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Topic: Does been in a relationship make you feel trapped?
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11903 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 03, 2019 06:59 PM
Like you want to be in one but once you are in one you are always trying to end it or thinking about ending it and become very restless even in the cases were you feel deeply in love this still happens and plays out....I have always been this way, I have never not been this way. Its a freaking curse... DC in gemini Mercury in Virgo RX Mercury in the 9th house!
What is your DC and DC ruler doing in your chart?
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 7647 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted August 03, 2019 07:12 PM
I personally don't have this dilemma and never had it because I only get in a relationship if I am head over heels in love, otherwise I don't get sucked into a tie with another, needs to be a vey strong pull. If I am only mildly attracted, I don't invest my energy at all, its basically nothing, a flat line. I never do the "give it a try" thing, I already know it if I want it or not.And I don't even label it a relationship but once we connect on that level, its just that deep need to be in each other presence that drives it into a relationship or whatever it is called, it's very magnetic and intoxicating. Its like unbearable not to be together so it results in a union regardless. I have strong Neptune in my chart and chart ruler and Venus in the 8th. I also have strong Mercury in my chart located in my 7th house (also it rules my DC) so my person would have checked a long list of requirements hence clicking the final button. It does not happen often. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11903 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 03, 2019 07:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: I personally don't have this dilemma and never had it because I only get in a relationship if I am head over heels in love, otherwise I don't get sucked into a tie with another, needs to be a vey strong pull. If I am only mildly attracted, I don't invest my energy at all, its basically nothing, a flat line. I never do the "give it a try" thing, I already know it if I want it or not.And I don't even label it a relationship but once we connect on that level, its just that deep need to be in each other presence that drives it into a relationship or whatever it is called, it's very magnetic and intoxicating. Its like unbearable not to be together so it results in a union regradless. I have strong Neptune in my chart and chart ruler and Venus in the 8th. I also have strong Virgo Mercury in my chart located in my 7th house (also it rules my DC) so my person would have checked a long list of requirements hence clicking the final button.
I have gotten involved in relationship were I was head over hills (with my ex) and the pull was magnetic even a decade later and like you I know when I want someone but wanting someone and committing to be in a long term relationship are different things and you DONT LIVE with your boyfriend, it sounds like you don't move in so that makes a huge a difference. Your mercury rules your DC and falls in the 7th, that would make you better at commitment than me, my DC ruler falls in the 9th and trust me that makes you restless. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11903 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 03, 2019 07:25 PM
^Also in addition to my DC ruler falling in the 9th house my chart ruler is jupiter conjunct exact Uranus so I have a strong desire to feel free! that doesn't help either.I think I need like a best friend who is my lover but is a long term arrangement and we hang out weekly and we don't live together but we travel and go on road trips and are basically boyfriend and girlfriend without the label. I think that is probably the ideal arrangement for me. I wasn't born to be a wife, I am suppose to be free. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7647 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted August 03, 2019 07:27 PM
yes, you are absolutely right. Just writing " committing to a long term relationship" gave me a rash. I don't want to promise anything for a decade ahead. But I am going to be totally committed for the time being and I will not have doubts about it because I already know that I love to be with my person, in fact I need to be with them. For the time being. No promises for next year or a life time. But for now I am all in, no doubts or fears or question marks.p.s. My DC ruler conjuncts Pluto in my 7th house at 0 degree so I am like all in or not at all. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11903 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 03, 2019 07:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: yes, you are absolutely right. Just writing " committing to a long term relationship" gave me a rash. I don't want to promise anything for a decade ahead. But I am going to be totally committed for the time being and I will not have doubts about it because I already know that I love to be with my person, in fact I need to be with them. For the time being. No promises for next year or a life time. But for now I am all in, no doubts or fears or question marks.p.s. My DC ruler conjuncts Pluto in my 7th house at 0 degree so I am like all in or not at all.
