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Topic: Autism and Aspergers in Natal Chart?
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Soulsjourney Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Jan 2017
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posted October 08, 2019 02:36 AM
Which aspect or position of the planet shows the individual might have Aspergers?IP: Logged |
Hierophantom Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Netherlands Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 08, 2019 04:19 AM
Uranus in Aquarius is one of the main indicators. My second cousin is autistic, and indeed, Uranus in Aquarius. Other aspects in the chart can reinforce this or not. ------------------ Mercury conjunct Neptune: Can I take a message? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73342 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 08, 2019 06:52 AM
A hard 3rd house, Mercury with problems. Also, vaccinations are a huge part of this.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Soulsjourney Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Jan 2017
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posted October 09, 2019 05:08 AM
Do you think there is a Jupiter and Mercury connection?IP: Logged |
Hierophantom Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Netherlands Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 05:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Soulsjourney: Do you think there is a Jupiter and Mercury connection?
That would only indicate a high intelligence.
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 4702 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted October 09, 2019 08:44 AM
Maybe Mercury in hard aspects to Uranus. Mercury conjunction Uranus is a genius aspect. But the person can be so smart that they suffer from mental illness. My friend has this aspect and he's highly intelligent. But he has multiple personality disorder.IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 718 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted October 09, 2019 12:04 PM
I was diagnosed when I was younger there is a tendency for lot of air and fire contacts in the persons chart. quote: Originally posted by Soulsjourney: Do you think there is a Jupiter and Mercury connection?
I do have Jupiter trine Mercury. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ˇ÷ ♉, ˇö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |
cthonicstar Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 04:36 PM
I know someone with severe autism. This person has Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune in tight conjunction under Capricorn. The chart is full of hard aspects; mainly conjunctions and oppositions. IP: Logged |
SunAscendant Knowflake Posts: 2704 From: California Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 09, 2019 05:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by cthonicstar: I know someone with severe autism. This person has Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune in tight conjunction under Capricorn. The chart is full of hard aspects; mainly conjunctions and oppositions.
Is this person a Capricorn or Aquarius sun born in Jan-Feb 1990-1995ish? All cap and Aquarius suns born from 1990-1995ish will have Mercury, Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn. I know a few Capricorn suns born in this time period who seem like they could have mild autism, so I definitely agree with you. IP: Logged |
SunAscendant Knowflake Posts: 2704 From: California Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 09, 2019 05:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by cthonicstar: I know someone with severe autism. This person has Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune in tight conjunction under Capricorn. The chart is full of hard aspects; mainly conjunctions and oppositions.
Is this person a Capricorn or Aquarius sun born in Jan-Feb 1990-1995ish? All cap and Aquarius suns born from 1990-1995ish will have Mercury, Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn. I know a few Capricorn suns born in this time period who seem like they could have mild autism, so I definitely agree with you. They’re also Capricorn rising, so they’ve got these planets sitting right in their ascendant making the influence of this triple conjunction extremely prominent in their behavior. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 05:25 PM
Some questions to ask before trying to correlate with astrology. Are all cases of autism caused by the same exact set of factors? Are there multiple factors, or a particular "smoking gun"? Are all people with autism the same or similar? Is it a spectrum of degrees or not? I suspect this topic is probably more complicated, and relative than many give it credit for. That means that likely the astrology of it will be all over the place as well, and it may be hard to narrow it down to a specific set of patterns. The most I've noticed as a weak trend/pattern is a an emphasis on very strong fixed energy, both Signs especially and related rulers (including Uranus and Pluto). But again, a weak trend. IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 1014 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted October 09, 2019 08:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: A hard 3rd house, Mercury with problems. Also, vaccinations are a huge part of this.
