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Valmu83
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posted October 14, 2019 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this about tremendous opportunity for experiencing love or waste of feelings? I have Pluto sextile Venus at my natal chart. Solar arc Pluto is at 3th house at the moment and SA Venus Is at 1st. Natal Pluto at 2nd/Venus at 11th or 12th house cusp.

Any opinions or first hand experiences? I’m afraid this will be more waste of feelings and rejection for me. As it is approaching to be exact soon and in one month time it’s already 0.08min so something could happen. At the moment I have obsessive feelings towards one person but it’s not going forward. At least I have told him I like him..but nothing. I have noticed that love related arcs mostly will bring someone to my life but it is onesided attraction and I always end up alone and devastated. What could be done if anything? I have tried to listen meditation tapes for forgetting someone.

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posted October 14, 2019 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a waste of time as it is a symbolic fiction. They only solar arc that has any representation in reality is the arc of the Sun.

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Valmu83
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posted October 14, 2019 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So in your opinion secondary progressions are better when predicting future events? Are those interpreted similarly than solar arcs?

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Valmu83
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posted October 18, 2019 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m Sun Leo and I have noticed that some arcs really manifest in real life.. when I had SA Neptune to Saturn I had most horrible couple of days. But some of them are gone without noticing.

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posted October 20, 2019 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar Arc Pluto on Venus would suggest the inability to be objective. One is all up in their feelings(Venus) as there is great momentum(Pluto) there for good or ill.

There could be someone or something that you become progressively obsessed with and can't easily detach from. It could be an idea, a friendship, a partner, a group, a cause, a diet,a health issue, a series on Tv, a celebrity etc.

One must look at where Venus is placed by sign and house to assess the nature of this obsession. So if Venus is in Virgo, the obsession could be more mental. And if the Venus concerned is in the 8th, one wants to get to the bottom of things and what their 'share' is relative to others they are sharing with etc.

So say for instance the native shares living space with someone, they would insist on more clarity between what is "theirs" vs. What belongs to the live in partner.

This obsession may border on critiquing the partner should they cross boundaries, nagging them to keep to their lane or finding fault with how the partner uses their belongings etc.

Feelings are heightened -which makes cerebral conversation with this Venus in Virgo unlikely & atypical. Arguments tend to spark off due to differences of opinion and battle lines could be drawn (as a result )which are hard to reconcile during and even perhaps even after this solar arc period.The native is TOUCHY.

I don't think its a great time for love or casual dating. There is preoccupation with finding "the One" and the individual is not aware that they are too clingy,needy , easily offended and feel very vulnerable to rejection.

So they may demand too much too soon from the partner(proposal after 3 weeks of dating etc) and take on rebuffs very personally as there is little objective perspective i.e "What? So you don't want to marry me? We are over!"

Other keywords I would use for this period;

Giving your friends/lovers/boss etc. ultimatums. Everyone knows exactly where you stand(you don't blow hot/cold). Disagreements will tend to linger longer. Filing for a divorce.Avoidance of superficial social contacts or even actively seeking isolation.Spontaneous anger that festers over "minor" things others do to you. Being "over the hill" in age ane becoming convinced that you either find someone NOW or its over for you,Some friends/associations may fall away.A piqued interest in earnings and whether you are paid your worth. If it gets broken, don't fix it.Throw the whole damne thing away. Extreme dating i.e "Married in 90 days", Extreme reactions towards people i.e strong feelings of hate or obsession(rarely ever love in its pure form) etc. A time where you put another person/idea or thing as the sole reason for your existence,falling in/out of favour with religion,authority or parents, seeing people with feet of clay and being unable to accept that or forgive human error,rejection from others due to your love life, rejection of your own love life or inability to reconcile your sexual feelings in an easy, soothing way. Why do I have feelings for [undesirable person]? Or Can I get over [undesirable person] ?etc.

What you can be sure of is that people may trigger your intense emotions.Remember that its not them, its YOU. They are not out to "hurt" you but you are mostly responding in an exteme defensive way that creates enmity with them.

I am going through trans Plu square Asc/Dsc right now with Mars close by. And it is very similar as there are extremes of actions right now.Infact, I am at point of making arrangements to move overseas for career purposes.

