posted September 27, 2019 03:00 PM            

Recently I've discovered that I have a lot of Pluto energy in my chart. It's like a have a hidden Scorpio!

I feel a lot of Scorpio traits sometimes.
Is the below the reason?

- Sun (Cancer) square Pluto.
- Moon (Libra) conjunct Pluto.
- Moon 8th House.
- Jupiter 8th House.
- Saturn 8th House.
- Pluto (Libra) 8th House.
- Uranus in Scorpio.
- Lilith in Scorpio.
- Mars Trine Pluto
- Neptune Sextile Pluto
- Pluto Sextile Midheaven
- Pluto Quincunx Chiron

posted September 27, 2019 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yikes..that is a lot.How do you survive?

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posted September 27, 2019 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Can you explain Saturn in 8th for me?Well, at least according to your experience.

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Well, my Saturn is in Libra, not sure what influences comes from the 8th House, but decision making is even more painful from Saturn than my Libra Moon.

It's hard to commit to something, not because I'm afraid but because it's serious business to me. I only do it when I'm 101% sure.

Don't trust people easily.

The way I deal with difficulties that Saturn and the 8th House brings is that I've learned to accept changes and transformations. I also have a lot of Libra in my chart, and that keeps everything under control and balanced.

The Saturn wants to be old-fashioned but the 8th house wants a revolution!

posted September 27, 2019 06:05 PM            

But yes, but the stats that you outlined do contribute to an increased Plutonic attunement. It would be especially so if Pluto was in or near an Angle, or one of those Planets making a major aspect rules an Angle.

For your and especially other's sake, I hope that is balanced out with some strong attunement to the mid to fast vibratory symbols as well.

The Planets that most NEED to be counterbalanced by the Sun, Jupiter, Neptune, and/or Venus are Saturn, Mars, and Pluto (yellow Mercury also to a slightly lesser extent, but all intellect and no heart can be pretty ugly).

But, the Planets are much like colors in a rainbow or prism, and as a rainbow is a polarized refraction of the clear or "white" light, we need attunement to each of these symbols and centers ultimately to be fully whole.

Cayce's guidance gave some fascinating dissertations about this topic, and used Yeshua ("Jesus") as the ultimate example of a Soul who helpfully attuned to, balanced, integrated, and merged these all into one by using his freewill in a consistently positive and constructive manner.

Pointing out the essential nature of each center/planet/symbol of consciousness and pointing out that he mastered each principle, each level, each center.

Paraphrased, *In madness (Mars) became perfect, in love (Venus) became perfect, in mind (Mercury) became perfect, in death (Saturn) became perfect, in psychic (Uranus) became perfect, in the mystic (Neptune) became perfect, in consciousness (Pluto) became perfect), in strength (Jupiter) became perfect.

(both Jupiter and Neptune are very much at a violet type spectrum, but different shades. Mars and Pluto relate a lot to red, but also rather different shades and tones. Mars is basic red and Pluto like an aubergine, almost shading into the magenta/violet spectrum from the slow vibratory basic red. Saturn doesn't have so much a core color, as it most indicates an absence of light (aka "death"). However, Saturn in it's positive expressions and attunements, seems to relate to a deeper green).

Some of the symbols relate to the lower centers, some to the mid centers, and some the upper centers. We have all centers/endocrine glands for a reason, but we want to move towards the upper, faster vibratory centers, while keeping a balanced attunement with the lower, and eventually facilitating a perfect balance and integration between all major notes/colors/vibrations to unveil the pure, clear Light.

What we really don't want, and what easily becomes very destructive, is only attunement to the slow vibratory centers with little to no attunement to the mid and especially fast vibratory ones. You see the former in charts of psychopaths consistently when they are born that way and it wasn't some weird head accident or the like.

posted September 27, 2019 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
While there are some energetic connections and similarities between Pluto and Scorpio, there are also differences and generally Planets and Signs represent different things and levels.

But yes, but the stats that you outlined do contribute to an increased Plutonic attunement. It would be especially so if Pluto was in or near an Angle, or one of those Planets making a major aspect rules an Angle.

For your and especially other's sake, I hope that is balanced out with some strong attunement to the mid to fast vibratory symbols as well.

The Planets that most NEED to be counterbalanced by the Sun, Jupiter, Neptune, and/or Venus are Saturn, Mars, and Pluto (yellow Mercury also to a slightly lesser extent, but all intellect and no heart can be pretty ugly).

But, the Planets are much like colors in a rainbow or prism, and as a rainbow is a polarized refraction of the clear or "white" light, we need attunement to each of these symbols and centers ultimately to be fully whole.

Cayce's guidance gave some fascinating dissertations about this topic, and used Yeshua ("Jesus") as the ultimate example of a Soul who helpfully attuned to, balanced, integrated, and merged these all into one by using his freewill in a consistently positive and constructive manner.

Pointing out the essential nature of each center/planet/symbol of consciousness and pointing out that he mastered each principle, each level, each center.

