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ant23
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posted August 10, 2019 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This major “meet up” in Capricorn of these two major planets is happening right on my natal Venus in 5th house (less than 1degree away)

Should I be worried excited or excited excited!?

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Dumuzi
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posted August 10, 2019 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
don't be either then you'll never be disappointed

that looks like it's going to affect me though, conjunct my ic by 1 degree and exact square my nodes

edit: sun is going to be exact on my ic then too

most i can say is just look at it like something will probably happen

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posted August 11, 2019 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both Transiting Saturn and Pluto will Square my both Natal Mars and Pluto in Libra 5th/6th House.

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My Chart :
http://imgur.com/hCRDawD

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Graham
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posted August 12, 2019 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This conjunction is the start of the next Saturn-Pluto cycle, which lasts some 35 years. ... So, it will be a life-changing slow-burning influence that will change everyone's life during those 3.5 decades.

Check what happened (or has been happening since) your First Saturn Return, ant (on 5th January 2019). ... That will indicate the direction in which your natal chart has"programmed" you to go for the next 30 years - and this 2020 Saturn-Pluto cycle will be pushing you down that path.

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posted August 12, 2019 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting......it will be opposing my natal Venus and conjunct my IC too.

Graham, do you mean we all can check what happened during our Saturn returns to see how it will affect us?!

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Graham
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posted August 13, 2019 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by EmGem:
Interesting......it will be opposing my natal Venus and conjunct my IC too.

Graham, do you mean we all can check what happened during our Saturn returns to see how it will affect us?!


Yes - that is what I mean, EmGem.

Return Charts reveal "what is promised" by the returning planet during that cycle. ... So, in the way that a Solar Return Chart can be used to determine the direction in which the Sun will take us for the next year, the Saturn Return reveals the direction in which Saturn will take us for the next 30 years. (And the 35-years-long Saturn-Pluto cycle(s) taking place in the sky above during that time will be steering each of us in the direction mapped out in our own Saturn Return Chart(s).


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posted August 13, 2019 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

Yes - that is what I mean, EmGem.

Return Charts reveal "what is promised" by the returning planet during that cycle. ... So, in the way that a Solar Return Chart can be used to determine the direction in which the Sun will take us for the next year, the Saturn Return reveals the direction in which Saturn will take us for the next 30 years. (And the 35-years-long Saturn-Pluto cycle(s) taking place in the sky above during that time will be steering each of us in the direction mapped out in our own Saturn Return Chart(s).


i spent a fair chunk of my saturn return doing heroin, i can't imagine it being very helpful to look at that for this

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posted August 13, 2019 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i spent a fair chunk of my saturn return doing heroin, i can't imagine it being very helpful to look at that for this

Look first*, Dumuzi ... then decide if doing so was or was not helpful.

[*By completing an analysis, interpretation and synthesis of your Saturn Return Chart.]


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posted August 13, 2019 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

Look first*, Dumuzi ... [b]then
decide if doing so was or was not helpful.

[*By completing an analysis, interpretation and synthesis of your Saturn Return Chart.]

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i didn't decide i said "can't imagine" that's not the same as saying it definitely isn't

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posted August 13, 2019 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i didn't decide i said "can't imagine" that's not the same as saying it definitely isn't

And ... (in effect) ... I said "remain undecided until, you have looked" ... which is not the same as saying that looking definitely will be helpful.

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posted August 13, 2019 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

And ... (in effect) ... I said "remain undecided until, you have looked" ... which is not the same as saying that looking definitely will be helpful.


pretty sure paraphrasing yourself doesn't really work here, but ok changes things entirely

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posted August 13, 2019 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Years ago, I heard one astrologer say that when you KNOW your chart is about to be hit, for good or not (or Both), 'position' yourself for best-outcomes.

(music) Something's Coming (from West Side Story 1961) [2:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOQPMjKLQQU

lyrics
Could be!
Who knows?
There's something due any day;
I will know right away,
Soon as it shows.

