posted September 20, 2019 03:45 AM            

Do you relate to Neptune in Aqua? Or Uranus in Pisces.My thinking is that the 12th house energy is important to note. And since its being dragged to the 1st house,Neptune/Uranus can be read jointly in 1st

posted September 20, 2019 03:42 PM            

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I would look at interpretations of Uranus in 1st/12th.

Do you relate to Neptune in Aqua? Or Uranus in Pisces.My thinking is that the 12th house energy is important to note. And since its being dragged to the 1st house,Neptune/Uranus can be read jointly in 1st

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posted September 20, 2019 09:27 PM            

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How does this placement affect a person? What qualities do they possess? I have this in the 12th house and conjunct ascendant but at this point don't know how to interpret it as it relates to me. I do realize though that this is an exaltation but I need your perspectives to see how I can relate with this combination.

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posted September 20, 2019 09:36 PM            

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Uranus in the 12th House - Space Mermaid

Life can be a separative and strange experience with Uranus in 12th. The sudden urgency for solitude switches on like a crackling lamp, and the individual abandons everyone and everything to submerge into a secluded sea. The individual may not realise that she is doing so, and how long she has been gone. Deeply concealed and powerful intuitive forces surface abruptly and begin cascading like melting ice water when the mind can hear its own echo in solitary self-reflection. The individual needs to escape from the noise and contamination of other people to cleanse the spirit and invite cosmic electricity to devour her body. There is a personal relationship with the celestial space, she can hear the heartbeat of the stars and the moon sing to her while she secretly weeps. The individual has an emotionally telepathic auric field and she absorbs the psychic circuits of her company. Too much social contact and these start to sizzle into an internal state of static of psychic waste that only relieves itself when she leaves and goes off alone. Here, she begins to walk on a shoreline with a sparkling lagoon reaching into the stars. With Uranus in the 12th intuition and response has been primed and cultivated in previous lifetimes. At the bottom of her secluded sea, she has inherited a clam shell that has been constructed by her in the past. Inside the pearl is an electric blue crystal ball striking mesmerising with prophetic lightning that reveals visions from future selves in future lifetimes.

Self-reflection can be like a psychotherapy session with Uranus in the 12th. Secret inner conditions, receptive insights, and prophetic revelations begin to glean with clarity the deeper inside that she goes. She can experience a complete renewal of perspective when she is alone and see through the clear and authentic glass. When she is in this zone, she begins floating through the collective ocean like she is hovering in space, the whole universe is hers to play, experiment, and converse with. The genius and its muse take this opportunity to visit, and in the swirling fog of the night take ahold of her pen, paintbrush, or instrument and conduct a creative, hypnotic ceremony until sunrise. There can be difficulty materialising these grand experiences and images in daily life, artistry and poetry can be the only form of interpretation. There seems to be innate spiritual wisdom and knowing written by past selves, and the individual may have practiced astronomy, astrology, occultist studies, or sciences in previous lives. She may be essentially private and secretive about these psychic encounters and abilities. Neptune rules the 12th house and the nature is inclusively receptive, but deception and trickery weaves through this fantasy. Plato referred to Uranus as The World of Divine Ideas and spiritual enlightenment, but this active energy also generates excessive nervous stimulation. Part of the conflict can be discriminating between future prophecy, the flashing memories of past lives, and emotional anxieties. The inner experience can become so intensely aroused that she becomes anxious or panicked when she is alone. The sleep cycle can also be strange with Uranus in the 12th. There may be periods of lost, disrupted, and difficulty getting to sleep followed by long spells of inability to wake, naps, and slumber. Dreams are designed to be bright, vivid, ultra unusual, symbolic and precognitive. They can also be quite intrusive, nightmarish, or infuse into memory and confuse as reality.

