posted September 26, 2019 08:08 PM            

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posted September 26, 2019 08:17 PM            

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posted September 26, 2019 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would say that the person needs a partner to share depth with these house rulers

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posted September 26, 2019 09:09 PM            

If her Sun hits his MC, she is elevated through him.

I think Kate had this with William.

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posted September 26, 2019 09:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
We will call the person who marries a wealthy person "she" and the wealthy person "he" for our example.

If her Sun hits his MC, she is elevated through him.

I think Kate had this with William.

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My taurus venus is exactly on my bf's Midheaven/chiron and my sun is conjunct by 9 in his 10H.
This is going to sound really bad...

Its actually the opposite for us. I have elevated him and his status. He had absolutely nothing when we met and was addicted to heroin for 13 years. Because of our relationship (because I have my **** together) he's treating his addiction with a doctor, gotten his license back, got a good job, a place to live (my house), ect, ect. All of these things are wonderful and I'm really proud of him but.... I don't want to have to be that backbone for anyone anymore. There's a theme in my life with relationships and I'm the one who is like the catalyst for men to get their life together and "grow up" and I'm sick of it. I resent him now because of the dependency not to mention all of the differences between us but I just wish he'd hurry up and get on his feet so I can move on to find someone who I can build myself up with and don't have to worry about any of those things.

My 7H cusp is sagittarius, jupiter in the 8H capricorn. Midheaven is Aquarius with uranus in the 7H and I really do want someone who's just got his **** together that I can respect lol. I don't care about money, but I do care about stability and not being dependent on me for those reasons.

posted September 26, 2019 09:35 PM            

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posted September 26, 2019 09:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sun has to go to the MC, I think, not Venus.

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posted September 26, 2019 10:09 PM            

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posted September 26, 2019 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Does your chart have Chiron conj the DSC? What does your Vesta do?

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My chiron is at 2 gemini, my ascendant/nn at 6 gemini.
Vesta in cancer 2H trine saturn 6H, opposite jupiter

posted September 26, 2019 10:36 PM            

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posted September 26, 2019 10:40 PM            

I did not see something before. I thought he had Chiron/Mercury but it is Chiron/Venus/Uranus.

OK---love is super painful for him and it is hard for him to commit and also he attracts people who want to be victims.

Also, you have an exact Venus/Chiron conjunction.

This relationship must be soo painful. It is painful to look at the chart lol

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posted September 26, 2019 10:42 PM            

Your mother looked like she smothered you but if it was really bad, asteroids would show more.

Where is the Sado asteroid in your chart.

With you and him, I cannot see how you stay together lol

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posted September 27, 2019 05:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I was reading about the ruler of your 7H being in the 8H means you will marry for money or acquire wealth through your spouse. The ruler of my Midheaven is in my 7H and supposedly, that could mean being married to your work. This seems pretty generic to me and none of my partners have been "well off" and I'm definitely not tied to my career lol. But it did get me thinking about what are some aspects in the natal chart that can show about the marriage partner's life.

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The 1st house,the ruler represents YOU. The 7th house and ruler of the 7th represents the partner.

So whilst the Ic represents your roots and emotional security.The Mc(being 4th from the 7th) represents the partner's roots and emotional security.

The interpretations are narrowly based on the assumption that the 1st house ruler is Aries, the 7th is Venus etc.

So when Venus is in the 8th(the 8th is 2nd house from the 7th), the partner(7th) has money(8th is 2nd from 7th house and with Venus therein)

This is the premise of the interpretation. But I would add that if Venus is in Taurus/Cancer/Virgo/Cap this may be true i.e the partner may have money or be financially comfortable-as both Tau/Can/Vir/Cap are all for creature comforts and are careful with financial security.

So in your case, Gemini Asc is YOU.And the 1st house represents YOU. This meaning that transits to Mercury and aspects therein are important for personal/ physical growth or changes.

The 7th house from the 1st has Uranus therein(ruled by Jupiter). So I would look at transits to Jupiter(ruler or the 7th) AND Uranus for your partner or important partnerships

Jupiter in 8th suggests that your partners are likely to be the type who like friendship in love.They are also Jupiter ruled i.e from a foreign country or religion,know many languages,well travelled, the happy-go lucky type of people or academically inclined etc.

When we have Jupiter in the "2nd" house(remember that the 7th is the partner) so their "2nd" is your 8th, this would typically suggest that the partner has a very laissez faire attitude towards their financed.

Jupiter in 2nd means the partner tends to be the type to be open-ended with money or is quite a spender. But again we must consider that Capricorn dominates the 8th house cusp.So we find a lot of Saturnine energy coming into the affairs of money.

The combination of Jupiter and Cap energy suggests that there is a back/forth swing in spending money and/or dealing with finances i.e the partner is slow to accumulate wealth or establish themselves financially.

But when right on the cusp of doing that, they are in danger of spontaneously blowing their fortune overnight or spending it all in a short space of time.

You complained that you are the one who forces your partners to "grow up". This is also indicative of Venus opp Saturn in your chart.

