posted August 30, 2019 03:02 AM            

Mine had a very erratic childhood with moving around different states and countries. But he didn’t have a bad childhood, just not stable. He lives far away from his family but cares about them deeply.

He likes to see where his fancy takes him and doesn’t want to feel controlled.

On one hand he is cuddly and affectionate, but he does need his space too. More than what I’m used to before to the point I’ve wondered what he is looking for.

He cares a lot for the close people in his life, is helpful and can help with practical things. He is open minded and positive. But he doesn’t see them all the time.

posted August 30, 2019 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Adriana:
As I’m seeing someone with this configuration I’m curious if anyone here has it/involved with someone who has it? If something in your childhood was unstable/unconventional and how it affects you now? And how you deal with romantic relationships? What are you looking for in them and do you want and can have long term relationships? And how do you balance the need for stability vs need for freedom and change?

Mine had a very erratic childhood with moving around different states and countries. But he didn’t have a bad childhood, just not stable. He lives far away from his family but cares about them deeply.

He likes to see where his fancy takes him and doesn’t want to feel controlled.

On one hand he is cuddly and affectionate, but he does need his space too. More than what I’m used to before to the point I’ve wondered what he is looking for.

He cares a lot for the close people in his life, is helpful and can help with practical things. He is open minded and positive. But he doesn’t see them all the time.

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Moon-Uranus is discussed in great detail on another thread "Moon-Uranus: The detached lover." Lots of information there.

Two things to remember here: "close distance". Not living in one place or having a long distance arrangement is best.

posted August 30, 2019 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Moon-Uranus is discussed in great detail on another thread "Moon-Uranus: The detached lover." Lots of information there.

Two things to remember here: "close distance". Not living in one place or having a long distance arrangement is best.

There is some recurring distance between you and the Moon-Uranus person that is needed for this to work.

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I will try and find that thread, thank you!
He goes away minimum 4 times a year for 2 weeks, we get to miss each other. Hopefully enough distance
And not seeing each other every day!

posted August 30, 2019 08:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Adriana:
I will try and find that thread, thank you!
He goes away minimum 4 times a year for 2 weeks, we get to miss each other. Hopefully enough distance
And not seeing each other every day!

Is it a fear of intimacy or just a strong sense of independence that can be the driving force? Hmm

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When Uranus is etched in the chart through an aspect with the Ic,ruler of the Ic, the Moon or through the 2nd house, ruler of the 2nd house or Venus etc. it's not even a conscious thing. Its a habitual practice that is a part of the native's life.

Typically speaking, there's something within the natives early upbringing that grouped intimacy with distance or had security needs tied up with inconsistency.

You stated that he had an erratic childhood. That is definitely a contributing factor i.e since there were so many erratic conditions in childhood,somehwere in his subconscious mind this state of flux got tied up to.a familiar pattern and state of being. Its irreversible.

This is because when we are young, we don't know what we don't know. So the conditions we grow up under(no matter how "dysfunctional"), we have little idea that there is different out there or things which we are living are not "ideal".

That is why we repeat patterns of the Moon/2nd house- because this is our "familiar" point of reference(no matter how "detrimental" it can be to us).

So psychiatrists/psychologists try to "redress" harmful subconscious patterns of behaviour by going back to your childhood(Moon) or speaking about how you grew up etc. The effort here is to uproot the seed that was planted.

Becoming conscious of these patterns is what adulthood is all about. One can never erase them completely.But they can aspire to manage them or atleast be able to connect how these subconscious actions sponsor their reality.

There is a Venus-Pluto thread here where I address this inner/outer relationship. It works in much the same way with other aspects to Venus/Moon i.e we "learn" what security is and that point of reference sponsors our lives- for better or worse.

posted September 01, 2019 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
When Uranus is etched in the chart through an aspect with the Ic,ruler of the Ic, the Moon or through the 2nd house, ruler of the 2nd house or Venus etc. it's not even a conscious thing. Its a habitual practice that is a part of the native's life.

Typically speaking, there's something within the natives early upbringing that grouped intimacy with distance or had security needs tied up with inconsistency.

You stated that he had an erratic childhood. That is definitely a contributing factor i.e since there were so many erratic conditions in childhood,somehwere in his subconscious mind this state of flux got tied up to.a familiar pattern and state of being. Its irreversible.

This is because when we are young, we don't know what we don't know. So the conditions we grow up under(no matter how "dysfunctional"), we have little idea that there is different out there or things which we are living are not "ideal".