There can also be a lack of internal stability with Uranus in the 12th that results in difficulty sourcing the light of identity. Everybody can see her light except for her, and this true and heavenly illuminant radiates from the crystal ball deep inside. The individual may struggle with the sense of being a manufactured clone with nothing special to offer. There can be a tendency to cling to comforting people in social situations and shyness around new groups. The experience of Uranus in the 12th seduces one into the self-secluded search to find the scattered ingredients that blend to form the unique cosmic substance she can express through the physical interface. There is a powerfully ingrained and consuming response to collective suffering. Without provocation she can become suddenly overexcited, agitated, stressed, or teary, suffocating beneath the wave and back to breathing again in a moment. This can stimulate the desire to separate herself from this inherent sensitivity or risk being drowned. But when she cuts off her compassion and empathy, she loses a part of herself. To relieve the nervous tension and desperate exile, the individual must learn to let the spirit of emotion, connection, and intuition spontaneously flow through her and changes with the pace elevated frequencies experienced by herself. Uranus in the 12th so intimately connective that her internal poisons pollute the collective oversoul, when she detoxes her essence she cleanses the collective also. She must learn to surrender the secrets, traumas, and insecurities that contaminate her insides to supportive and accepting ears. There can be vague and terrifying fears of being abandoned, never waking from sleep, never feeling substantial or real, or never being able to express what is truly meaningful inside. Even if it pains her, she must learn to release the hidden declarations that can change the greater good. When the mind becomes numb and she stops feeling, it’s like an alien invasion. Her spirit is lifting but her body is descending, she can feel trapped inside herself and inside the peripheries of the world. Every stroke of genius, inspiration, and psychic virtuosity resides in the ocean within, and she comes to realise that she has always known, the only way out is in.

-Cherry

art: Salty Tears and Shipwrecks by Mel Macklin

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posted September 21, 2019 01:25 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm copying and pasting this from a facebook group, and someone called AstroCherry.

I need to read the whole thing, but just remembered it.

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posted September 21, 2019 04:38 AM            

The reason I included Pisces or 12th house energy therein is that it is really bugging me because of the 12th/1st house.

Like I have Mars in 6th conj 7th. So i also read Mercury conj Dsc-because Mars brings the 6th house energy through to thw the Dsc axis.

Yes ofcourse Mars in 6th suggests a hostile work environment-CHECK and perhaps an active approach to health matters.

And Mars in 7th is an aggressive partner or an atttaction to physically active types-CHECK.All the guys i have dated have a "gym toned" physique.

But I notice how incredibly talkative I get when in relationships.I also tend to critique my partner a lot As well as define myself according to my partner(Mars in 6th opp Asc).

posted September 22, 2019 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
If anyone has this placement and is curious I find google has some decent info. I can relate!.....and its pretty darn awesome! Oh! btw my Uranus is retrograde.

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I have Uranus Scorpio 3H conj NN trine Mercury 11H and square Saturn 11H.

posted September 25, 2019 11:02 PM            

Someone with a Planet conjunct the Ascendant becomes that energy/archetype/symbol personified.

Edgar Cayce had Uranus conjunct the Ascendant. He was materially, emotionally, mentally, and ability wise an extremist and rather unusual. He constantly swung from highs to lows and back and forth. He had little moderation or balance. He was hyper intuitive/psychically sensitive (further indicated in increase by the very strong Pisces, strong Neptune, and strong Jupiter).

He was unusually tall and lanky for his times (6' 2", probably equivalent for today for around 6' 5" or so). He had Leo Rising, and his torso was quite long. He was always considered an odd ball and eccentric by others. He was an extremist in love and romance especially. He was VERY tempted by other women multiple times in his life (though he never did succumb to actually cheating on his wife, though it seemed he came close a couple of times).

His own Readings and guidance spoke to his predominate Uranian side, and on more than one occasion.

It was like his Spirit, in creating his Soul, threw together some of the this Spirit's very fastest vibratory other lives/energies/memories (Ra Ta, Asapha, Uhjltd, Lucius--spiritual teachers and holistic healers who helped MANY in their lifetimes), in with some of the very slowest vibratory lifetimes (the two John Bainbridges and Xenon [who committed suicide]), but in a way where they did not blend or balance out each other to reach a mid or mean, but stood as stark contrasts and like a wild pendulum, he swung back and forth between these extreme expressions, trying to find balance and integration between his Light and lacking in Light sides.

In other words, there is something very "bi polar" like about predominate Uranus, such as when it conjuncts the Ascendant or is in the 1st House and the Planet closest to the Ascendant.

posted October 03, 2019 05:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
How does this placement affect a person? What qualities do they possess? I have this in the 12th house and conjunct ascendant but at this point don't know how to interpret it as it relates to me. I do realize though that this is an exaltation but I need your perspectives to see how I can relate with this combination.

