posted September 12, 2019 07:32 PM            

There's this feeling that he does all things right partnership wise, so dimplomatic, kind, listens, cuddly affectionate, passionate, wanting to please. Yet so up in his head? And doesn't show deep emtotions easily? Is this common for this ascendant?

posted September 12, 2019 07:41 PM            

The warmth is more like an air conditioner than authentic. Lots of diplomacy(which is great for my Mars Libra). But I felt like he told me what he wanted me to hear and lacked depth.

I find thiw a common thread with Libra tbh. I tend to get more demanding with them as I find their sincerity can be lacking or too paper thin.

posted September 12, 2019 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I agree with you on this. Felt the same superficial air with a Lib Asc, Gem Sun ex with Virgo Moon.

The warmth is more like an air conditioner than authentic. Lots of diplomacy(which is great for my Mars Libra). But I felt like he told me what he wanted me to hear and lacked depth.

I find thiw a common thread with Libra tbh. I tend to get more demanding with them as I find their sincerity can be lacking or too paper thin.

The only Libra who behaved so different from what I described here had Venus/Mars conj in Leo. He couldn't hold much feelings back. But I think I took him for granted-which I regret.

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The air conditoner analogy made me giggle
But it's so right! Everyone likes him, he adjusts so well to all sorts of personalities so Ive asked him which of his friends he feels he has most in common with (as another way of understanding him better). I think my deep questions make him think, but as the pleaser he is he wants to answer me fully :P
He has a stellium in 1st house and Venus as not only chart ruler but final dispositor as well..

I think he is amazing, too. Diplomacy, open mindedness, fairness, kindness and charm. You Libra risings are awesome. So you Libra risings are awesome, just confusing.

Mine also feels like he tells me what I want to hear, which feels wrong when you want to understand someone better and where you stand with them.
I'll try to be a bit more assertive with him, when I have been he seems to like it a lot.
I just want to know how I can unlock his more assertive side. Instead of always the "whatever you want" when choosing restaurants every time...

For those who has this Asc, have your partners ever described you as airy and detached yet nice?

posted September 12, 2019 08:18 PM            

if it's just sex then i dont bother saying anything

but in an actual relationship there's no need to sense what i want because i flat out say it, i don't expect people to be psychic

ive never been called detached in a romantic relationship only friendships and such, deep relationships bring out a very different side of me

i dont necessarily care about **** like what restaurant i go to or what movie i watch etc though, to me that sort of thing is usually irrelevant what i care about is time spent together

i also dont just say **** someone wants to hear i have no problem saying **** that's difficult

posted September 12, 2019 08:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm a libra rising/virgo sun and no, in romantic relationships i put everything out there and i'm upfront about things when i'm interested

if it's just sex then i dont bother saying anything

but in an actual relationship there's no need to sense what i want because i flat out say it, i don't expect people to be psychic

ive never been called detached in a romantic relationship only friendships and such, deep relationships bring out a very different side of me

i dont necessarily care about **** like what restaurant i go to or what movie i watch etc though, to me that sort of thing is usually irrelevant what i care about is time spent together

i also dont just say **** someone wants to hear i have no problem saying **** that's difficult

i can be very givinng and self sacrificing etc when i care and i'll do a lot, and i don't necessarily care about getting things in return but if i'm not happy there's no hiding it and i won't hide it

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Thanks for sharing. Do you have water placements or water influence in your chart?

It's good you are so open! Mine is saying he is into me and all that when I ask, but I also feel that airiness about him. And a bit cool, never cold.
Mine has a fair bit of earth and cant be near me without touching me in some way which is very sweet.

Choosing restaurants may not be that important always, but makes things easier lol. But it's ust an example I could think of.

I have so much Saggy stuff, I want the Truth lol, also the not so fun stuff

posted September 12, 2019 09:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Adriana:
Thanks for sharing. Do you have water placements or water influence in your chart?

It's good you are so open! Mine is saying he is into me and all that when I ask, but I also feel that airiness about him. And a bit cool, never cold.
Mine has a fair bit of earth and cant be near me without touching me in some way which is very sweet.

Choosing restaurants may not be that important always, but makes things easier lol. But it's ust an example I could think of.

