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kani
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posted October 03, 2019 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which aspects would indicate someone like that?

I can be like that, I admit
I always correct people's spelling mistakes when I read them - mostly in my head - or indirectly by writing them correctly in my response to them. I especially hate when people write stuff like "would of" instead of "would have" for example. Aaargh! (and English isn't even my first language! ).

I think it's because language feels so sacred to me. It's a powerful tool and you can express something so differently only by adding or exchanging a word with a slightly different meaning. Us (script) writers create whole new worlds and characters and lives with the language we use so it should be treated with care. I know that correct grammar is not necessarily needed for this, as long as the reader understands what is meant, but it still feels like a violation.


Any ideas which aspects might cause this almost fatalistic attitude?

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posted October 03, 2019 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6th house/Virgo emphasis.I would also add Saturn aspects and North node in 6th/Virgo.

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posted October 03, 2019 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
6th house/Virgo emphasis.I would also add Saturn aspects and North node in 6th/Virgo.


i have Neptune in the 6th but that's it.

NN in the second house.

I was thinking it might have something to do with mercury and aspects to it and/or the 3rd house?

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posted October 03, 2019 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since Planets are potentially and often stronger than Signs (when amplified/highlighted, like Angular, in major aspect to Ascendant/chart ruler, etc), I would say Mercury first.

I happen to have a strong Mercury, Capricorn (Sun and Mercury in same), and Virgo combo (including the ruler of the Sun Sign--Saturn, in Virgo), and I definitely notice grammar and spelling mistakes, but I rarely correct them in others. I'm also rather attuned to Jupiter and thus am more laid back in relation to others than what those former symbols/patterns would typically indicate.

However, as regards self, I tend to be rather precise and exact with language, because I want to communicate as clearly, accurately, and holistically as possible (Jupiter is also trine Mercury with less than a degree of separation, and is the closest Planet to the Ascendant). Pluto in the 3rd, almost exactly trine Venus, ruler of same, probably relates some as well to the carefulness in communication.

Self is rather unusually developed in seeing both the larger, more whole forest (i.e. the "big picture"), and the detailed, individual trees simultaneously (and this integrated/balanced whole brain activity/synchronization has been helped by ample use of "HemiSync" audio technology as well as long time practice of meditation).

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posted October 03, 2019 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Since Planets are potentially and often stronger than Signs, I would say Mercury first.

I happen to have a strong Mercury, Capricorn (Sun and Mercury in same), and Virgo combo (including the ruler of the Sun--Saturn, in Virgo), and I definitely notice grammar and spelling mistakes, but I rarely correct them in others. I'm also rather attuned to Jupiter and thus am more laid back in relation to others than what those former symbols/patterns would typically indicate.

However, as regards self, I tend to be rather precise and exact with language, because I want to communicate as clearly, accurately, and holistically as possible (Jupiter is also trine Mercury with less than a degree of separation, and is the closest Planet to the Ascendant). Pluto in the 3rd, almost exactly trine Venus, ruler of same, probably relates some as well to the carefulness in communication.

Self is rather unusually developed in seeing both the larger, more whole forest (i.e. the "big picture"), and the detailed, individual trees simultaneously (and this integrated/balanced whole brain activity/synchronization has been helped by ample use of "HemiSync" audio technology as well as long time practice of meditation).


My mercury is in Aquarius and makes a trine to Pluto, sextile to Neptune and a square to Uranus.
Mercury is in the 8th house and rules the 3rd and the 4th house. My 3rd house cusp exactly squares Uranus (dunno if that explains my grammar/language fixation).

Saturn makes no aspects except to Jupiter. The same with Jupiter

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posted October 03, 2019 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ime/o, both Pluto and Uranus are the planets most associated with OCD like traits and tendencies (to a lesser extent also their corresponding Signs).

As these are strongly connected to either your Mercury and 3rd House, it would seem to make sense.

I would have expected Mercury itself to be stronger/more highlighted, but then again, hard to judge without a full chart.

