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ChildofVenus
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posted August 04, 2019 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes I feel like my life would be more peaceful if I weren't around my parents. Having these aspects in my natal chart have something to do with it. Would I actually be better off without them?

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posted August 04, 2019 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Sometimes I feel like my life would be more peaceful if I weren't around my parents. Having these aspects in my natal chart have something to do with it. Would I actually be better off without them?

I have that aspect and the relationship with my parents improved a lot since I moved away at 19. The physical distance really does improve things. Do you still live with them?

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posted August 04, 2019 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, everyone with sun/moon square pluto should probably make their parents "disappear" for their own sake

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posted August 04, 2019 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, why would you think that?

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posted August 04, 2019 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CoV, how old are you? If it's okay to ask.

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posted August 04, 2019 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only "sometimes" or frequently ???

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posted August 04, 2019 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Not living with" is rather different than"being without". I don't believe we ever completely get over "being without", we just learn to manage.

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posted August 04, 2019 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yes, everyone with sun/moon square pluto should probably make their parents "disappear" for their own sake

Are you serious? Or just being sarcastic?

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posted August 04, 2019 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Are you serious? Or just being sarcastic?

damn you really have to ask?

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posted August 04, 2019 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Are you serious? Or just being sarcastic?

He's being sarcastic.

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posted August 04, 2019 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
damn you really have to ask?

This cracked me up.

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posted August 04, 2019 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
damn you really have to ask?

Lol well some people really have said I’d be better off with out them in my life. I feel that they are part of the reason why I doubt myself. Because they make me feel like I’m not good enough. Or it’s like no matter what I do they aren’t satisfied. I know I’m my own enemy when it comes to self doubt. It’s hard for me Moon/Pluto and Moon/Saturn is tough.

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posted August 04, 2019 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This cracked me up.

lol now i'm wondering what i must come off like

@ChildofVenus

i said "disappear" as in "kill" though you've never heard anyone say they were going to disappear someone before?

for real though you might just need some distance, there's a lot of control issues both on your part and theirs with that aspect and a lot of damage too

that doesn't mean you have to cut them out but it could mean that you should be more wary of how far you let them in

i remember you talking about their involvement in that friend with benefits situation and the mess that caused and the discomfort you felt not being able to trust them to not say anything to the guy etc and to me that sounds like there's **** that you probably are better off keeping to yourself

i dont know all the details or reasons why you feel that way or why other people tell you that, maybe you have an extreme case where "no contact" is a thing you need to pursue but if that's not something you're comfortable with the distance is likely necessary

edit: also not good enough for who? them? were they good enough for you as parents? they have shortcomings im sure and clearly making you feel like less than is one of them, that's not something a parent should ever do to their child

so you don't need to be good enough for them, you just have to be you and if they don't accept that then that's their problem

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posted August 04, 2019 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarcasm sometimes doesn't translate well over the internet...

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posted August 04, 2019 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Dumuzi
AWESOME!!!!! you come off as awesome, don't change a thing, I enjoy getting to know you so much!

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posted August 04, 2019 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
lol now i'm wondering what i must come off like

@ChildofVenus

i said "disappear" as in "kill" though you've never heard anyone say they were going to disappear someone before?

for real though you might just need some distance, there's a lot of control issues both on your part and theirs with that aspect and a lot of damage too

that doesn't mean you have to cut them out but it could mean that you should be more wary of how far you let them in

i remember you talking about their involvement in that friend with benefits situation and the mess that caused and the discomfort you felt not being able to trust them to not say anything to the guy etc and to me that sounds like there's **** that you probably are better off keeping to yourself

i dont know all the details or reasons why you feel that way or why other people tell you that, maybe you have an extreme case where "no contact" is a thing you need to pursue but if that's not something you're comfortable with the distance is likely necessary

edit: also not good enough for who? them? were they good enough for you as parents? they have shortcomings im sure and clearly making you feel like less than is one of them, that's not something a parent should ever do to their child

so you don't need to be good enough for them, you just have to be you and if they don't accept that then that's their problem


Yeah well I can't say that I don't have certain thoughts. But yeah I know I hate that I mentioned them to my friend. That was really a bad idea I hate it and I wish I could take it back. I don't usually tell them anything. But my mom always complains about how I'm so secretive. So since I know she knows him I told her that we went out etc. And she told me how I was easy. And how the guy thinks I'm easy. And now he's running because he thinks I want to be with him after what I said. In synastry her Saturn squares my Moon so that doesn't help any. Sometimes I feel like if I just up and went away my life would be better. I'm a private person when it comes to my relations with men. But just once I decided to be open with her about it. And she, of course, she's critical of me.

