attack, going to a social gathering alone and knowing nobody there etc. Its typically always an environment where your "feelers" come out to assess how to integrate that experience into your psyche.

Do you introduce yourself to everyone at a party and start convos quickly or do you only talk to the person closest to you?

Do you enter conversations and dominate or "challenge" the speaker or do you laugh and agree with everyone on cue?

The Asc is barely discernable because it is so instinctive. And it lasts only a few moments before the Moon kicks in and takes over social relations.

The Sun is always the last energy to be known due to its more "generic" presence. If it aspects the Moon, iy comes in through being reflected by the Moon.

Most people don't guess I am Sag. They think me air or water because Moon and Mars are in water and air respectively. Even my Asc in Aries is never inferred,I get Taurus a lot(which is my Draconic Moon sign).

Once people know me deeper however, the Sun tends to dominate interactions together with its aspects the longer the relationship progresses. The Moon typically comes out in emotive or excitable moments of extremes. Not in everyday interactions.

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sleepthan
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posted July 26, 2019 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sleepthan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planets aren't signs. Absolutely none of those signs have an influence on how you look, actually (unless you have them in other areas). The planets do. If you have mars in the first you are not going to look aries-ish. You're just going to look like you have mars influence. People tend to get this mixed up; I don't know why.
You are probably right about all the planets having an effect on people guessing your rising, though. If you have venus in the first for example but have cappy rising, someone might think "capricorn rising cant be...she looks so sweet... I wonder where it comes from...". But I don't think they would confidently guess libra or taurus either in my experience. Because it's just a whole different look.

Edit: also, you *definitely* look like an aquarius rising. I have a feeling people on this forum might just not be very good at guessing ascendants lol.

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posted July 26, 2019 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
didnt you say you were ugly or some **** ? guess that insecurity saturn 1st house thing is legit in your case

ascendant can be hard to guess, especially with planets in the 1st house or aspects to the ascendant that are going to alter its expression

you don't look like the signs those planets rule, but each of those planets is going to affect you in some way and how you come across to people so that's lilely where the confusion comes in

also your moon and sun will affect your appearance too

most people are **** at guessing signs anyway tbh, i've never had anyone guess my sign right irl (i did have Plutonian2 guess nearly my entire ******* chart after talking to me on here though, that was pretty impressive, she was unsure of the sun/mercury combination but one of her guesses for that was right too)

the aquarius ascendant with saturn 1st house is probably why you come off aloof and distant because the only planets you could have 12th house wouldnt really do that

edit: my bad, if your moon is 12th house it would probably add to it

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posted July 26, 2019 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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SoulOfABird
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posted July 29, 2019 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Did you look at everything.Even declinations?

I am going to add Saturn as the big influencer here because in as much as Venus is technically "closer" to the Asc cusp,Saturn is the slowest moving planet in the first house AND enjoys traditional rulership over Aqua(your Asc)

I see that you are very photogenic.This is what Saturn can do and give amazing bone structure.

My ex is effortlessly gorgeous. But his self esteem is in the dumps. People used to want to take pics with him and he never used to understand why.

So I think in his case, Saturn in 1st strongly influenced his appearance-even as Moon was closer to the cusp. And this could be the case with you too.

Planets in 1st house also tend to give an "Aries" feel to the native. So Saturn in 7th does not have the same "feel" as Saturn in 4th or 10th etc. However I must say that Saturn on the angle tends to dominate i.e when in exact aspect or within tight orb of the Asc.

Saturn in that way influences all the angles- especially for those born with the Mc and Asc degrees within close range.

Also note that the people you ask to guess your sign are typically people who have gotten to know you. They are most likely to guess your Mars/Moon sign because of the aura or energy you give them.

The Mars/Moon sign may also be the Draconic sign they guess as the Draco is another layer interwoven into the natal.

Your Asc sign imo and contrary to popular belief, is not easily discernible after an initial meetinh. It is the energy you project instinctively when coming into uncertain or ad-hoc situations.

An example of such situations would be; an emergency crisis, an attack, going to a social gathering alone and knowing nobody there etc. Its typically always an environment where your "feelers" come out to assess how to integrate that experience into your psyche.

Do you introduce yourself to everyone at a party and start convos quickly or do you only talk to the person closest to you?

Do you enter conversations and dominate or "challenge" the speaker or do you laugh and agree with everyone on cue?

The Asc is barely discernable because it is so instinctive. And it lasts only a few moments before the Moon kicks in and takes over social relations.

The Sun is always the last energy to be known due to its more "generic" presence. If it aspects the Moon, iy comes in through being reflected by the Moon.

Most people don't guess I am Sag. They think me air or water because Moon and Mars are in water and air respectively. Even my Asc in Aries is never inferred,I get Taurus a lot(which is my Draconic Moon sign).