Venus is the solar or natural ruler of the 7th house-whatever the Asc.And its aspects must also be considered in tandem with the natal 7th for the prospective natal chart.

When Saturn opp Venus, its either YOU take the reibs and steer the relationship by taking care of the "admin" part of the relationship and being the grown up. Or your partner does.

The opposition also suggests that there is a pull/push here i.e at times you want to assume the Saturn role of paternal parent. At other times, you just want to be the one who is having fun. You want a balanced switch and not to be in command ALL the time.

I have said this before but I feel the Saturn/Venus ,Venus in Cap or Saturn in 7th/Libra partner is the partner to "beat". In that they may not always be remembered for being "fun".But they are remembered for being instrumental in having the person "grow up".

You notice that your partner has exalted Saturn in Libra? Which suggests that he tends to take relationships seriously and is heavily influenced by a partner.

And add to that, your Saturn sits in his 4th house.of emotional security. So you also affected him as a disciplinarian to "clean up his act" etc.

He has Saturn/Jupiter conj in Libra to echo.your Jupiter in Cap.And your Sun in 12th reflects his Sun/Neptune conjunction.

posted September 27, 2019 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The 1st house,the ruler represents YOU. The 7th house and ruler of the 7th represents the partner.

So whilst the Ic represents your roots and emotional security.The Mc(being 4th from the 7th) represents the partner's roots and emotional security.

The interpretations are narrowly based on the assumption that the 1st house ruler is Aries, the 7th is Venus etc.

So when Venus is in the 8th(the 8th is 2nd house from the 7th), the partner(7th) has money(8th is 2nd from 7th house and with Venus therein)

This is the premise of the interpretation. But I would add that if Venus is in Taurus/Cancer/Virgo/Cap this may be true i.e the partner may have money or be financially comfortable-as both Tau/Can/Vir/Cap are all for creature comforts and are careful with financial security.

So in your case, Gemini Asc is YOU.And the 1st house represents YOU. This meaning that transits to Mercury and aspects therein are important for personal/ physical growth or changes.

The 7th house from the 1st has Uranus therein(ruled by Jupiter). So I would look at transits to Jupiter(ruler or the 7th) AND Uranus for your partner or important partnerships

Jupiter in 8th suggests that your partners are likely to be the type who like friendship in love.They are also Jupiter ruled i.e from a foreign country or religion,know many languages,well travelled, the happy-go lucky type of people or academically inclined etc.

When we have Jupiter in the "2nd" house(remember that the 7th is the partner) so their "2nd" is your 8th, this would typically suggest that the partner has a very laissez faire attitude towards their financed.

Jupiter in 2nd means the partner tends to be the type to be open-ended with money or is quite a spender. But again we must consider that Capricorn dominates the 8th house cusp.So we find a lot of Saturnine energy coming into the affairs of money.

The combination of Jupiter and Cap energy suggests that there is a back/forth swing in spending money and/or dealing with finances i.e the partner is slow to accumulate wealth or establish themselves financially.

But when right on the cusp of doing that, they are in danger of spontaneously blowing their fortune overnight or spending it all in a short space of time.

You complained that you are the one who forces your partners to "grow up". This is also indicative of Venus opp Saturn in your chart.

Venus is the solar or natural ruler of the 7th house-whatever the Asc.And its aspects must also be considered in tandem with the natal 7th for the prospective natal chart.

When Saturn opp Venus, its either YOU take the reibs and steer the relationship by taking care of the "admin" part of the relationship and being the grown up. Or your partner does.

The opposition also suggests that there is a pull/push here i.e at times you want to assume the Saturn role of paternal parent. At other times, you just want to be the one who is having fun. You want a balanced switch and not to be in command ALL the time.

I have said this before but I feel the Saturn/Venus ,Venus in Cap or Saturn in 7th/Libra partner is the partner to "beat". In that they may not always be remembered for being "fun".But they are remembered for being instrumental in having the person "grow up".

You notice that your partner has exalted Saturn in Libra? Which suggests that he tends to take relationships seriously and is heavily influenced by a partner.

And add to that, your Saturn sits in his 4th house.of emotional security. So you also affected him as a disciplinarian to "clean up his act" etc.

He has Saturn/Jupiter conj in Libra to echo.your Jupiter in Cap.And your Sun in 12th reflects his Sun/Neptune conjunction.

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Oh my, I love how knowledgeable you are! When you have time, can you write one for me please? I'm a Cancer Rising with my Sagittarius Moon and Pluto placed in the 6th House. I have a Capricorn Descendant, with its ruler, Saturn, placed in the 11th House of community, achievements, technology, and social media. I have Sun square Saturn and Moon trine Saturn, but they're separated aspects. Mercury trine Saturn is an applying on, by an orb of 6 degrees. Let me know if you need more info!

posted September 27, 2019 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:

Oh my, I love how knowledgeable you are! When you have time, can you write one for me please? I'm a Cancer Rising with my Sagittarius Moon and Pluto placed in the 6th House. I have a Capricorn Descendant, with its ruler, Saturn, placed in the 11th House of community, achievements, technology, and social media. I have Sun square Saturn and Moon trine Saturn, but they're separated aspects. Mercury trine Saturn is an applying on, by an orb of 6 degrees. Let me know if you need more info!