I have so much Saggy stuff, I want the Truth lol, also the not so fun stuff

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i don't have any personal water planets

my only water is my cancer midheaven, my pluto in scorpio (i do have a first house pluto in placidus though it sextiles my sun and sextiles my neptune, my sun is also trine neptune and square saturn) and my jupiter in pisces (5th house, its only major aspect is a square to uranus, my 5th house has an aquarius cusp however)

my moon is in aries conjunct my descendant (it's part of a kite with my leo mercury, and sag uranus and libra venus and part of a t-square with my cap mars/libra venus) i have north node conjunct descendant as well

water placements dont necessarily make someone not cold btw, my ex fiancee has a lot of water and can be extremely cold and self centered just emotional and sensitive l(to her own needs)

if he's saying he's into you why doubt him? people show affection in their own ways not necessarily the ways you want them to

if you have needs tell him otherwise maybe consider that he's just being himself and move on without expecting him to demonstrate his feelings differently just because it's different from what you expect

i would never do all that **** for someone without caring, most people wouldnt

edit: also as far as neptune goes i have a loose mars- neptune conjunction

and in my case i'm generally indifferent about decisions like that because like i said what i care about is being with the other person everything else doesnt matter as much

i tend to be indecisive and indifferent about a good deal of things like that in general, and it can take me a while to figure out what i feel like doing

posted September 13, 2019 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i don't have any personal water planets

water placements dont necessarily make someone not cold btw, my ex fiancee has a lot of water and can be extremely cold and self centered just emotional and sensitive l(to her own needs)

if he's saying he's into you why doubt him? people show affection in their own ways not necessarily the ways you want them to

if you have needs tell him otherwise maybe consider that he's just being himself and move on without expecting him to demonstrate his feelings differently just because it's different from what you expect

i would never do all that **** for someone without caring, most people wouldnt

edit: also as far as neptune goes i have a loose mars- neptune conjunction

and in my case i'm generally indifferent about decisions like that because like i said what i care about is being with the other person everything else doesnt matter as much

i tend to be indecisive and indifferent about a good deal of things like that in general, and it can take me a while to figure out what i feel like doing

so i find it easier and less time consuming to let the other person pick instead of them ******** about me taking a while

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I don’t mean that Libra rising comes across as cold, all those traits described in my previous post have nothing to do with coldness. Maybe a bit detachment and being cool. From my experiences.

There’s all this focus now on love languages etc, so I respect other people have different ways of expressing affection. It’s just some of it is confusing for me. We both have physical touch high up, I suppose all the earth on both of us has a say here.

In my case, for example when it comes to food I like so much different foods so I might say “either or, what do you prefer?” But that’s because I could have eaten both.
And my preferences are waste.
But whenever I have a clear opinion I state that. So if Libra indecision comes from just liking all options I see it’s easier with a more assertive partner lol

posted September 13, 2019 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Adriana:
The air conditoner analogy made me giggle
But it's so right! Everyone likes him, he adjusts so well to all sorts of personalities so Ive asked him which of his friends he feels he has most in common with (as another way of understanding him better). I think my deep questions make him think, but as the pleaser he is he wants to answer me fully :P

He has a stellium in 1st house and Venus as not only chart ruler but final dispositor as well..

I think he is amazing, too. Diplomacy, open mindedness, fairness, kindness and charm. You Libra risings are awesome. So you Libra risings are awesome, just confusing.

Mine also feels like he tells me what I want to hear, which feels wrong when you want to understand someone better and where you stand with them.
I'll try to be a bit more assertive with him, when I have been he seems to like it a lot.

I just want to know how I can unlock his more assertive side. Instead of always the "whatever you want" when choosing restaurants every time...

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It can feel like Libra is on a constant never-ending "PR" mission.

In that, its best if they "appear" calmer than they really are inside. The unpleasantness of raw, "ugly" feelings can exhaust their bodies health-wise. So many just choose indifference or to "chill out".

I get this sentiment as a Mars in Libra myself. I don't do long, drawn-out battles. Its not nice for me. So I do tend to want to present a "everything's under control" image to the greater public.

But deep within the relationship, I am a lot more passionate and emotional. And that's the part with Libra that I don't get; the "PR" extends even to what is supposed to be the most intimate part of the relationship.

So I never get to see who they really are. And I can get frustrated because of the "niceties" they habitually go through within relationship settings that are supposed to be more real.

Shemar Moore has Libra Asc, Taurus Sun, Libra Moon. His Sun in Taurus/Moon in Libra are cross-conjunct my Sun in Libra/Moon in Taurus Draco. But I have Drac Asc in Aqua.

He has always appeared very neutral to me. Not intense enough to be given roles where he is the pyscho or villain. Always typecast as some sort of heartthrob.

I had trouble believing that Leonardo DiCaprio is Scorpio Sun-well that's until I learned that he has Libra Moon and Asc..He also lacks that "edge"

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posted September 19, 2019 04:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It can feel like Libra is on a constant never-ending "PR" mission.

In that, its best if they "appear" calmer than they really are inside. The unpleasantness of raw, "ugly" feelings can exhaust their bodies health-wise. So many just choose indifference or to "chill out".

