posted September 23, 2019 02:19 PM            

I just looked over a chart that has a Leo MC and a 5-planet Virgo stellium, 4 personal planets in the 10th house. The fifth is in the 11th house.

This person is asking about career options with these kinds of placements.

posted September 24, 2019 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
Per the moderator's suggestion, I am reposting this here too from Astrology for Beginners:

I just looked over a chart that has a Leo MC and a 5-planet Virgo stellium, 4 personal planets in the 10th house. The fifth is in the 11th house.

This person is asking about career options with these kinds of placements.

How can both energies be translated into a career?

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Career is one of the hardest things to see in a chart because it encompasses the whole person. You have to check trines, which are natural gifts. You have to see the NN, which is purpose. The MC plays into it, of course, but it is a complex issue.

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posted September 25, 2019 02:49 AM            

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How can both energies be translated into a career?

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Leo MC is ruled/disposited by Sun ... Sun is disposeitd by planet A ... planet A is disposited by planet B ... planet B is disposited by planet C.

So ... greatest job satisfaction will be found in a career that requires the skills of Sun+A+B+C

And ... highest earning potential will be found in work that requires the skills of the planets in the 6th house dispositor chain.

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For example :-

my Gemini MC -> Scorpio Mercury -> Sagittarius Mars -> Capricorn Jupiter -> Virgo Saturn -> Scorpio Mercury made accountancy a satisfying career for me (and it became more so when increased experience+qualifications enabled me to also use the Leo Pluto -> Scorpio Sun dispositior chain of Mercury).

But ... in terms of earnings ... my Pisces 6th -> Libra Neptune -> Libra Venus and my Pisces 6th -> Capricorn Jupiter -> Virgo Saturn -> Scorpio Mercury -> Leo Pluto/Sagittarius Mars were the most financially rewarding dispositior chains for me*.

(*Because Neptune-Venus in 1st house enabled me to work in the people-orientated field of audit/management accountancy, rather than the office-orientated field of book-keeping.)

posted September 25, 2019 02:47 PM            

One question-what do you do if there are multiple planets in a sign? Do you read the chains for each? I'm assuming no planet takes priority over the others in the same sign.

Also, would you apply the House interpretation to each of the planets in the chain?

posted September 25, 2019 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Career is one of the hardest things to see in a chart because it encompasses the whole person. You have to check trines, which are natural gifts. You have to see the NN, which is purpose. The MC plays into it, of course, but it is a complex issue.

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This is an interesting point, especially with this chart I'm reading...because there is an overwhelming amount of trines! I'm a little intimidated because I'm not sure where to start. Would you follow Graham's suggestion about the chain and read the trines for each planet involved?

posted September 25, 2019 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
[b]Graham, thank you for your help! This is helping me go in the appropriate direction with the reading.

One question-what do you do if there are multiple planets in a sign? Do you read the chains for each? I'm assuming no planet takes priority over the others in the same sign.
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Nevermind, I just re-read carefully and understand how the chains work. Thanks!

The second question still stands: do you read the house interpretation for the planets in the chain or only the last planet?

posted September 25, 2019 04:59 PM            

I looked at NN. I looked at trines. She had many trines. I looked at the houses of the trines too, as well as the interaction between the planets in the trines.
I think she had a Yod too which is gold on seeing purpose.

Of course, we look at the MC, but this is not the main thing in seeing the best career for the person.It is one piece.

I honestly do not like doing career. Once, you find the likes and gifts, you have to surmise the possible careers and this is kind of brain taxing. I do it for my clients but I don't enjoy career.

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posted September 27, 2019 02:38 AM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
Nevermind, I just re-read carefully and understand how the chains work. Thanks!

The second question still stands: do you read the house interpretation for the planets in the chain or only the last planet?

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posted September 27, 2019 03:39 AM            

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I honestly do not like doing career. Once, you find the likes and gifts, you have to surmise the possible careers and this is kind of brain taxing. I do it for my clients but I don't enjoy career.

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posted September 27, 2019 11:33 PM            

So far I'm seeing both the MC and 6th House chains are pointing to the same planet: Virgo Mercury in 10H. The trines are telling me that this is a perceptive individual with a natural talent for writing.