That is why we repeat patterns of the Moon/2nd house- because this is our "familiar" point of reference(no matter how "detrimental" it can be to us).

So psychiatrists/psychologists try to "redress" harmful subconscious patterns of behaviour by going back to your childhood(Moon) or speaking about how you grew up etc. The effort here is to uproot the seed that was planted.

Becoming conscious of these patterns is what adulthood is all about. One can never erase them completely.But they can aspire to manage them or atleast be able to connect how these subconscious actions sponsor their reality.

There is a Venus-Pluto thread here where I address this inner/outer relationship. It works in much the same way with other aspects to Venus/Moon i.e we "learn" what security is and that point of reference sponsors our lives- for better or worse.

For instance, you yourself could have Moon/Venus in aspect to Uranus/Saturn or Mars to be drawn to him. He represents something "erratic" to you.But it is familiar nevertheless. This is what informs the attraction from a base/root level.

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Thanks for your response!

He has definitely had an unusual upbringing, and unstable at that. And he is familiar with it. But I can recognize that it’s probably an unconscious thing for him. Turns out his sister is much the same way and there’s a couple of years between them.
So I can see what you say here with him.

posted September 01, 2019 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Adriana:
Thanks for your response!

He has definitely had an unusual upbringing, and unstable at that. And he is familiar with it. But I can recognize that it’s probably an unconscious thing for him. Turns out his sister is much the same way and there’s a couple of years between them.
So I can see what you say here with him.

I myself have a wide 7 orb Uranus con Sun and MC. So it’s possible as you say that I like that quality in him because I have it inside myself. I never liked to feel too tied down, I did move around a lot myself, but not over countries and states like him.

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posted September 01, 2019 05:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hmmm. What does ur chart look like?

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posted September 01, 2019 07:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Adriana:
Sag Uranus/MC/Sun/Mercury/Venus/Neptune (Uranus con Sun/MC. Venus con Mercury and Neptune). All in 10th/11th house
Leo Moon 7th house trine Sun
Cappy Mars and Asc (Mars square Pluto and Saturn)
Scorpio Jupiter (9th house) and Saturn (8th house)
The last two rules a lot in my chart

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Oh so you were born 5 Dec 1982? I recall the conjunction of that year. Mars joining in during December with a square.

You Leo Moon contra-parallel Uranus-its like an opposition. You do prefer emotional space-much like he does.

And as I suspected , your Sun parallel Mars. This is the "personal space" aspect I meant. You don't want someone living in your pocket.

posted September 01, 2019 08:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh so you were born 5 Dec 1982? I recall the conjunction of that year. Mars joining in during December with a square.

You Leo Moon contra-parallel Uranus-its like an opposition. You do prefer emotional space-much like he does.

And as I suspected , your Sun parallel Mars. This is the "personal space" aspect I meant. You don't want someone living in your pocket.

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Ha! You are good yes, that’s my date.
I have never really looked at parallel, I do prefer some emotional space but not so much as him! But I grow gradually into being able to be closer. Takes me some time. Capricorn doesn’t help lol in the beginning I almost feel like a I’m a guy needing space!
But I used to attribute that to my Mars square Saturn/Pluto that is a fear of intimacy (due to childhood), but for a different reason than Uranus.

posted September 01, 2019 11:56 AM            

There is an inner touchiness that is not so much a fear of intimacy per se.But a defensiveness towards a perceived "threat"-whether this be intimacy or not.

Like for instance, you may perceive a guy opening the door for you or pulling your seat out as male domineering behaviour and not chivalry.

So it makes you defensive with associations as you are always vigilant of being "overpowered" by someone. Specifically those more "traditional" types who have archaic views of women and men relations.

Pluto/Saturn both represent patriarchy and all its limitations.Mars represents the woman's independence. The square suggest a clash between asserting your own independence as a woman and societal norms and governance.

To extend on this, Pluto and Saturn represent the expected "oppression" or rules of society governing (symbolically) "female" behavior that favour patriarchy. Mars is insistent on freedom-regardless of the sex of the body one finds oneself in.So you can be touchy about that and project that externally i.e dislike or dismiss any imposed upon conformance to "norms".

A Uranus-Moon mate would be attractive to you because they are open ended. They do not care to force others to conform to rules (including gender societal rules) because they hate the same being imposed on them.

The flip side of the coin however is that they can be mavericks. So this "open endedness" in attitude could have them also not conform to any rules or norms of how they "should" behave in intimate relationships.