I get this sentiment as a Mars in Libra myself. I don't do long, drawn-out battles. Its not nice for me. So I do tend to want to present a "everything's under control" image to the greater public.

But deep within the relationship, I am a lot more passionate and emotional. And that's the part with Libra that I don't get; the "PR" extends even to what is supposed to be the most intimate part of the relationship.

So I never get to see who they really are. And I can get frustrated because of the "niceties" they habitually go through within relationship settings that are supposed to be more real.

Shemar Moore has Libra Asc, Taurus Sun, Libra Moon. His Sun in Taurus/Moon in Libra are cross-conjunct my Sun in Libra/Moon in Taurus Draco. But I have Drac Asc in Aqua.

He has always appeared very neutral to me. Not intense enough to be given roles where he is the pyscho or villain. Always typecast as some sort of heartthrob.

I had trouble believing that Leonardo DiCaprio is Scorpio Sun-well that's until I learned that he has Libra Moon and Asc..He also lacks that "edge"

Not hating on Lib Asc.But this Asc(barring other factors to suggest otherwise) often has the individual come across as "mild" ime.

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I giggled at the «PR mission”!
It can feel a bit like that, strange as it sounds. But choosing to rather stay calm and not show too much uncomfortable feelings rings true for my guy!
But yes, he is like that with us alone too. I wonder sometimes if he read “how to be the perfect boyfriend” somewhere and acts it out lol. Maybe sounds terrible but there are times I can feel that way.

posted September 19, 2019 04:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think it would be something else. The ASC is rather superficial. It sounds more like the Moon.

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That could be. He has Taurus Moon but opp Uranus. But his chart ruler is also in Libra so that would go deeper

posted September 19, 2019 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Adriana:
I don’t mean that Libra rising comes across as cold, all those traits described in my previous post have nothing to do with coldness. Maybe a bit detachment and being cool. From my experiences.

There’s all this focus now on love languages etc, so I respect other people have different ways of expressing affection. It’s just some of it is confusing for me. We both have physical touch high up, I suppose all the earth on both of us has a say here.

In my case, for example when it comes to food I like so much different foods so I might say “either or, what do you prefer?” But that’s because I could have eaten both.
And my preferences are waste.
But whenever I have a clear opinion I state that. So if Libra indecision comes from just liking all options I see it’s easier with a more assertive partner lol

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air conditioner statement implied cold to me, my bad

for me indecisiveness isnt necessarily about liking all of the options (it can range from like to indifference, if i dislike something i'll be blunt about it though i can drive people crazy with that being clear about what i dont want while being unsure of what i do want) it's just a matter of not really knowing what i feel like having or doing

for example a choice between 2 different places to get food:

i might prefer the food in one and just think the food is ok in the other but maybe one is closer than the other, and maybe i like the atmosphere better in one over the other, the staff, do i want to go there or would i prefer to just go somewhere that offers take out? would cooking be better? do i want to do anything else later? does it matter if i do? is one closer to other things than the other? do i feel like eating that? am i hungry when i'm deciding? which has quicker service if i am? etc and so on there's a million different things to consider, and then not only do i consider them but i have to consider their importance and weigh all that out against each other

and now while i've been doing that maybe i've thought of a 3rd option or am less or more hungry due to time spent thinking, also now maybe the other person is getting impatient so i'm even less sure and what are their preferences? do they really not care or are they saying they don't care because they want me to decide? are both places really the same to them how could they be they're both so different? do they want to sit somewhere or go somewhere we can grab take out and go do something else? what else is there to do? which would be more fun for us both?

if their answers differ from mine then what's fair? what did we do last time? if they chose then do i just choose now? do i choose today and tell them they do tomorrow?

now while all that is going on maybe they've thought about a 4th option, and suggested that thinking that i havent chosen because i don't want either now i have to think about everything i've already considered except with that in mind

and then maybe i get frustrated trying to decide with those options so i think about trying something new instead, but now there's even more choices

it goes on like that for a while and can take a really long time, i'm frustrated the other person is frustrated it was easier for them to choose in the first place and save us both the trouble because if i dont want something i know immediately

however if we're already outside and walking or driving and you ask if i feel like eating and say you do i can easily make a quick decision based on whatever's around at the moment that seems appealing

because it's not a future decision that feels like a commitment it's a sudden one sp it's much easier

that's how it works for me anyway because i don't generally make decisions based on one factor there's usually multiple ones and how much weight each factor has needs to be considered too, and that can vary depending on situation

i also care a good deal about whether or not i'm being fair with a decision, and if i'm taking too long then it feels unfair