The NN suggests living life unrestrained, so free-agent work. It's starting to look like the chart of someone who can be a writer and actually make money from it. However, the 3rd house is empty, BUT its ruler is in the 2nd. Would this still count?

posted September 28, 2019 04:25 AM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
Per the moderator's suggestion, I am reposting this here too from Astrology for Beginners:

I just looked over a chart that has a Leo MC and a 5-planet Virgo stellium, 4 personal planets in the 10th house. The fifth is in the 11th house.

This person is asking about career options with these kinds of placements.

How can both energies be translated into a career?

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With the Stellium in Virgo,I wouldn't advise them to exacerbate the energy by doing something heavily focused on more detail.They are already high strung "as is" with all that Mercurial energy.

What they need is calm and centredness.To get back to their spiritual essence or go into healing related fields that focus more on spirit vigilance than mental alertness etc.

I agree with Lynn Kroiner that the stellium energy should look to the opposite sign or energy house for release. As there is too much "focus" and charge in the area of life that that stellium falls under.

In this case,the stellium may just exacerbate the nervous tension if the native chooses to work in a Virgo-related environment i.e a n environment focused on detail and precision (Finance for instance)rather the ultimate goal may be to learn to "chill out"(Pisces).

posted September 28, 2019 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
With the Stellium in Virgo,I wouldn't advise them to exacerbate the energy by doing something heavily focused on more detail.They are already high strung "as is" with all that Mercurial energy.

What they need is calm and centredness.To get back to their spiritual essence or go into healing related fields that focus more on spirit vigilance than mental alertness etc.

I agree with Lynn Kroiner that the stellium energy should look to the opposite sign or energy house for release. As there is too much "focus" and charge in the area of life that that stellium falls under.

In this case,the stellium may just exacerbate the nervous tension if the native chooses to work in a Virgo-related environment i.e a n environment focused on detail and precision (Finance for instance)rather the ultimate goal may be to learn to "chill out"(Pisces).

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True....I didn't think about that perspective as well. Haha, more things are making sense!

posted September 28, 2019 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
I went back to the chart and applied both of your suggestions: the trines, NN, MC chain, and 6th House chain.

So far I'm seeing both the MC and 6th House chains are pointing to the same planet: Virgo Mercury in 10H. The trines are telling me that this is a perceptive individual with a natural talent for writing.

The NN suggests living life unrestrained, so free-agent work. It's starting to look like the chart of someone who can be a writer and actually make money from it. However, the 3rd house is empty, BUT its ruler is in the 2nd. Would this still count?

At this point, would you start looking into asteroids for more clues?

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posted September 28, 2019 05:39 PM            

10H Leo --> Virgo Sun --> Virgo Mercury

6H Aries --> Virgo Mars --> Virgo Mercury

posted September 29, 2019 05:14 AM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
Sure, here it is:

10H Leo --> Virgo Sun --> Virgo Mercury

6H Aries --> Virgo Mars --> Virgo Mercury

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posted September 30, 2019 05:50 AM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
I forgot to ask-there's a planet in the 6th house. Should I follow the dispositor chain for that one too?

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So, the NEEDS of Mars have to be accommodated (to maximise 6th house earning potential) - but the talents/resources available to Mars will be a factor in determining the likelihood of the chart owner being able to get (and perform well) in the desired job.

posted October 01, 2019 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by cthonicstar:
[b]I forgot to ask-there's a planet in the 6th house. Should I follow the dispositor chain for that one too?

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So, the NEEDS of Mars have to be accommodated (to maximise 6th house earning potential) - but the talents/resources available to Mars will be a factor in determining the likelihood of the chart owner being able to get (and perform well) in the desired job.

Hence ... meeting the needs of planets in the dispositior chain is the key to achieving 10th house job satisfaction, and maximising 6th house remuneration. ... But, the planets disposited by them add to the skills/talents of the job-seeking chart owner. [/B][/QUOTE]

Understood. That includes the 10th House stellium as well--the Virgo Mercury would be drawing resources from the other planets in the stellium, correct?

posted October 02, 2019 02:09 AM            

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Understood. That includes the 10th House stellium as well--the Virgo Mercury would be drawing resources from the other planets in the stellium, correct?

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Now I have another question-how does the 2nd house fit into all this? Every career horoscope I see talks about the 2nd house.

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