For example, Mercury is strong in my chart, because it's widely conjunct the Ascendant/chart ruler, it's in the 5th House, and there is a good dose of Virgo. Mercury is strongly aspected to most of those Virgo placements as well by trine. One of those Planets is the faster moving, traditional ruler of the IC/Nadir (which is also a personal planet).

Even then, Mercury is only like the 5th strongest Planet in my chart.

I definitely have some yellow in my aura, though purples and blues are far more dominant.

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posted October 03, 2019 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
i have Neptune in the 6th but that's it.

NN in the second house.

I was thinking it might have something to do with mercury and aspects to it and/or the 3rd house?


Yes of-course Mercury.I forgot about the ruler of Virgo (ironically)

I think the 3rd house could perhaps be more appreciative of words used & language itself.Virgo is the editor.

Virgo is into the grammar,minutia and proper construction of sentences ime.Gemini may notice mistakes but is not interested in looking at them in detail beyond laughing at them etc.

Virgo finds errors, misinformation & incorrect word usage downright painful for the ears.Really cringe worthy for them.

Virgo house 3
Cap house 3
Saturn house 3

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posted October 03, 2019 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hierophantom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
Which aspects would indicate someone like that?

I can be like that, I admit
I always correct people's spelling mistakes when I read them - mostly in my head - or indirectly by writing them correctly in my response to them. I especially hate when people write stuff like "would of" instead of "would have" for example. Aaargh! (and English isn't even my first language! ).

I think it's because language feels so sacred to me. It's a powerful tool and you can express something so differently only by adding or exchanging a word with a slightly different meaning. Us (script) writers create whole new worlds and characters and lives with the language we use so it should be treated with care. I know that correct grammar is not necessarily needed for this, as long as the reader understands what is meant, but it still feels like a violation.


Any ideas which aspects might cause this almost fatalistic attitude?


Here another chief of the grammar police.

I have nothing virgo in my horoscope.
I have mars next to the cusp of 3H. I have 3 planets in 6H including Mercury conjunct Neptune, and also ruler of 3 in 6H.

Saturn squares my ruler of 3. So I am very authoritative and restrictive on grammar, and act as a teacher, with is just something Saturn does. As for language, I just follow the rules very strictly and can be very dogmatic about it. When someone notices my flaws, I can be mad at myself. (English is not my native language so excuse me if you find flaws)

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posted October 03, 2019 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HUMOR!! Hey!

Ain't their be a prior convo made on this-here very topic you started, done by someone the year before, or last, or ~whatever???

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kani
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posted October 03, 2019 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Hey!

Ain't there be a prior convo made on this-here very topic you started the year before, or last, or whatever???



No that is the first time I started a thread like this. I wasn't even registered here a year ago

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posted October 03, 2019 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hierophantom:
Here another chief of the grammar police.


Hello fellow grammar inspector

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posted October 03, 2019 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Virgo finds errors, misinformation & incorrect word usage downright painful for the ears.Really cringe worthy for them.

Virgo house 3
Cap house 3
Saturn house 3


Absolutely, cringeworthy and aggravating. Apart from written grammar and spelling mistakes I also can't stand when people mispronounce words. It really hurts my ears and my instant reaction is telling them how it's properly pronounced (usually)

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posted October 03, 2019 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg VIRGOOO AND MERCURY XD

Thankfully I'm not THAT bad (many virgo placements and 1 6th house placement).

BUT I do find that if a post or article or text of any kind is not WELL WRITTEN with absolutely CLEAR INTENT or meaning, I feel uncertain if what I'm reading is true.

It's like there NEEDS to be real conviction and intent understood by the person speaking or writing for the message to get through. I think it's a "the messenger" thing relating to Mercury. Make sure your signal is clear!

But I think grammar nazi is a more negative expression of this. I mean, so long as the meaning and intent are clear, all's well imo and if you wanna play around fine. And there's a line that can be crossed where it just becomes prejudice and elitist to be a grammar nazi. I mean when I see people pound on a foreigner who doesn't speak english well, that's really an a$$hole move and makes them seem ignorant af.