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posted August 04, 2019 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think astrology will make such a difference with parents. If your parents feel toxic, you need to protect yourself.
Whether this means leaving or micro managing is up to many factors starting with your situation and intentions for the future, trust me leaving early, even though the only option, is not a free dream, the price is high.
Astrology however can help you with finding ways to communicate, or not lol and help you keep you in check.
For example if I forgot the tyrant my mother was I could remind myself her Pluto is square my venus (though honestly, it's a piece of vanilla cake in the context of our interactions).
This is about you growing up, setting boundaries (parents don't have to know about your sex life any more than you want to know about theirs ^^)
If you can, find compromise with boundaries within the home (it doesn'thave to be a verbal contract, you can keep on being "secretive" and ignore the comments about it, as long as it doesn't go further than that), when no situation that is viable can be achieve you coyote ugly yourself out of there and move.
It's not about the planet placements, it's not a bf, these are your parents, it's about how you handle the placements, how mature you are. Unlike a romantic affair, the goal isn't necessarily being happy, it can just be cohabitation, that can help a lot with hard aspects, the lower the expectations, the more flexible the mindset.
Good luck

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posted August 04, 2019 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Sarcasm sometimes doesn't translate well over the internet...

true

@MoonBeth

thanks

@ChildofVenus

well if you ever decide to act on those thoughts, don't give me any credit for encouraging you lol

people who talk about you being secretive because they want to pry for information and then put you down really aren't worth talking to about anything, she's given you reason to be so she shouldn't complain

it sounds like you really could use the distance tbh, you won't know how you'll feel unless you put that distance there and live with it for a little while though, but it sounds like you'd probably thrive not having that kind of **** in your life

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posted August 04, 2019 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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true

@MoonBeth

thanks

@ChildofVenus

well if you ever decide to act on those thoughts, don't give me any credit for encouraging you lol

people who talk about you being secretive because they want to pry for information and then put you down really aren't worth talking to about anything, she's given you reason to be so she shouldn't complain

it sounds like you really could use the distance tbh, you won't know how you'll feel unless you put that distance there and live with it for a little while though, but it sounds like you'd probably thrive not having that kind of **** in your life


Lol I wouldn’t actually do anything I think once I get into working as a Massage Therapist instead of customer service things might get better. I’ll be busy and occupied so I won’t be around them as much.

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@Dumuzi
AWESOME!!!!! you come off as awesome, don't change a thing, I enjoy getting to know you so much!


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posted August 05, 2019 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol I wouldn’t actually do anything I think once I get into working as a Massage Therapist instead of customer service things might get better. I’ll be busy and occupied so I won’t be around them as much.

so you're going to take the test then? that's good

you could always drug them in the meantime, give yourself some peace

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I have a couple questions:
1) Are you an only child?
2) Do your parents have family members close by?.

If the answer is no to both then I would just ignore them and do what you want to do.

Eventually your parents will realize there getting older and can't turn to anyone..so you'll have the upper hand by then.

The reason being is even a Gemini will start to realize that there getting older..its just that a Gemini ages linearly while everyone else ages exponentially.

Example. I just helped a friend move and one of the items that needed to be moved was an upright Piano...I still have body aches.

I'm thinking to myself I moved a Grand Piano with a friend plus an old 60 inch tube tv when I was 18 and had no problems...why is it any different now???

So i'm starting to realize it..i'm sure your Gemini parents will to soon.

Your Dad might suddenly get the idea to do his own break job for his car then suddenly realize he can't do it as fast as he used to.

Other signs will just cry and say I'm old I can't do it anymore. An older Gemini will still try to attempt it and realize there no longer some "spring chicken anymore" and take forever to finish something.

FYI. I'm only a 2 year difference in age from you ChildOfVenus so don't take it that i'm some grumpy old man whinny about age, lol. I saw your chart my Taurus Venus conjuncts your Taurus sun.