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I have Uranus in Scorpio, in the 5th. It means, for me, I have a taste for out of the ordinairy men, no macho's, no standard 13 in-a-dozen guy, no guy with a decent haircut. I used to only like the guys with long hair. I am married to a red-head.
I also have out-of-the-ordinairy hobbies, like...astrology and genealogy wich are quite obsessions to me, well, that's Pluto in 5th as well

posted October 03, 2019 04:42 PM            

I still don't know what to think about this. I tend to be very intuitive, but I can also ignore feelings or hunches, if I don't want to believe something (it will nag at me, until I stop ignoring it, but I think that happens to everyone).

posted October 03, 2019 05:01 PM            

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Wow Its so deep! But yeah, read it and get back on how you found it.

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posted October 04, 2019 01:13 AM            

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Galactic, I have more moderation and balance to me. I'm also short, but neither of my parents were particularly tall.

I still don't know what to think about this. I tend to be very intuitive, but I can also ignore feelings or hunches, if I don't want to believe something (it will nag at me, until I stop ignoring it, but I think that happens to everyone).

I have Uranus at 0*Scorpio, and my ascendant is 2*55 Scorpio. It's inconjunct my Moon/Venus and trine my Mars. Opposes my Sun widely.

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Dare I open this can of worms here? I doth dareth..

Ok, my Mother was unusually psychic/intuitive. She told me in my teens, that when "I" was born, that it was a little while after the baby was delivered, that she saw a bright light (i.e. Soul me) enter into the babies body.

Then surprise surprise a couple years or so later, I read in the Edgar Cayce work, about the potential difference between the physical and spiritual birth times, and how this difference can change a chart.

Or in other words, it's the spiritual birth time that is accurate. But, Cayce's guidance was also pragmatic, and while they spoke to the validity of astrology, they also downplayed it, since after all, it was all about indications and it is our Freewill which is what truly matters, and in a very real sense, is making a new chart for a new life as we speak.

Which is why in one reading, the guidance basically said just go ahead and use the physical birth time. After all, unless you have a Cayce on hand to directly and accurately check the Akashic records, then it's hard to figure out the spiritual birth time and if there was any noticeable difference between the physical and spiritual times.

However, this is where the looks aspect of astrology comes in quite handy. It's the quick and dirty method of rectifying a chart, but it takes a very holistic and practiced perceptual capacity to really accurately analyze. Many people just cannot hold that much simultaneous info in their heads (it's kind of like a long, complex game of chess).

Then there is the long and more difficult method of rectification via major life events, transits, etc.

Genetics has nothing directly to do with astrology and vice versa. Astrology doesn't CAUSE anything. It's only a symbolic map that reflects and indicates what's going on at a physical and consciousness level.

Meaning your looks have nothing to do with astrology but with genetics. However, you choose the moment of birth (spiritual birth) to symbolically reflect and correlate with the genetic patterns chosen.

An interesting question and seeming paradox to ponder is, why is it that some folks (like myself) look EXACTLY like the astrology outlines, and yet a percentage of folks look little to nothing like same should look?

Is it logical? It shouldn't just apply to some and not others.

But maybe Cayce's guidance is right about this, like they have been proven to be about many other things, and that the spiritual/energetic birth time is the more accurate one, and that these are at times, even many hours off/different than the physical birth time?

But, there are plenty of cases in the Readings where the person was told that the spiritual and physical birth times were quite close.

This is not something most into astrology like to hear, because being human, we like, want, and psychologically hunger for certainty. Well this throws a big ole monkey wrench into the comfort of certainty. Heck, I don't particularly "like" the concept either, but I go where truth and evidence leads. This is one of the hard truths that has made me reluctant to do others charts. You'll often see me preface chart analysis with caveats like, "Provided the chart is very accurate" or the like.

When one has been deeply studying astrology for over 2 decades, and having done hundreds and hundreds of chart, too often you come across charts that just don't fit well at all (physically, personality wise, character wise, life pattern wise, etc), but if you adjust a Rising Sign or two, fit quite well, and it can't ALL be due to inaccurate time keeping.

Unfortunately, there are a few cases in the Cayce readings where the spiritual and physical birth time difference varied by a whole half a day or a bit more. So that is apparently a potential.

This is a very long and indirect way of saying that it's possible your chart is not as accurate as you think it is.

But Uranus is known for the extremes and the unusual. Hence, while greater than average height is common with those with Uranus conjunct the Ascendant, it's also possible for the person to be shorter than average.