Once people know me deeper however, the Sun tends to dominate interactions together with its aspects the longer the relationship progresses. The Moon typically comes out in emotive or excitable moments of extremes. Not in everyday interactions.


Thank you so much for this detailed info 🙏🏼 Saturn might have a big influence on my appearance because I know that when I was younger people would always tell me I looked sad or mad about something and that I should smile more. Ive always felt self conscious and when it comes to my appearance I don’t feel good enough for myself. I have this weird look about me. You can’t really see in these pics because these ones are decent compared to others Ive taken. Usually I just feel really down when I take bad pictures of myself ans ruins my mood. Saturn in the 1st really sucks.
Also I wanted to mention that no one in real life has tried to guess my sign. Most people I know don’t follow astrology and I don’t talk about it with anyone. The guesses have come from the internet and most people get the wrong impression of me. They rarely guess my rising or even sun sign correctly. Usually it’s Scorpio or Sagittarius and it’s strange because I hardly have any of those signs influence my chart much.
I think my aura in pics is different from real life cause people close to me usually say Im typical of my sign (Pisces) that it fits me. But really I think I have a little bit of every sign in me lol The way people describe me is usually typical Pisces traits I think. I think Im kind of typically feminine despite having a masculine moon and rising. I think that’s my Venus in the 1st house influence... My chart is dominated by Pisces and Aquarius but people online pick up those signs last. I should be oozing those two signs I got a stellium in both lol

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SoulOfABird
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posted July 29, 2019 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
didnt you say you were ugly or some **** ? guess that insecurity saturn 1st house thing is legit in your case

ascendant can be hard to guess, especially with planets in the 1st house or aspects to the ascendant that are going to alter its expression

you don't look like the signs those planets rule, but each of those planets is going to affect you in some way and how you come across to people so that's lilely where the confusion comes in

also your moon and sun will affect your appearance too

most people are **** at guessing signs anyway tbh, i've never had anyone guess my sign right irl (i did have Plutonian2 guess nearly my entire ******* chart after talking to me on here though, that was pretty impressive, she was unsure of the sun/mercury combination but one of her guesses for that was right too)

the aquarius ascendant with saturn 1st house is probably why you come off aloof and distant because the only planets you could have 12th house wouldnt really do that

edit: my bad, if your moon is 12th house it would probably add to it


Yeah Im not super confident in my appearance honestly. Sometimes I am when I have a good makeup and haur day I really feel good about my appearance then it’s all fun and games until someone snaps a pic of me and my confidence goes down to 0 again. Don’t ask me why now and then I still try to take pics of myself. I took this pic last week sometime and I got lucky that I came out decent. Maybe cause it looks more natural since I was trying to be more in a natural pose with my dog son 😂

Oh but yes I think I come off aloof to people. I think I seem stand-offish maybe even stuck up but Iswear Im not Im just reserved and not social.
My moon is in the same sign as my rising so it’s even more strange people don’t usually guess Aquarius haha but it is in the 12th house. Along with my rising ruler, Uranus, Jupiter,, and Neptune in the 12th house.
I wonder if having the rising signs ruler in the 12th house kind of mutes it..

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posted July 29, 2019 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sleepthan:
Planets aren't signs. Absolutely none of those signs have an influence on how you look, actually (unless you have them in other areas). The planets do. If you have mars in the first you are not going to look aries-ish. You're just going to look like you have mars influence. People tend to get this mixed up; I don't know why.
You are probably right about all the planets having an effect on people guessing your rising, though. If you have venus in the first for example but have cappy rising, someone might think "capricorn rising cant be...she looks so sweet... I wonder where it comes from...". But I don't think they would confidently guess libra or taurus either in my experience. Because it's just a whole different look.

Edit: also, you *definitely* look like an aquarius rising. I have a feeling people on this forum might just not be very good at guessing ascendants lol.


You’re the first person to say I look like an Aquarius rising! Lol sometimes I don’t mention my rising sign right away because people will see it no matter what sign it is. It wasnt til a couple years ago that I found my real birthtime. The whole time I thought I was an Aries rising but it didn’t feel right to me. So I asked on a forun if I looked like an Aries rising because I don’t feel like one, and they said yes. But Im actually not but I think their guesses would have been different if I didn’t mention what my rising sign was 😂
I think I do look like some Aquarius risings because I have an oval face and straightish nose and I notice a lot of Aquarius rising celebrities have these traits. But Im not social or dress unique or stand out like a typical Aquarius rising I think. My personality is different from the description but I can’t ever know how I come across.

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posted July 29, 2019 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do I check chart declinations?

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posted July 29, 2019 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
How do I check chart declinations?

You can dowload a declination ephemeris on astro.
com for the year you were born and then look for your month. Below that Monthly ephemeris are declinations.

I wanted to add that being very critical of ones looks or avoiding selfies etc. is very much a Saturn thing. With Saturn in your 1st, you don't give your appearance much credence.

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