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Topic: How to positively manifest your Plutonic side
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EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2566 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted September 17, 2019 05:02 PM
I have realised of late that I am undergoing intense Pluto transits to my venus. tPluto/Saturn opposite venus/MC. This is bringing up a lot of pluto obsessiveness/control/co-dependency issues in my current relationships. I have my natal sun/mercury in the 8th anyway, trine pluto. Scorpio ascendant. I have never thought of myself as the manipulative type in relationships. But currently I'm being faced with conscious issues of wanting to control, but hating that I want to. I'm all about trying to surrender, praying for it. To let go of needing to control anyone or anything.Does anyone have any advice on how to positively manifest pluto? Please share. I want to evolve in the right way so that I am no longer subject to the dark side of it. Also, does anyone have any advice on how to survive and positively manifest tPluto/Saturn opposite venus/MC? t/Pluto/Jupiter will exactly opposite my venus/MC in May 2020. I would like to be prepared for this somehow. I can already feel it building up. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 58 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted September 17, 2019 09:42 PM
When I was younger, I had kind of a rule: not to hold people and don't get too dependent on them (especially emotionally). Now I understand that's how I managed my Plutonic issues without even acknowledge them. But I'm not so smart and put together anymore) Self-control and self-awareness- notice when you get too Plutonic and know how to stop. Positive way to manifest - positive Leadership instead of obsessive control.IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 477 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted September 17, 2019 10:26 PM
I tend to avoid situations that I know will bring up the worst of my pluto. You have to have a very keen sense of people and use your intuition. Get in touch with the deepest parts of yourself and know your triggers, your safety zone (where you feel most comfortable), and who around you brings out what in you. It's imperative that you spot your own reactions to situations and people and learn how to see the deeper meaning of it all and control yourself. Learning how to control my emotions was a HUGE step for me in my life. I have a strong tendency to react emotionally before I step back and look at the bigger picture (moon conjunct Pluto opposite mercury) and the chaos that followed was my own doing, not what pushed me there to begin with. It takes time and patience with yourself and learn from your mistakes and always take your part of the responsibility, don't ever push anything under the rug. It'll come back to bite you. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2566 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted September 17, 2019 11:03 PM
It’s so hard. I’m starting to become really aware of when I’m triggered and the strong emotions building like a fire inside me. But it’s hard for me to speak about them to the person I’m involved with that triggers all this in me. I tend to bottle it up for fear of losing him (pluto). Also I have moon/mars/Saturn conjunct. Yay. Luckily my mum is very conscious and has been through something similar so she’s helping me. Still, I don’t want to sabotage anything with anyone else. But how on earth do you control these emotions? I meditate. Pray. Great, but I feel like I’m being plunged right back into my old wounds and I’m staring at them right in the face. Sometimes I wish I could walk away but I’d feel like I’ve lost my arm or leg. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 4816 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 18, 2019 07:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dons2angelss: I tend to avoid situations that I know will bring up the worst of my pluto. You have to have a very keen sense of people and use your intuition. Get in touch with the deepest parts of yourself and know your triggers, your safety zone (where you feel most comfortable), and who around you brings out what in you. It's imperative that you spot your own reactions to situations and people and learn how to see the deeper meaning of it all and control yourself. Learning how to control my emotions was a HUGE step for me in my life. I have a strong tendency to react emotionally before I step back and look at the bigger picture (moon conjunct Pluto opposite mercury) and the chaos that followed was my own doing, not what pushed me there to begin with. It takes time and patience with yourself and learn from your mistakes and always take your part of the responsibility, don't ever push anything under the rug. It'll come back to bite you.