I don't correct EVERYTHING, but when I see people misuse for example 'antisocial' in place of meaning 'asocial', it drives me a lil' bonkers. A psychopath is antisocial for ex xD

Now, if you want to write a college grade thesis, well, then I'll help and put on my "I kno how 2 rite gud" pants when needed xD but otherwise idc if u dun wanna spek nurmal awlwez. I am heppeh and u iz da becuz (I am happy and you are the reason xD). See? intent and meaning understood language is shoddy tho lol and if you don't wanna sound pristine, whatever. Time and place for everything, right?

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posted October 03, 2019 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hierophantom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
Hello fellow grammar inspector

Hello keeper on the Law of Language

My 3H is Leo so the ruler is Sun. I do happen to be very proud on my know-it-all-ness on grammar.


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posted October 03, 2019 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
omg VIRGOOO AND MERCURY XD

Thankfully I'm not THAT bad (many virgo placements and 1 6th house placement).

BUT I do find that if a post or article or text of any kind is not WELL WRITTEN with absolutely CLEAR INTENT or meaning, I feel uncertain if what I'm reading is true.

It's like there NEEDS to be real conviction and intent understood by the person speaking or writing for the message to get through. I think it's a "the messenger" thing relating to Mercury. Make sure your signal is clear!

But I think grammar nazi is a more negative expression of this. I mean, so long as the meaning and intent are clear, all's well imo and if you wanna play around fine. And there's a line that can be crossed where it just becomes prejudice and elitist to be a grammar nazi. I mean when I see people pound on a foreigner who doesn't speak english well, that's really an a$$hole move and makes them seem ignorant af.

I don't correct EVERYTHING, but when I see people misuse for example 'antisocial' in place of meaning 'asocial', it drives me a lil' bonkers. A psychopath is antisocial for ex xD

Now, if you want to write a college grade thesis, well, then I'll help and put on my "I kno how 2 rite gud" pants when needed xD but otherwise idc if u dun wanna spek nurmal awlwez. I am heppeh and u iz da becuz (I am happy and you are the reason xD). See? intent and meaning understood language is shoddy tho lol and if you don't wanna sound pristine, whatever. Time and place for everything, right?


Oh I don't like it either when people jump on foreigners and correct their spelling. Especially if they do it out of spite and because they want to belittle them. From me it's usually a "Hats off" to people who try to express themselves in a foreign language. I appreciate the effort for sure. But I dislike the increasing neglect of grammar and spelling on social media platforms. It just looks like they are butchering the language. I've got nothing against abbreviations though or alternative spellings (gud instead of good) out of sheer laziness. But not too much :P

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posted October 03, 2019 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kani:
[b] Hello fellow grammar inspector


Hello keeper on the Law of Language

My 3H is Leo so the ruler is Sun. I do happen to be very proud on my know-it-all-ness on grammar.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Me, too and I intend to keep it that way. One thing why spelling errors irritate me is because I figured that they tend to be contagious! There was a time when I started questioning my own spelling because I saw so many different versions of spelling of that particular word (due to my use social media for example) that I forgot which spelling was the correct one. So I had to look them up. I didn't like that at all :P

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posted October 03, 2019 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to tutor a Venus in Virgo with a Gemini Rising few years back, and she used to keep correcting my pronounciation.....later on whenever I made a mistake, I used to look at her face, Hahh nice good time it was ....pheww~...time indeed does fly around~ to nobody knows where and how, Hehh..

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posted October 03, 2019 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hierophantom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There was a time when I started questioning my own spelling because I saw so many different versions of spelling of that particular word (due to my use social media for example) that I forgot which spelling was the correct one. So I had to look them up. I didn't like that at all :P [/B]

Yeah me too. I feel like dementia is starting quickly.

The only reason I point out on their grammar is because I want to TEACH (saturn) them something. I look it from a broader perspective (merc. in sag) If someone has to write a job application, people won't take them seriously. It is unprofessional and employers will think they are dumb.
Also many professional websites contain so many errors I doubt their professionality. And integrity. And quality of service. And I find it very childish, as if you are dealing with kindergartenkids who lack any responsibility to act as adults. This is the feeling I get. The generations before us knew how to advertise professionaly. Really, consider it.

