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viviette
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posted August 27, 2019 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone
My question is about a somewhat brimming t square
In the case of a T then ..
with Chiron opp uray
but the square part involving sun and Saturn (due to their being conjunct) does this give a double referee and how does it play out here in context ?

Uranus in Scorpio 5th (N node also in 5th)
Chiron in 1° Taurus 11th (Chiron trines with Merc Leo)
Sun (sole dispositor) in Leo 2nd
Saturn in Leo 2nd

Does the opposition speak of a duel (uray scorpio 5th sounds « progressive » to put it mildly
and Chiron Taurus suppressive and cutting oneself off if due to wounds if not resolved .

Given the 2nd house involvement and Taurus and Chiron are there issues of self worth loneliness ..and needs being suppressed ? Or do you see something else ?
Anything positive to be had ?

Thank you kindly 🙏

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posted August 27, 2019 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have that exactly but I have a Taurus Chiron opposed Uranus in t-square with my sun and I suppress nothing, I embrace my wounds and pain and work through them, I sublime them by helping others with those (Chiron conjunct MC).
I'd say the opposition makes any sign of instability trigger my wounds, but I feel the Taurus makes me strong enough to take it and build a personality that is slowly becoming able to deal with unpredictability. All in all I feel so much better in life and actually stable since I've realised how much instability could impact my whole sense of self. I wouldn't be able to tell you if the t-square brought the turmoil to begin with or if it just provides the tools to rise above it.

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posted August 27, 2019 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
I don't have that exactly but I have a Taurus Chiron opposed Uranus in t-square with my sun and I suppress nothing, I embrace my wounds and pain and work through them, I sublime them by helping others with those (Chiron conjunct MC).
I'd say the opposition makes any sign of instability trigger my wounds, but I feel the Taurus makes me strong enough to take it and build a personality that is slowly becoming able to deal with unpredictability. All in all I feel so much better in life and actually stable since I've realised how much instability could impact my whole sense of self. I wouldn't be able to tell you if the t-square brought the turmoil to begin with or if it just provides the tools to rise above it.

Thanks for this Moonbeth
I hear one should look to the opposite side of the T for the « way out. »
Would that make sense in your case ? I think it means what is opposite the sun, as a house or planet.

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Moonbeth
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posted August 27, 2019 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 28, 2019 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun/Saturn both suggest responsible expression or playing by the rules.A personality geared towards conserving their personality or coming across very reserved.

All people I know with Saturn in aspect to Sun-even the "easy" trine and sextile-come across so earthy & grounded.

What sign is Sun/Saturn in?

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viviette
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posted August 29, 2019 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
Dejanira is there, opposed my sun and trine my Jupiter, and considering how much my professional life has been linked to my survival of abuse I think it does make sense that those are progressing together. It has proven much more difficult for me to have safe relationships at work than in life (private feel easy to me, I vividly remember feeling abused and would move on at the first sign, at work it's trickier, I don't allow myself to rely on my intuition and feelings so much and even if, I can't fire my boss or colleagues because they're toxic, protecting myself from any attitude that could be part of an abusive dynamic is more difficult), but the more I have tried to not protect myself so much at work and seek contact and human matter, the more I achieve and feel stronger, so I imagine you could say the solution to my highly-linked-to-my-professional-world unstable and unsafe t-square is paradoxically putting myself out there and making myself vulnerable.

That is very interesting and good if it works for you

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viviette
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posted August 29, 2019 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sun/Saturn both suggest responsible expression or playing by the rules.A personality geared towards conserving their personality or coming across very reserved.

All people I know with Saturn in aspect to Sun-even the "easy" trine and sextile-come across so earthy & grounded.

What sign is Sun/Saturn in?


Hi Aries
sun saturn are in Leo in 2nd.

And Opposite these « apex » (pointy bit in the t square) planets is an empty 8th house in Aqua.

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Moonbeth
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posted August 29, 2019 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by viviette:
That is very interesting and good if it works for you

It doesn't work, but it doesn't not-work. It's a basic principle of if you try to make yourself fit into a square, it hurts, if you do your best to be you while adapting to your surroundings, it's not always convenient, but it's enriching.

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posted August 31, 2019 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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