And yet the world tries to make you feel crazy for not vaccinating 😑 have you ever studied vaccines with astrology? The link to autism? Predictions on if/when the truth will ever come to light? I was hoping with pluto/Saturn in capricorn it might, but doesn't look like it. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 09:34 PM
I think they could definitely be a factor, but always the only cause, doubt so. It seems to be a "perfect storm" type scenario of different factors/variables. I don't know if it's true but I awhile back I heard that New Jersey has the highest rate of autism per population. New Jersey also is a rather polluted state, and I've wondered if that is also a factor. My partner and I started taking nascent iodine awhile back. I probably read about a thousand reviews on it (can be a little OCD at times), and there were a smattering of parents who reported that giving nascent iodine to their children with autism really helped. Nascent iodine ime and in the EC readings, helps to balance out and revivify the entire endocrine glandular system. I've worked with folks with autism off and on for a long time (I'm beginning to wonder if maybe too long), and so this is a more personally interesting subject. IP: Logged |
cthonicstar Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 11:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by SunAscendant: Is this person a Capricorn or Aquarius sun born in Jan-Feb 1990-1995ish? All cap and Aquarius suns born from 1990-1995ish will have Mercury, Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn. I know a few Capricorn suns born in this time period who seem like they could have mild autism, so I definitely agree with you.
Yup, it's a generational thing. I don't think those are the aspects for autism; at best it's indicative of light autism-like behavior. Which I have personally seen with people born in this timeframe--either socially awkward or outrightly on the spectrum. However, one thing I have seen is that there is a very high amount of incredibly smart and creative people! I believe autism is genetic also-there have been historical accounts of autism behaviors since the time humans developed language. It's not new for the human species; the only new thing is how aware of it we're suddenly becoming. Now this awareness can be attributed to Pluto/Scorpio influence as it was in the 1980s that autism finally became a label. After that, the awareness increased and more intervention programs were developed and set up in schools thus increasing public awareness over time. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of the timelines. IP: Logged |
Ayelet Moderator Posts: 3128 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 10, 2019 08:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hierophantom: Uranus in Aquarius is one of the main indicators. My second cousin is autistic, and indeed, Uranus in Aquarius. Other aspects in the chart can reinforce this or not.
But a whole generation has Uranus in Aquarius. Are they all autistic? How can that apply? IP: Logged |
madambec55 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Sydney Registered: Oct 2019
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posted October 10, 2019 09:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Maybe Mercury in hard aspects to Uranus. Mercury conjunction Uranus is a genius aspect. But the person can be so smart that they suffer from mental illness. My friend has this aspect and he's highly intelligent. But he has multiple personality disorder.
This is interesting because my brother has autism and my mother -Brother has Uranus Square Mercury -My mother has Uranus conjunct Mercury square Jupiter IP: Logged |
madambec55 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Sydney Registered: Oct 2019
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posted October 10, 2019 09:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ayelet: But a whole generation has Uranus in Aquarius. Are they all autistic? How can that apply?
Yes I agree - a generational planet in a sign isn't going to tell you much about an individual. The aspects to inner planets will though
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Hierophantom Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Netherlands Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 11, 2019 05:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by madambec55: Yes I agree - a generational planet in a sign isn't going to tell you much about an individual. The aspects to inner planets will though
Well, if you see autism not as a disorder but as highly advanced souls incarnating this earth to help shift the earths conscience level to 5d, it is not that weird it applies to a whole generation. My second cousin has autism, a moderate one, like dr. Sean of "The good doctor" series. His twin brother has not. I guess they are both vaccinated. I don't know their birth times but if there's a few hours apart, it can make a huge difference in house placements. I will go afther their times. I think twin studies are helpful in drawing astrological conclusions.
