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Topic: Is it true most “Venus square Saturn” natives, have a hard love-life until 35-36?
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Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 974 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted September 17, 2019 06:54 PM
A Vedic Astrologer told me that the number of Saturn is 36, so I figured I’d ask, out of curiosity. I’ve always thought Saturn was associated with the 30s in general, but I was wrong They say people with Saturn influenced charts, have lives that progress much faster, past the age of 35. I know 6 people in their 30s with this aspect, 3 of them are women in their mid-late 30s; multiple failed relationships, never married, no children. ------------------ Cancer Rising 2nd House Leo Sun 3rd House Leo Mercury 6th House Sagittarius Moon & Pluto 1st House Cancer Venus & Mars 9th House Pisces Jupiter conjunct MC. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 4694 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted September 17, 2019 07:43 PM
I have this aspect and I'm in early 30's. I don't know if I'll ever get married.IP: Logged |
MMarie Knowflake Posts: 670 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted September 17, 2019 08:39 PM
What does it feel like to have this aspect and what makes it so hard for the person to be in a successful relationship? IP: Logged |
Stellia Knowflake Posts: 606 From: Yorks, UK Registered: Jan 2017
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posted September 18, 2019 02:27 AM
I have a wide venus-saturn square (4deg) and Saturn in the seventh.When I was 36, with Saturn conjunct my natal Neptune and square natal Saturn, I moved myself and my 3yo away from my emotionally abusive ex after finally realising the pattern I'd been living all my life to that point. I've been single since then but my life has been chaos. Pretty much the same week I left him I got a new boss. Her sun conjuncts my Saturn, my sun conjuncts hers. After an initial 3-month honeymoon period, she's made my life hell for over two years with bullying and harassment. Then my dad died. I'm now leaving my job and hoping that I'll have enough emotional headspace to actually consider my lovelife - and my life in general. Hoping the last 3 years will turn out - in time and with hindsight - to be my bootcamp. The first 36 years venus-saturn has felt like being a victim and out of control and settling for bad situations because you're not aware of better. I'm now aware. I just have to find the courage to demand better. IP: Logged |
nomad-monad Knowflake Posts: 198 From: universe university Registered: Mar 2019
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posted September 18, 2019 06:12 AM
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nomad-monad Knowflake Posts: 198 From: universe university Registered: Mar 2019
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posted September 18, 2019 06:12 AM
I have it as well Sat 9 sag, Ven 10 pis.Indeed true to my experience. Saturn in the first part of life is absolutely relentless in the lessons/obstacles, it can be very very difficult, but the psychological growth that is stimulated and hopefully stabilized in time provide exceptional rewards. I am on my 33rd year, and things are indeed starting to look bright on all fronts. I'd think 36 could very well be a culmination-point, but you will see the light at the end of the tunnel earlier, depending on how you have approached your lessons. I would expect many illusions of this opening first however, before the real opening appear. IP: Logged |
nomad-monad Knowflake Posts: 198 From: universe university Registered: Mar 2019
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posted September 18, 2019 06:13 AM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 117462 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2019 06:21 PM
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bananaz Knowflake Posts: 1013 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted September 23, 2019 06:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by nomad-monad: I have it as well Sat 9 sag, Ven 10 pis.
Me too, except my Venus is at 13 pisces. My husband and I have been together almost 12 years. He has the conjunction in Sag. Sometimes I think venus/saturn makes you more serious when it comes to relationships. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 117462 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2019 10:00 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 117462 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2019 01:13 PM
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7801 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 07, 2019 02:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by bananaz: Me too, except my Venus is at 13 pisces.My husband and I have been together almost 12 years. He has the conjunction in Sag. Sometimes I think venus/saturn makes you more serious when it comes to relationships.
It does. Relationships are taken very seriously or at least one stays loyal -this whether romantic or platonic. I don't have the square but the conj of Ven-Sat in Scorp.
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Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 974 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 07, 2019 02:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: It does. Relationships are taken very seriously or at least one stays loyal -this whether romantic or platonic.I don't have the square but the conj of Ven-Sat in Scorp.
So the Square would not manifest the same-way as the Conjunction, right? ------------------ Cancer Rising 2nd House Leo Sun 3rd House Leo Mercury 6th House Sagittarius Moon & Pluto 1st House Cancer Venus & Mars 9th House Pisces Jupiter conjunct MC. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4013 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 07, 2019 04:58 PM
My birth chart has Saturn conjunct and parallel Sun in (Venusian) Taurus. I had only one prior brief dating relationship before I met my wife a couple months before I turned 39. You might consider that to be somewhat confirming of what the Vedic Astrologer told you.Saturn in opposition/contra-parallel, square, conjunction/parallel to Venus, Sun, Asc, Moon in the birth chart can signal these difficulties and delays. There is no magic number associated with when the difficulties end. It depends on how well you learn the necessary lessons. Typically, persons with these natal aspects have difficulties at least until they've gotten through their first Saturn return. They may learn 'the hard way' through marriage or relationship experiences or alone through a lack of them. Either way, the learning dynamic is in place. ------------------ Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert birth chart rectification IP: Logged |
Soulsjourney Knowflake Posts: 158 From: Registered: Jan 2017
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posted October 08, 2019 12:09 AM
I have Saturn sextile Venus, Saturn in 7th House Saturn conjunct MoonYes I'm in my 30s and I have issues with ALL relationships. I feel like I'm always misunderstood, or weird people out or easily taken advantage of. Its very hard for me to find someone who can understand my thought process without me explaining myself all the time. I haven't been in a relationship for over 6 years. Although I do want one, I also dread the pain that comes with it. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7801 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 08, 2019 01:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: So the Square would not manifest the same-way as the Conjunction, right?