Anyway if the Scorpio is working out for you spend more time with him, get away from your parents and do what you want to do.

I'm only basing it on your previous thread "Can you post pictures of lingerie that a Venus in Virgo man would like? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/241122.html

I'm sorry to ask but he's not collecting your lingerie afterwards, lol?
"Placements of men who like collecting women's panties?" http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/241126.html


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posted August 05, 2019 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I have a couple questions:
1) Are you an only child?
2) Do your parents have family members close by?.

If the answer is no to both then I would just ignore them and do what you want to do.

Eventually your parents will realize there getting older and can't turn to anyone..so you'll have the upper hand by then.

The reason being is even a Gemini will start to realize that there getting older..its just that a Gemini ages linearly while everyone else ages exponentially.

Example. I just helped a friend move and one of the items that needed to be moved was an upright Piano...I still have body aches.

I'm thinking to myself I moved a Grand Piano with a friend plus an old 60 inch tube tv when I was 18 and had no problems...why is it any different now???

So i'm starting to realize it..i'm sure your Gemini parents will to soon.

Your Dad might suddenly get the idea to do his own break job for his car then suddenly realize he can't do it as fast as he used to.

Other signs will just cry and say I'm old I can't do it anymore. An older Gemini will still try to attempt it and realize there no longer some "spring chicken anymore" and take forever to finish something.

FYI. I'm only a 2 year difference in age from you ChildOfVenus so don't take it that i'm some grumpy old man whinny about age, lol. I saw your chart my Taurus Venus conjuncts your Taurus sun.

Anyway if the Scorpio is working out for you spend more time with him, get away from your parents and do what you want to do.

I'm only basing it on your previous thread "Can you post pictures of lingerie that a Venus in Virgo man would like? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/241122.html

I'm sorry to ask but he's not collecting your lingerie afterwards, lol?
"Placements of men who like collecting women's panties?" http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/241126.html


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I am the only child that's part of the problem. Yes we have family near by but we aren't really close to them. You are right about that my dad has a lot of Gemini in his chart and keeps trying to do a lot of things. He'll say things like I know I'm getting older etc but he still keeps trying do do so much. My mom doesn't anymore she accepts that she's older now and can't do things that she use to do.

I'm not really invovled with the Scorpio he's someone I met online but he lives in another state. He talks about wanting to come see me etc I'm not even sure I like him really. Honestly he just seems like he'd be good for sex. I was asking about the lingerie for another guy I see sometimes. He's a Virgo Sun with a Virgo Venus. He and I have been friends for 5 years now. He lives in another state too but we meet up every now and then. He came to see me before we are just friends but I enjoy going to see him. I was talking to a Gemini who lives near me. Things were going ok until I told him my parents like him and want me to date him lol. Now he thinks I want a relationship so he said he doesn't want to hookup anymore. I hate it because we really got along well. The sex wasn't great for me but I liked the way he touched me and he seemed to be a gentleman. He wants me to keep sending him pictures though because he says he loves my body lol. It's just strange I don't know. I wish he would just chill I don't want to date him I don't see him as relationship material. He's just someone I enjoy being around he's just so cool and chill.

Yeah I did leave the Virgo my panties once I think he likes that. I left a pair for the Gemini too I'm not sure if that's his thing though lol. I don't know the Virgo seems to be the most stable he's always ok with me coming to see him. My parents get upset when I keep secrets from them about the guys I'm invovled with. They get upset when I just get up and leave and go out of town without telling them where I am. My dad even said he would kill the Virgo guy if he ever found out who he was. I think he was just being extreme though. I do believe my life would be a lot better if I weren't around them as much. I told my mom about the Virgo guy because I got tired of her being on my case. At one point she said she was going to hire a detective to find out who he was.

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posted August 05, 2019 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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so you're going to take the test then? that's good

you could always drug them in the meantime, give yourself some peace

@hypatia


Yes I am going to take I can take it up to 8 times. So even if I don't pass it the first time I can keep taking it until I pass.

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posted August 05, 2019 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes I am going to take I can take it up to 8 times. So even if I don't pass it the first time I can keep taking it until I pass.

oh you got this then, nothing to worry about

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