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posted October 03, 2019 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is so me. I thought it was just a Virgo thing? I can spot a misspelling, a mile away. Drives me nuts when it’s on a menu!

Anyway, I find it annoying when people write it off as being too picky or OCD. Is nothing sacred? If everyone just starts using incorrect grammar and spelling things incorrectly, or how ‘words sound’, or “whatever...jeez you knew what I meant, why is it a big deal” - then what will happen to written language?

I was always being asked by my mother (for advice) how to spell words, since I was a small child. I’ve also acted as proofreader/editor for pretty much any place I’ve ever worked.

9H Virgo Sun
9H Virgo Mercury conj Mars

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posted October 03, 2019 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hierophantom:
Yeah me too. I feel like dementia is starting quickly.

The only reason I point out on their grammar is because I want to TEACH (saturn) them something. I look it from a broader perspective (merc. in sag) If someone has to write a job application, people won't take them seriously. It is unprofessional and employers will think they are dumb.
Also many professional websites contain so many errors I doubt their professionality. And integrity. And quality of service. And I find it very childish, as if you are dealing with kindergartenkids who lack any responsibility to act as adults. This is the feeling I get. The generations before us knew how to advertise professionaly. Really, consider it.



A big fat ME, TOO! for all of this!!! YES, I'm so tempted to correct whole paragraphs of people's websites because their spelling mistakes just make them look totally unprofessional and sloppy. There is no need for that, especially when I know they are good professionals! But I would hesitate to hire someone whose website is full of grammar and spelling errors. I really have nothing to add to what you said.

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posted October 03, 2019 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireVirgo:
This is so me. I thought it was just a Virgo thing? I can spot a misspelling, a mile away. Drives me nuts when it’s on a menu!

Anyway, I find it annoying when people write it off as being too picky or OCD. Is nothing sacred? If everyone just starts using incorrect grammar and spelling things incorrectly, or how ‘words sound’, or “whatever...jeez you knew what I meant, why is it a big deal” - then what will happen to written language?

I was always being asked by my mother (for advice) how to spell words, since I was a small child. I’ve also acted as proofreader/editor for pretty much any place I’ve ever worked.

9H Virgo Sun
9H Virgo Mercury conj Mars


Thank you!! Exactly, is nothing sacred anymore? And yes, correct spelling definitely matters!

I have nothing in Virgo (though I love my Virgo people ) but I have sun i the 9th like you. Also Venus in the 9th.

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posted October 03, 2019 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mother was one. There are times when I hear her in my head, when I know I've said something that she would correct.

She was a Sagittarius Sun. Sadge Mercury, too. She attended grammar school in England.

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posted October 03, 2019 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo ASC.

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posted October 03, 2019 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am the queen of grammar Nazis lol. Gemini ascendant, Merc in 12H opposite moon/Pluto in 6H with Saturn and Mars sitting nearby in the 6H. I can not stand poor grammar! It's a giant pet peeve of mine and I will correct you. I used to help out a friend proofreading manuscripts just for fun 😂

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Astrologically, I have Saturn in Aquarius 3rd house sextile Mercury in Aries in 5th house. I'm also a Gemini Moon with Sun in 6th house and my Midheaven is in Virgo.

I'm a grammar nazi. I don't expect perfection, but when I see people whose first language is English with no excuse for talking the way they do, I hate the way they shorten words to a singular letter. I don't nitpick as much anymore, except if I made a typo or grammar error myself, but it still drive me nuts.

"Ur" is not a word. "U" is a letter, not a word. Now, again, I don't expect perfection. My English is far from perfect and I acknowledge the room for improvement here.

I'm a writer. I'm not at the level of a professional yet, but I expect more from people who grew up with English as their first language. Yes, English is a tough language with ridiculous rules. No, that doesn't mean knowing the difference between their, there, and they're have to be one of them. I've seen a significant amount of people with English as their second language put more time and effort into speaking correctly than people that grew up with English as their primary language.

I can't help but notice errors with spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It's part of being a writer to have this kind of experience. Editors can't do all the work.

Since I know I have errors on occasion, I don't want to correct people anymore, plus too many people are going around with errors in their posts for me to spend that much energy on it.

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