Agree with this to 100%!! With age I have also learned, the very (!) hard way of avoiding situations that WILL trigger the Pluto in me! In fact, I also avoid people that hide things whereas before I found it interesting to dig deep. I just can't be bothered anymore to having to look for answers when it's just so very simple to atleast be 50% transparent.. I also avoid people that speak in riddles because they'll drive me absolute bonkers if I entertain their **** . So, finally, at the ripe age of 42, I have realized that yes, I do have significant Pluto in me and NO, I will not use him to lower myself to other people's "low". I have mastered the "blank/cold stare" and "shoulder shrug" and I like it! Sun, Moon, Mercury sq Pluto. IP: Logged |
Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 217 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted September 18, 2019 01:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: I have realised of late that I am undergoing intense Pluto transits to my venus. tPluto/Saturn opposite venus/MC. This is bringing up a lot of pluto obsessiveness/control/co-dependency issues in my current relationships. I have my natal sun/mercury in the 8th anyway, trine pluto. Scorpio ascendant. I have never thought of myself as the manipulative type in relationships. But currently I'm being faced with conscious issues of wanting to control, but hating that I want to. I'm all about trying to surrender, praying for it. To let go of needing to control anyone or anything.Does anyone have any advice on how to positively manifest pluto? Please share. I want to evolve in the right way so that I am no longer subject to the dark side of it.
Seek trust and courage. In yourself, others. Pluto/Scorpio energy gone awry does bad possessive (yes, I do believe possessive isn't in itself bad, it can be beautiful), jealous, controlling... because it's full of fear, to be betrayed, to lose something, itself. It's smart, it'll look for reasons why others will betray you and will always find them because, well, people betray without reasons, so give them anything resembling one and you've got yourself a motive. Practise courage, open up without guarantee it'll pay off, find trust, believe without reasons to. If you can align a couple of these experiences with positive outcomes, you'll absolutely have a key to positive Pluto, if you land twats it'll be harder but if you'll still get access to the true nature of Pluto: change. If you accept change, you can pretty much only do good with Pluto, where he gets terrible is when you resist him in any way. Go through the bad. Accept why you're tempted to act in ways you know aren't healthy, face your fears. Pluto respects us when we strip away the ******** . IP: Logged |
cthonicstar Newflake Posts: 9 From: Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 20, 2019 05:36 PM
Pluto is my chart ruler and it shows. Ever since I was a child, no matter how bubbly or gregariously I presented myself (dress and mannerisms,) people always picked up on the cthonic energy I was working so hard to mask. (It's true when they say Plutonians just make themselves appear creepier the more they try to be "normal." LOL) This put people off immensely during interaction; I've learned to express the Plutonian energy through fashion choices so people aren't shell shocked. Literally wearing the warning bells, haha. Control is a constant theme. However, this is where Pluto transforms; you can control yourself. How you're responding, interacting, and making decisions. For the transit, maybe take up a hobby or a new exercise regimen? Also, YES people who speak in roundabout ways are just a waste of time. Just get to the point or gtfo. Paranoia is always a problem. It's not healthy. You'll always find a motive no matter what. Let go of the paranoia and be present. Isn't that a Plutonian thing, TO BE PRESENT? Like Hades was always present no matter how much the gods and humans tried to pretend he wasn't. IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 477 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted September 20, 2019 05:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by cthonicstar: Pluto is my chart ruler and it shows. Ever since I was a child, no matter how bubbly or gregariously I presented myself (dress and mannerisms,) people always picked up on the cthonic energy I was working so hard to mask. (It's true when they say Plutonians just make themselves appear creepier the more they try to be "normal." LOL) This put people off immensely during interaction; I've learned to express the Plutonian energy through fashion choices so people aren't shell shocked. Literally wearing the warning bells, haha. Also, YES people who speak in roundabout ways are just a waste of time. Just get to the point or gtfo. You'll always find a motive no matter what, yes. Let go of the paranoia and be present. Isn't that a Plutonian thing, TO BE PRESENT? Like Hades was always present no matter how much the gods and humans tried to pretend he wasn't.
Same here, I literally dress my pluto now lol. People were so put off by me and still are! No matter how compassionate I am or gentle I try to be. I've been called a witch my whole life, I just have that look. I just own it now, no sense in hiding such a powerful presence! Roll with your new friend Pluto. IP: Logged |
cthonicstar Newflake Posts: 9 From: Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 21, 2019 02:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dons2angelss: Same here, I literally dress my pluto now lol. People were so put off by me and still are! No matter how compassionate I am or gentle I try to be. I've been called a witch my whole life, I just have that look. I just own it now, no sense in hiding such a powerful presence! Roll with your new friend Pluto.
Haha! It just oozes out one way or another. I assume you've also been told you can kill with a look. Hello Pluto! IP: Logged | |