I get what you mean! I like your style. I can relate so much to what you said about over a decade. I feel that I tend to want to end things after it reaches a decade in a more permanent way. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7647 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted August 03, 2019 07:42 PM
forgot to add that I do not want to move in or live with someone. I am a picky Vigo gal and I need my space. They can stay overnight or a few nights but that's all I can give. Heck, they can stay every night if it comes to it as long as they have their own place somewhere and I know I am not being trapped with someone who has no other place to go. I am also an Empath so other's people energy in close proximity to me, especially while sleeping is a huge distractor, I cant fall asleep if I feel/hear someone else's breathing in my ear, and snoring is out of question due to noise and ugly sighting. I have Pluto and Uranus in my 7th house.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 7203 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 03, 2019 08:57 PM
Nope, can't promise a decade or marriage, but I don't think of ending it, hell I've never really ended any relationships, they wanted out, and I left after that. I don't believe in making promises and vows and all that crap tho, been with those who made it and sooner or later they forgot about it, and thats usually the "See?? " moment for me ~ Hell Om a lot younger than you tho, so lets see.. lolBut then again Om a Taurus DSC, Ruler Venus in 5th . Nothing in 7th, just SN, which is opposite Pluto so I seem to keep getting into relationships with people who have planets either near my NN or SN . IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 420 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted August 03, 2019 09:08 PM
This always happens to me, unaspected uranus in the 7th. I'm terrified to get into a committed relationship but yet I yearn for that deep connection. I'm currently in a relationship that started really fast, the pull was too strong and now I'm doing the hot and cold thing where I desperately want my own space and freedom but I don't want to be alone either... WTF!? Where is uranus in your chart? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11903 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 03, 2019 11:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Nope, can't promise a decade or marriage, but I don't think of ending it, hell I've never really ended any relationships, they wanted out, and I left after that. I don't believe in making promises and vows and all that crap tho, been with those who made it and sooner or later they forgot about it, and thats usually the "See?? " moment for me ~ Hell Om a lot younger than you tho, so lets see.. lolBut then again Om a Taurus DSC, Ruler Venus in 5th . Nothing in 7th, just SN, which is opposite Pluto so I seem to keep getting into relationships with people who have planets either near my NN or SN .
And how old are you?
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11903 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 03, 2019 11:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dons2angelss: This always happens to me, unaspected uranus in the 7th. I'm terrified to get into a committed relationship but yet I yearn for that deep connection. I'm currently in a relationship that started really fast, the pull was too strong and now I'm doing the hot and cold thing where I desperately want my own space and freedom but I don't want to be alone either... WTF!? Where is uranus in your chart?
I think it can be explained very well by the aspects I mentioned. As for Uranus I have Jupiter as my chart ruler conjunct exact Uranus both in Sagittarius at 5 degrees. I also have Venus Sentagon Jupiter and Uranus. The sentagon is a 100 degree aspect but is used more in predictive astrology. Now perhaps this also plays a role, my draco Uranus is in Virgo at 16d00 which would conjunct my tropic Mercury in Virgo at 17d12 which is my DC ruler as mentioned before and falls in my 9th squaring my nodes. Then add my draco Juno is in aquarius and I have jupiter conjunct uranus inconjunct Juno. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 12322 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2019 12:52 AM
An LL friend I've known since 2002, just posted this link to her FB page - this is a friend of hers who is happily in a relationship, because they don't live in the same house. <A HREF="http://www.wsj.com/articles/more-older-couples-stay-together-because-they-live-apart-11564311602?mod=e2fb&fbclid=IwAR0rYANiHsQ6IMmtTpdIOYm4hwfIRVx2siPXcAXEL5OzcWjYct0p-kaq7UA " TARGET=_blank>http://www.wsj.com/articles/more-older-couples-stay-together-because-they-live-apart-11564311602?mod=e2fb&fbclid=IwAR0rYANiHsQ6IMmtTpdIOYm4hwfIRVx2siPXcAXEL5OzcWjY ct0p-kaq7UA[/URL]</A> I don't know what's wrong with the link. I could read the whole thing when I posted it. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 12322 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2019 01:54 AM
I'm not sure what I would want. I guess I'll report back if it ever happens. My descendant is Taurus, and I think I would want to live in the same house, but I'm not sure. I tend to get attached to people who aren't here, unless it's my own family, or family friends (or internet friends who don't live that far away). I also don't know how I'd get used to someone else, after being single for so long. I have Uranus conjunct my ascendant, and it aspects a lot of my chart, so I'd need to be with someone who doesn't need to be attached at the hip. I used to be acquainted with a couple who were very happy when they were long-distance. Once they were in the same country and able to live together for more than a few months, adding in a baby they both wanted, they broke up (about two years after he was able to move to her country). I also am acquainted with a man who mainly dated younger women, and said he would never get married. Well, he's now with a woman close to his age, and they are very happily married. They are joined at the hip. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7518 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 04, 2019 02:21 AM
I think that its the 7th house placement which disempowers tbh.As it can easily create dependency which(over time) ties the native to obligations and exposes them to the constant "maintainence" work of pleasing others.So all relationships are in effect a "trap". One must just choose the "trap" they can stane.And I think planets in 7th(and perhaps 5th house in Libra/Venus or Taurus) tend to make us more dependent. Also possible is when the Ic/2nd house ruler is in the 7th, has Venus there or is ruled by Venus. Or the ruler of the 7th is in the 2nd/Ic and perhaps Venus in 2nd or on the Ic. Venus in Taurus Venus in Libra Moon in Libra With the aforementioned,the native can be vulnerable to the peaks & troughs of being with a partner. That is a prison too as dependency is disempowerment when taken too far. The ones that insist ln maintaining independence can be saved from this constant need to "please". They may look at relationships as something "separate" from them and not something inextricably combined with their being(provided that the mentioned planets do not rule or are nowhere near the 2nd house or 4th house) Pluto in 7th/Scorpio 7th Neptune in 7th/Pisces 7th Uranus in 7th/Aqua 7th Saturn in 7th/Capricorn 7th Jupiter in 7th/Sag 7th Mars in 7th/Aries 7th Mercury in 7th/Virgo or Gemini 7th IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 7203 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 04, 2019 02:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: And how old are you?