I see plenty similarities-as with Saturn in Libra(whom should also be here stating their experiences. Saturn by sign or in aspect to a planet suggests where there is likely to be delays or some setbacks/struggles. Perhaps even painful awareness of lack or limitation etc. I think for me the difference between the square and the conjunction is that the former aspect is still "fooling" the native into thinking that there are "external" obstacles or voices that are finding fault with them. The result is often to work hard to "overcome" their negative views or "show them what I am capable of" etc. So the native feels sensitive to external counsel and/or criticism-often thinking both are the same and being defensive with both. With the conjunction the awareness of the obstacles spoken of,is more within.Like they feel the inner voice of criticism/counsel(depending on the native). And so the native finds it hard to receive, internalize compliments or the concept of "self love". Both however feel that love(Venus) is worked for or one has to mantain a certain level of "sanctity" .Luke they have to mantain something i.e morals,looks, intellect etc. to feel they "deserve" it etc. That it don't come easy and is "rare". I think with his Venus in Pisces and Saturn in Sagittarius tight square, there is a need to impress the authority or work hard to gain their "favour". He has some difficulties related to education/finishing his schooling(Sat on Sag) and that really bothers him. I can tell it does from the way he talks about how he has to "prove" his worth i.e "I am just as good as someone with qualifications. Or perhaps even better, because I have skills(Venus).So why can't they(Saturn) see that(square)?" I as a Saturn conj Venus feel I have to live up to high standards.And this is not because I feel external pressure to-as the pressure is never from outside of me but from within. When it comes to love, Saturn square Venus can be drawn to (according to them) a partner who is very hard to crack and emotionally distant. In short, they may like "projects". Perhaps the partner even underestimates them or critiques their capabilities? So the square individual wants to "prove" them wrong, break down the "wall" or is motivated by the "challenge" that the love relationship yields to them. Why? Because "overcoming" all these challenges builds their self esteem(Venus)- which is really at the heart of all this as it always feels like its being threatened (square) by discouraging/disapproving others(Saturn).
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bananaz Knowflake Posts: 1013 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 08, 2019 02:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: When it comes to love, Saturn square Venus can be drawn to (according to them) a partner who is very hard to crack and emotionally distant. In short, they may like "projects".
Projects in all areas of life. My house is a project. My career is a project. My children are projects. I want to keep getting better and better because it makes me feel appreciative of that thing/person/income more. I even feel I get better looking with age lol. My husband on the other hand with the conjunction does let things bother him internally, just like you said. He never feels like he is where he is supposed to be in life and is never happy with the journey as I (the square) can be. He always wants more and its frustrating because I can look around and see the progress. He only sees the road that's left ahead. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7801 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 08, 2019 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by bananaz: Projects in all areas of life. My house is a project. My career is a project. My children are projects. I want to keep getting better and better because it makes me feel appreciative of that thing/person/income more. I even feel I get better looking with age lol. My husband on the other hand with the conjunction does let things bother him internally, just like you said. He never feels like he is where he is supposed to be in life and is never happy with the journey as I (the square) can be. He always wants more and its frustrating because I can look around and see the progress. He only sees the road that's left ahead.
Thats is the problem with the conjunction : one is never satisfied.The pressure on the self is always there. I don't appreciate my own beauty/talents or abilities. I always think I can do "better". So I am always harder on myself than others are. But i am learning that this psychological imprint can be reversed. In that it is good to slow down and affirm myself, I am good enough etc. Funny story: I was walking with a friend and we walked past a really attractive stranger. My first thought was "Oh he looks nice" etc. But i continued on unbothered. My friend(whom is a lot more direct) did a double take and even turned back to catch the stranger turning back too. Later that same night, we meet up with the guy (coincidentally) at a local pub and he happens to be friends with mutual acquaintance. When we got to talking, it transpired that he was checking me out and was bummed that my friend was the one doing a double take and not me. That showed me that I already had written him off in my head as "out of reach". His rejection of me was all on ME coz he was very interested. And that to me suggests that Saturn on Venus is how we lock ourselves out of opportunities or assume we are not "enough" i.e attractive enough,tall enough, witty enough etc. But that we can progressively change all this by breaking out and telling ourselves again and again that we deserve what you want Not easy. But not impossible IP: Logged |