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posted September 28, 2019 11:35 AM            

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posted September 28, 2019 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
There is a concept in Vedic called the Raj Yoga, which gives the native attributes such as marrying above one's class, and/or meeting people of power (kingmakers) who can give the native a social status way above what he/she was born into.

I recommend checking it out: Raj Yoga.

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Per Vedic, I have a mutual relationship between the lord of my 9th house and the lord of my 7th house. It's said this would elevate my status and recognition. I also have Saturn in lagna and Moon in Cancer (Raja Yoga) = to having a high Royal/govermental status. All could be brought through my spouse. (or myself)

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I was reading about the ruler of your 7H being in the 8H means you will marry for money or acquire wealth through your spouse. The ruler of my Midheaven is in my 7H and supposedly, that could mean being married to your work. This seems pretty generic to me and none of my partners have been "well off" and I'm definitely not tied to my career lol. But it did get me thinking about what are some aspects in the natal chart that can show about the marriage partner's life.

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Per Tropical, I have the ruler of my 7th house in the 8th house. With a heavy 8th house. I also have Juno conjunct Saturn in the 5th house. Most men that get attracted to me are a bit older than me. Which is ideal to me, haha. (My soul is too old lol). In my past relationships, I wouldn't say my whoever partner was RICH rich, but they had a decent life for themselves.

posted September 28, 2019 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
My taurus venus is exactly on my bf's Midheaven/chiron and my sun is conjunct by 9 in his 10H.
This is going to sound really bad...

Its actually the opposite for us. I have elevated him and his status. He had absolutely nothing when we met and was addicted to heroin for 13 years. Because of our relationship (because I have my **** together) he's treating his addiction with a doctor, gotten his license back, got a good job, a place to live (my house), ect, ect. All of these things are wonderful and I'm really proud of him but.... I don't want to have to be that backbone for anyone anymore. There's a theme in my life with relationships and I'm the one who is like the catalyst for men to get their life together and "grow up" and I'm sick of it. I resent him now because of the dependency not to mention all of the differences between us but I just wish he'd hurry up and get on his feet so I can move on to find someone who I can build myself up with and don't have to worry about any of those things.

My 7H cusp is sagittarius, jupiter in the 8H capricorn. Midheaven is Aquarius with uranus in the 7H and I really do want someone who's just got his **** together that I can respect lol. I don't care about money, but I do care about stability and not being dependent on me for those reasons.

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Neptune is also in the 8th; I feel like it's calling for boundaries when it comes to sharing money and property.

posted September 28, 2019 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
@ami and aries,
You two hit the nail on the head. Everything about his family and our synastry is absolutely dead on.

@aries, I do want someone like you described. My venus/saturn has lead me for a long time in relationship matters and I'm just sick of it lol. I want to be on the up side of this aspect. A solid, trustworthy, respectful partner. I've actually teetered on asexuality and the partner I'm with has a huge effect on my deeper wants and needs. My current bf has just completely turned me off of every aspect of a relationship and I think I had a lot to do with it. I've been attracting the people who need me, instead of the kind of person that I need.

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I think that it could also be that the solar 5th and 7th house rulers I.e Sun and Venus are both in the 12th house.

Both these planets cover romance and when both are in the 12th house,you tend to attract "projects"(at worst) or very idealistic /spiritual people (at best).

I think it's a matter of fine tuning what you put out I.e are you a sucker for a sob story? Do you find yourself extending a hand even when not asked?

Other people can also sense if they can take advantage of a person or can pull on our heartstrings -it happens because it's more an energy thing .

What we need to have are boundaries.So saying "no" is not bad and is actually very necessary so as to self preserve and be around to give to more people.

So this means that one should know when to give and when to pull back.Because if you dont know this difference, there will always be people who want you to "give" endlessly until you are drained.And still keep giving.

Love always feels "filling" -even when there is "giving",it feels expansive. It expands us as individuals and not necessarily our ego (therein is the difference )

Sometimes as Neptune folks-especially when on moon/venus or Sun, we can easily develop a "savior" or "Jesus" complex.

And if there is an added Saturn or Pluto in the mix with these planets,we can feel committed or invested in "changing" people's lives etc.

But the question really is; did they ask us to "change" their lives for them or are we doing it for us? For it is always the latter that speaks of the ego & self investment in outcomes -even as we claim "altruism".

Because it feels good to us and can even be addictive to be the "god" that swoops in to "save" the day.

And because we unconsciously know this,life keeps attracting to us stray cats/dogs with bleeding hearts and wide doe-like eyes because we are so intent to "fix".

So if we change our perspective I.e we steer clear of people out of rehab or trying to rebuild their lives etc,there will be change in whom we attract.

We can always say "I like you,but I can't be with you right now because you are still putting yourself together" or " I can only be your friend." Etc.