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2367 From: Into the wormhole on Saturn's ring Registered: Jul 2016
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posted October 11, 2019 06:21 AM
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2367 From: Into the wormhole on Saturn's ring Registered: Jul 2016
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posted October 11, 2019 06:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by DualGemV2: I was diagnosed when I was younger there is a tendency for lot of air and fire contacts in the persons chart. I do have Jupiter trine Mercury. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ˇ÷ ♉, ˇö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 1203 From: The Great White North Registered: Jul 2014
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posted October 11, 2019 09:46 AM
I think this is impossible to pin on astrology, as are most ailments/conditions/disorders in general. They are EXTREMELY situational and are based on so many genetic/environmental factors.Vaccines are not the cause. You can try and find correlation in just about anything if you try hard enough. How did the mother take care of herself during her pregnancy? Did she expose herself to any chemicals or pollutants? Did she eat healthily, exercise, get proper nutrition? Are they any genetic markers or predispositions? If you look at the spectrum of familial backgrounds of autistic children, there is a strong correlation of modest to lower income families birthing children with varying disorders. Not saying you are exempt if you are upper-middle class or wealthy, but it always seems the families hit hardest are the ones who struggle to afford the proper care for these individuals. Why is that? Lack of education, lack of access to nutritional resources, exposure to various toxins in their work environments? All of these things have to be considered as well. IP: Logged |
cthonicstar Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 11, 2019 06:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by margym0o: I think this is impossible to pin on astrology, as are most ailments/conditions/disorders in general. They are EXTREMELY situational and are based on so many genetic/environmental factors.Vaccines are not the cause. You can try and find correlation in just about anything if you try hard enough. How did the mother take care of herself during her pregnancy? Did she expose herself to any chemicals or pollutants? Did she eat healthily, exercise, get proper nutrition? Are they any genetic markers or predispositions? If you look at the spectrum of familial backgrounds of autistic children, there is a strong correlation of modest to lower income families birthing children with varying disorders. Not saying you are exempt if you are upper-middle class or wealthy, but it always seems the families hit hardest are the ones who struggle to afford the proper care for these individuals. Why is that? Lack of education, lack of access to nutritional resources, exposure to various toxins in their work environments? All of these things have to be considered as well.
Yes! This is what I was heading towards in my last response. Here is the tl;dr version of my post above: -ASD has been around for as long as humans have walked the earth, way way before vaccines were developed. It just wasn't officially recognized until recently. -There is no single astrology aspect for ASD individuals; only maybe the most extreme cases and 100% always involves personal planets rather than generational. My example was using the 1990-1995 generation; they are one of the smartest people with some social awkwardness, but definitely not on the spectrum. And, I wanted to say that I love the concept that ASD is not a disorder but a peek into the next evolution stage for humans! IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4018 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 11, 2019 06:22 PM
The increase of this has come since Uranus and Neptune's move through their parallel in far south declination (and through Sagittarius and their conjunction in Capricorn). What you're asking about is a wide spectrum that includes people with extreme developmental problems, impaired function and disability to those with accelerated intellectual development or unusual abilities, many of whom are highly functional. So there is no way to nail it all down astrologically. But it does involve Uranus and Neptune, either in the natal or in progression or transit influence, particularly with Mercury as it relates to mental dis/ability. Check out the [url=]chart of Andrea Negro[/url], the youngest French student to obtain a baccalaureate diploma, a mathematics prodigy with Aspberger's Syndrome. Uranus is quincunx Mercury; Neptune sesquisquare Mercury; Mars & Saturn square Mercury. This kind of academic acceleration from prodigy is quite different from the trauma, injury, and dysfunction seen in the more severe cases of autism in which a person may engage in self-harm or lashing out at others, even be unable to control their own bodily functions. Those relate more to the malefics, especially Saturn, possibly even to Pluto as it is not a matter of innate intelligence, but of severe physical alterations triggered by toxins and imbalances in gut flora (also Neptune related). There's no one signature for this. In recent years these conditions usually develop visibly after birth -- and yes, they have been triggered many times quickly after vaccination. Vaccines still contain both mercury (Mercurisol) and aluminum and in forms more toxic than was previously assumed. These micro-doses of trace elements relate to Saturn and Neptune. But don't try to figure it out astrologically -- or expect mainstream medicine to describe or attribute it honestly. To find the answers you have to go down a Plutonian rabbit hold of massive profiteering. Modern pharmaceuticals are not as much about science as they are about unmitigated commercialism (capitalism). ------------------ Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert birth chart rectification IP: Logged |