Paraphrased, *In madness (Mars) became perfect, in love (Venus) became perfect, in mind (Mercury) became perfect, in death (Saturn) became perfect, in psychic (Uranus) became perfect, in the mystic (Neptune) became perfect, in consciousness (Pluto) became perfect), in strength (Jupiter) became perfect.

(both Jupiter and Neptune are very much at a violet type spectrum, but different shades. Mars and Pluto relate a lot to red, but also rather different shades and tones. Mars is basic red and Pluto like an aubergine, almost shading into the magenta/violet spectrum from the slow vibratory basic red. Saturn doesn't have so much a core color, as it most indicates an absence of light (aka "death"). However, Saturn in it's positive expressions and attunements, seems to relate to a deeper green).

Some of the symbols relate to the lower centers, some to the mid centers, and some the upper centers. We have all centers/endocrine glands for a reason, but we want to move towards the upper, faster vibratory centers, while keeping a balanced attunement with the lower, and eventually facilitating a perfect balance and integration between all major notes/colors/vibrations to unveil the pure, clear Light.

What we really don't want, and what easily becomes very destructive, is only attunement to the slow vibratory centers with little to no attunement to the mid and especially fast vibratory ones. You see the former in charts of psychopaths consistently when they are born that way and it wasn't some weird head accident or the like.

Some deep shite yo.

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Whoa! This was really detailed! Like you always do!
I really appreciate the time you toke writing all this.
Thank you!

posted September 28, 2019 02:38 AM            

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
Well, my Saturn is in Libra, not sure what influences comes from the 8th House, but decision making is even more painful from Saturn than my Libra Moon.

It's hard to commit to something, not because I'm afraid but because it's serious business to me. I only do it when I'm 101% sure.

Don't trust people easily.

The way I deal with difficulties that Saturn and the 8th House brings is that I've learned to accept changes and transformations. I also have a lot of Libra in my chart, and that keeps everything under control and balanced.

The Saturn wants to be old-fashioned but the 8th house wants a revolution!

Not sure if this was the answer you were looking for...

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It's perfect.I get the 101% committed part and the fact that you don't easily trust people. I am that way too.

I have Saturn in Scorpio in 7th & I was listening to a YouTube video about this position (Hannah's Somewhere. ..or something or the other)

With me, the energy is concentrated on emotional discipline or honing energy to a specific place or outlet. There is much concentration and focus here which can lead to a diligent (Saturn) and obsessive streak (Scorpio)

There isn't much objectivity with my Saturn in Scorpio as emotions are active and even when "controlled" , they have a way of coming out in manner that is influenced by impulsive feelings etc.

When Saturn is in Libra however, it's in its exalted position because Libra wants to take it's time and make the best decision. So it works here.

But when placed in the 8th house,it can create some delayed responses to subjects of a pressing matter (as Mars rules the 8th).

So these people would(much like Cap) take time to respond or react to impulses. Since the nature of the 8th house is more about being instinctive and getting in touch with the emotional nature,this person may be too rational and/or too lenient on other's inputs (Libra) to be able to respond timeously or take own initiative.

So these people are slow to welcome change or are slow to respond to insights -which delays the ability to act etc. As Mars is inspiration and insights coming to the head that require immediate action.

Libra Saturn on the other hand being the scales,these "insights" often received are weighed & debated upon for a long time before action is had.

posted September 28, 2019 05:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It's perfect.I get the 101% committed part and the fact that you don't easily trust people. I am that way too.

I have Saturn in Scorpio in 7th & I was listening to a YouTube video about this position (Hannah's Somewhere. ..or something or the other)

With me, the energy is concentrated on emotional discipline or honing energy to a specific place or outlet. There is much concentration and focus here which can lead to a diligent (Saturn) and obsessive streak (Scorpio)

There isn't much objectivity with my Saturn in Scorpio as emotions are active and even when "controlled" , they have a way of coming out in manner that is influenced by impulsive feelings etc.

When Saturn is in Libra however, it's in its exalted position because Libra wants to take it's time and make the best decision. So it works here.

But when placed in the 8th house,it can create some delayed responses to subjects of a pressing matter (as Mars rules the 8th).

So these people would(much like Cap) take time to respond or react to impulses. Since the nature of the 8th house is more about being instinctive and getting in touch with the emotional nature,this person may be too rational and/or too lenient on other's inputs (Libra) to be able to respond timeously or take own initiative.

So these people are slow to welcome change or are slow to respond to insights -which delays the ability to act etc. As Mars is inspiration and insights coming to the head that require immediate action.

Libra Saturn on the other hand being the scales,these "insights" often received are weighed & debated upon for a long time before action is had.

I have Mars(ruler of 8th) in libra too so this above sounds very familiar.

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It's true when you say Saturn wants to take time to make the best decision. Having Libra there and in the 7-8 House makes the decisions take way longer!

posted September 28, 2019 06:24 AM            

It's weird. I don't talk much in person usually, but sometimes I find it hard not to write a lot. Seems to relate to the less than a degree separation trine between Virgo Jupiter and Cap Mercury, with both strong/highlighted.