The body parts of the Sign(s) involved also get emphasized in unusual and/or extreme ways. We all know what Scorpio corresponds to, and of course it's not so obvious with women, but males with Scorpio Uranus conjunct Scorpio Ascendant tend to be unusual or extreme in that regard, either rather above average, or rather below average. Pretty much anything but average. That kind of seems to be Uranus's core motto and archetypal pattern.

posted October 04, 2019 01:21 AM            

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I'm copying and pasting this from a facebook group, and someone called AstroCherry.

I need to read the whole thing, but just remembered it.

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posted October 07, 2019 07:13 AM            

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The body parts of the Sign(s) involved also get emphasized in unusual and/or extreme ways. We all know what Scorpio corresponds to, and of course it's not so obvious with women, but males with Scorpio Uranus conjunct Scorpio Ascendant tend to be unusual or extreme in that regard, either rather above average, or rather below average. Pretty much anything but average. That kind of seems to be Uranus's core motto and archetypal pattern.

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And what about Jupiter conjunct Asc?

posted October 08, 2019 10:03 AM            

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And what about Jupiter conjunct Asc?

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Are you seriously asking, subtly joking, and/or being coy here?

posted October 08, 2019 11:28 AM            

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Are you seriously asking, subtly joking, and/or being coy here?

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Ow my god, now I am getting insecure.... I... was...serious...(shame)...have I said something weird?

posted October 08, 2019 12:24 PM            

Jupiter is known to expand. When it's pretty close to the Ascendant, then it often indicates an increase in both height and broadness of the body, vitalizes the body, and often expands and vitalizes the part of the body that the Sign rules.

So yes, when there is an accurate birth time (meaning the physical birth time is accurate, and the spiritual and physical birth times are close), then Scorp Jupiter conjunct Scorpio Ascendant would most times indicate for a man, an above average size.

For women, it could indicate that as well, but it could also indicate an above average sensitivity and thus sex is likely to be quite physically pleasurable for her (provided other patterns in the chart don't indicate trauma or the like). (Venus and Sun could also indicate similar to Jupiter in this pleasurable and sensitive area).

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Lol no worries, was mostly subtly joking myself.

Jupiter is known to expand. When it's pretty close to the Ascendant, then it often indicates an increase in both height and broadness of the body, vitalizes the body, and often expands and vitalizes the part of the body that the Sign rules.

So yes, when there is an accurate birth time (meaning the physical birth time is accurate, and the spiritual and physical birth times are close), then Scorp Jupiter conjunct Scorpio Ascendant would most times indicate for a man, an above average size.

For women, it could indicate that as well, but it could also indicate an above average sensitivity and thus sex is likely to be quite physically pleasurable for her (provided other patterns in the chart don't indicate trauma or the like). (Venus and Sun could also indicate similar to Jupiter in this pleasurable and sensitive area).

But believe it or not, Jupiter is more moderate and balanced than Uranus, and thus while often indicating an expansion, Uranus can indicate greater differences because it's meaning is that of THE extremes and THE unusual. We're potentially talking donkey dongs or micros here. The more closely conjunct the Ascendant, the more pronounced it will be.

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Ok, well I have Jupiter conjunct Asc by only 1 degree. It is in the first house and in Cancer. I can guess what that means about my appearance and it really hurts me to say that it does not apply to me. On the contrary, I am talking about micros here. Like Uranus work. It really bothers me. I have a well aspected Jupiter, it is trine my Venus in Scorpio. Does it make any sense?

posted October 08, 2019 09:13 PM            

I assume you are referring to very small/flat breasts? No, it doesn't make much sense astrologically. The Venus trine to your Ascendant/Jupiter conjunction from a Yin Sign, should further emphasize the indication of a more full feminine figure. What's going on with your Moon, especially in relation to Saturn and/or the South Node?

Did you see my earlier post to Teasel about the potential difference between the spiritual/energetic birth time and the physical birth time, and how a difference can change the chart?

Character and personality wise, would you describe yourself as an uber-Jupitarian? Because if that is truly your chart, then Jupiter is indicated to be VERY strong.

Btw, I understand why you would feel insecure about this, but I don't think it's a negative thing in any objective sense. In truth, something I personally really like about women that I find attractive who have small/flat breasts is that usually their nipples are quite sensitive and that's quite a turn on for me (as I GREATLY enjoy pleasuring my sexual partner. The more pleasure she feels, the more I get hot and bothered). Screw society and what it thinks, or what shallow men or women think.