25!....25! IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 735 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 04, 2019 04:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: ^Also in addition to my DC ruler falling in the 9th house my chart ruler is jupiter conjunct exact Uranus so I have a strong desire to feel free! that doesn't help either.I think I need like a best friend who is my lover but is a long term arrangement and we hang out weekly and we don't live together but we travel and go on road trips and are basically boyfriend and girlfriend without the label. I think that is probably the ideal arrangement for me. I wasn't born to be a wife, I am suppose to be free.
That's basically what I have, only that my boyfriend (it still feels weird calling him my bf even after 4,5 years) and I live in different cities and sometimes see each other only once a month (but then for a week or so). We talk everyday though, we laugh a lot (we do argue as well) and we go on trips together
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Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 1919 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted August 04, 2019 08:51 AM
I'm like Orange as in I don't get into a r/s unless there's a very strong pull, and when I'm in, I'm in. So I don't get the trapped feeling. Yeah, sure, I need my space... I wanna still be able to hang out with friends or do my own stuff but mostly I wanna be with him and doing things with him. I've Dsc in Sag Jupiter in Aries 11H trine 7H Moon/Neptune Jupiter sextile Asc, square 2H Saturn, opp 5H Pluto
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11903 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 04, 2019 03:16 PM
TBF I don't regret getting married, its complicated and I am complicated (wish I wans't) and if I end up getting a divorce I will not see my marriage as a failure, I will walk away not regretting my marriage. He is a part of me and has been a big part of my journey and we were meant to get married. This marriage definitely supported my need for adventure and to expand my mind and world in line with my DC ruler falling in the 9th.The day we got Married: Tr Juno conjuncted his Jupiter exact Tr Jupiter conjuncted my Juno exact Tr Isis was conjunct Tr Osiris on his Northnode and my Valentine. Tr Northnode was on my AC exact, Tr Southnode on my DC exact. Tr Northnode was conjunct exact our composite chart Ruler. Tr Venus was conjuncting my Isis which septiles my Osiris and was basically activating my Chart ruler's Septile series.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 12322 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2019 05:28 PM
I keep thinking about this, because I've only ever lived with family, and that hasn't always been good (to put it mildly). I really don't know how I would adjust to another person living under the same roof, and I'd be nervous about them possibly being annoyed by me.I can't even handle visitors that often. I need my space, I have my own habits, I'm messy, and I watch too much TV. I'm not even in a relationship, and the thought is making me nervous. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 114812 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2019 01:41 PM
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Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1864 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 10, 2019 12:12 AM
yes, then i take a step back and realize how much we're constantly growing together, and wonder what i'd be like without him, and then i shut that voice right up.dc aqua with saturn in the 7th trine venus, uranus in the 6th conjunct neptune square moon IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1298 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted August 10, 2019 07:48 AM
I like relationships but I don't need one to feel whole. I view a long term relationship (if with the right person) as spending forever with your best friend. That's not scary to me. If you find someone who respects you, who you admire, who brings the best out of you, who you can talk to for hours, and who you can always depend on.. why not? Now, I do have to still have Independence and my own life in a relationship. I can not be with someone who needs to be around me 24/7. My ideal partner respects this and is the same way. Aries Venus-Mars conjunct in 9th house Trine Uranus 7th house Aqua with Jupiter on the cusp IP: Logged |
pocketrocket Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Italy Registered: May 2017
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posted August 10, 2019 12:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: TBF I don't regret getting married, its complicated and I am complicated (wish I wans't) and if I end up getting a divorce I will not see my marriage as a failure, I will walk away not regretting my marriage. He is a part of me and has been a big part of my journey and we were meant to get married.
Wish that ppl could consider marriage in this manner. Like your attitude. I am Canc sun 7th, also DC gem, but my sun is intercepted. I would like to have a stable partnership, but truth is that I subconsciously from anything serous. I know myself how subordinate I am and so many times I've lost my integrity. Still didn't learn.... or came across partner with whom I will grow. One more thing.. when im in some rl, it's like I lose a piece of my calm and peace. Some crazy shT are going and happening to me. Like I cannot be happy in love. Maybe the Ve90SA thing.. I feel better when I like someone, have fantasy about someone.. something is going on but not too serious. If it's temporary - that's the most satisfying situation. So, I always must put some obstacle that will make our rl without any future and then only I can enjoy. It's called selfsabotage
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WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 164 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 10, 2019 01:53 PM
No! Being in a relationship makes me feel free. I'm Cáncer Sun, Scorpio Moon,Cáncer Mercury, Taurus Venus, Virgo Mars IP: Logged |