It may come cannonballing down through the sky,
Gleam in its eye,
Bright as a rose!

Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Under a tree.
I got a feeling there's a miracle due,
Gonna come true,
Coming to me!

Could it be? Yes, it could.
Something's coming, something good,
If I can wait!
Something's coming, I don't know what it is,
But it is
Gonna be great!

With a click, with a shock,
Phone'll jingle, door'll knock,
Open the latch!
Something's coming, don't know when, but it's soon;
Catch the MOON,
One-handed catch!

Around the corner,
Or whistling down the river,
Come on, deliver
To me!
Will it be? Yes, it will.
Maybe just by holding still,
It'll be there!

Come on, something, come on in, don't be shy,
Meet a guy,
Pull up a chair!
The air is humming,
And something great is coming!
Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Maybe tonight . . .
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My placement? Will occur on my Ceres Capricorn.
Ceres 25 Cap makes more aspects around my chart, than any other body!
Is in my 2nd House.

Will be having my Ceres RETURN.
Will happen on my Progressed Cap Moon.
Trines my Moon Virgo H(9).
(This post would be too long if I included everything.)

Whatever happens, it is sure to be powerful-- for everyone.

Get Ready, Get Ready, Get Ready!
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Happens around every 33 years.
Saturn-Pluto conjunction
Jan 12, 2020 at Capricorn 22.46
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Sun Ceres Saturn Pluto will be aligned at declination 22 South. Jan. 13.
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There will be a short Penumbral FM Lunar Eclipse
Jan 10 19:22 GMT 20.00 Cancer/(Cap)
- http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/lunar/2020-january-10
- http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEplot/LEplot2001/LE2020Jan10N.pdf
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In USA will also be involved with swearing in of the President,
while USA is in orb of its PLUTO-return.
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posted August 13, 2019 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This conjunction will happen in my 2H also, 4orb conjunction (and exact on declination) to 2H cusp actually.

Someone on the thread warned me that it will be a mix of gaining and loosing anything 2nd house related. My finance was the easiest to see the effect. I would earn a lot and suddenly so many unexpected spendings!! It’s been a crazy roller coaster ride for sure - hope my heart and mental health hold on for the next 33 years 😭

Pluto has been hoovering my 2H cusp for some time now due to its retrograde. When it finally makes it to Aquarius, I’ll have anti vertex there and then Jupiter at 2deg. I just hope I survive 🙏

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charlie
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posted August 13, 2019 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will have left my Cap Moon 5H by then but will be jarring my Cancer Sun/Venus 11H. I’ll have tJupiter conj my Moon at the same time.

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ant23
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posted August 13, 2019 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!
Lots have been said!

My Saturn return has been mild I think minus me being redundant a couple of weeks ago. Wonder if this is somehow connected as Venus is associated with money as well.

I am wishfully thinking that this will be a love of my life situation hahahaha 🤪 wishful thinking 💭

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posted August 14, 2019 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

Yes - that is what I mean, EmGem.

Return Charts reveal "what is promised" by the returning planet during that cycle. ... So, in the way that a Solar Return Chart can be used to determine the direction in which the Sun will take us for the next year, the Saturn Return reveals the direction in which Saturn will take us for the next 30 years. (And the 35-years-long Saturn-Pluto cycle(s) taking place in the sky above during that time will be steering each of us in the direction mapped out in our own Saturn Return Chart(s).


I lost my father just prior or during my Saturn return. It was a very difficult time. I’m hoping I don’t lose another parent. Now I’m afraid..

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posted August 14, 2019 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manymoones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter is not far behind either. This is occurring in my 12th house.

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TaurusVenusGirl
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posted May 12, 2021 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i spent a fair chunk of my saturn return doing heroin, i can't imagine it being very helpful to look at that for this

Please go do some more herion again, lol.

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