But I understand insecurity, and it's ok to feel that way, just try to look at things from a bigger picture perspective, and realize that body parts at the end of the day aren't that important. I'm in an open relationship with my partner, and goodness, it hasn't been easy on the ego hearing about this or that unusually large man, when I'm quite in the mean/mid of white average. It certainly can stir up some insecurity. But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter that much, and she says (and truly means) that I'm the best lover she has ever had to date.

posted October 09, 2019 04:25 AM            

[B] Hi Hierophantom,

I assume you are referring to very small/flat breasts?

Yup, I look like a 14 year old. Who just show a little bit mountains. And I am over 40! My mother always said, it will grow when you get older....nope I instinctively felt I would always have this.

No, it doesn't make much sense astrologically. The Venus trine to your Ascendant/Jupiter conjunction from a Yin Sign, should further emphasize the indication of a more full feminine figure.

That's what I thought so I can't understand.

What's going on with your Moon, especially in relation to Saturn and/or the South Node?

Moon is Aquarius in 9. No relation to Saturn or SN, but opposite Mars in Leo in 3. Trine Pluto in Libra in 5. Square Venus and Uranus in Scorpio in 5.
Hmm, again Uranus....My 4th house (house of cancer) has Saturn in Leo. Maybe that's it! Ruler of ascendant square Uranus. And the accompanying parts of my ruler is breasts...

Did you see my earlier post to Teasel about the potential difference between the spiritual/energetic birth time and the physical birth time, and how a difference can change the chart?

Yes, but I don't know my spiritual time. When I was pregnant, i felt the spirit enter when I was a few weeks pregnant. Pluto in 5 so no full pregnancy.

Character and personality wise, would you describe yourself as an uber-Jupitarian? Because if that is truly your chart, then Jupiter is indicated to be VERY strong.

Jupiter is my dominant yes. I don't know if I am an uber-jupitarian. How would you describe them? Men think I am very attractive, my head/eyes and when I enter the room, they all look.

Btw, I understand why you would feel insecure about this, but I don't think it's a negative thing in any objective sense. In truth, something I personally really like about women that I find attractive who have small/flat breasts is that usually their nipples are quite sensitive and that's quite a turn on for me (as I GREATLY enjoy pleasuring my sexual partner. The more pleasure she feels, the more I get hot and bothered). Screw society and what it thinks, or what shallow men or women think.

Don't feel anything in the nipples. But maybe I have blocked them out because I really don't want to be touched there. Because it immediately triggers my dissatisfaction and it is a really turn off. Scorpio is also really dominant in my chart so it is all about the genitals anyway.

But I understand insecurity, and it's ok to feel that way, just try to look at things from a bigger picture perspective, and realize that body parts at the end of the day aren't that important.

Ow I do understand the bigger picture. If I do had a Jupitarian chest, I would have attracted the wrong guys. Now it is about my intelligence and not the body. That is one thing I am grateful at but I do feel less of a woman, and I do feel like a child, internally and externally.

I'm in an open relationship with my partner, and goodness, it hasn't been easy on the ego hearing about this or that unusually large man, when I'm quite in the mean/mid of white average. It certainly can stir up some insecurity. But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter that much, and she says (and truly means) that I'm the best lover she has ever had to date.

Well, at least you are near average, so you have absolutely nothing to complain about...
I also get very frustrated when women with nice b cups are complaing about their size. I wish I had a nice b. It would make it a little bit more breast.
My husband is very happy with me and does not understand why I am so dissatisfied. I am a skinny woman so I have skinny breasts. But hey, he also has nothing to complain about. It is not about what other people think, it is about feeling a woman and getting in touch with your own sensuality and sexuality, and certain body parts play a role in it. And if it wasn't divergent, I would have heard nothing about it from men, who bullied me. So clearly it is not normal.

posted October 16, 2019 08:36 PM            

The Soul will in a sense lightly touch and infuse it's energies a bit here and there over time, getting the babies body ready for the near physical birth, more full merging.

If a Soul did this energetic connection all at once, it could burn out the brain and more electrically sensitive parts of the body.

So I have no doubt that you felt the Soul come in at fairly early time. But it's not the same as completing the energetic connection like with what happens near physical birth.

Yes, unfortunately it is not easy to know the Soul birth without a Cayce type around. However, there are different chart rectification techniques.

Sorry to hear about your loss.