It started off as a thought years ago.Then it slowly and progressively became a recurring idea.Now in tandem with this transit, its an obsession. Something that I want to do which(years ago) I wouldn't have dreamed to do at all.

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Valmu83
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posted October 20, 2019 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you don’t think your action to move overseas is too forceful and you will regret it later? If the arc is similar to this one?

I know a lot about feeling obsessed ..so I think I can handle it as a feeling. And perhaps finally telling people what is acceptable behaviour towards me wouldn’t be so bad idea, it would be healthy. I think these astrological influences only bring in the surface issues that are burried deep inside. If someone feels they are always been betrayed or mishandled by opposite sex it’s good if they eventually gather confidence to stop that. So I think there is possibility to make it healing for me - me appreciating my time, efforts and borders. And if it requires me to tell someone what I think and they end up being upset..so be it. There is reason for that to come to surface.

I have read SA Pluto to Venus carries enormous potential for love relationship and also wasting emotions. At the moment it seems I’m wasting my emotions. But on the other hand this is first time that I have been able to tell someone I appreciate them, I think they are wonderful etc. nice things. So it’s not all bad even though they won’t apparently appreciate it as much I would wish. I hope it will be mostly good experience.

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posted October 20, 2019 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
So you don’t think your action to move overseas is too forceful and you will regret it later? If the arc is similar to this one?

I know a lot about feeling obsessed ..so I think I can handle it as a feeling. And perhaps finally telling people what is acceptable behaviour towards me wouldn’t be so bad idea, it would be healthy.

I think these astrological influences only bring in the surface issues that are burried deep inside. If someone feels they are always been betrayed or mishandled by opposite sex it’s good if they eventually gather confidence to stop that.

So I think there is possibility to make it healing for me - me appreciating my time, efforts and borders. And if it requires me to tell someone what I think and they end up being upset..so be it. There is reason for that to come to surface.

I have read SA Pluto to Venus carries enormous potential for love relationship and also wasting emotions. At the moment it seems I’m wasting my emotions. But on the other hand this is first time that I have been able to tell someone I appreciate them, I think they are wonderful etc. nice things. So it’s not all bad even though they won’t apparently appreciate it as much I would wish. I hope it will be mostly good experience.


I agree with you on that front.That transits/solar arc progressions summon up what is buried within.

It is also good that one draws boundaries.That is healthy too.I think my focus was more on being increasingly sensitive to people or relationships that ARE working.And thus being hyper-sensitive to those and experiencing extreme feelings of anger/ disappointment when there are minor hiccups.

Pluto tends to kill a fly with a shotgun and doesn't take the context into consideration.And this is what I am warning against i.e it may seem rational to throw the baby out WITH the water.And not care.

The Solar Arc to Venus is similar to my trans Pluto on the Dsc(7th house affiliated with Venus).And I feel cautioned against this because it feels like there is great momentum and expectation for things to work out positively.

I am haunted by dreams of racism or some type of "different" treatment because of my "foreigner" status in an unknown country. And I guess its this paranoia that is reflective of Pluto on Dsc i.e an extreme(Pluto) reaction to other's treatment of me (Dsc).

But on the other hand, there is great curiosity and force towards wanting to change my life in an absolute manner.And I feel Pluto on Dsc is an opportunity to change perspective irrevocably.

Unless you are evolved on the love front i.e coming into love with the intention of giving without expectation to receive in kind etc. This aint the time for it imo.Pluto on Ven comes with psychologycal wounds that could lead to explosive emotions when stirred(unexpectedly).

As a Ven/Plu in Sco in 7th house myself I can say that imoo, Venus on Pluto is too much momentum too soon if acting alone. Heartache happens because of the "all eggs in one box" syndrome.Pluto is all or nothing.

For love, I think Jupiter/Venus and even Uranus/Venus is preferred for. Less volatility there. And what saves me is Saturn-Venus conj(although very frustrating in its own right)

I like the Venus-Saturn conj love connection.Its not electric, sexy or hot and happening etc. But I founf it sincere and enduring.

My first ex has Saturn/Venus opp and we got together when trans Saturn in Leo was in my 5th square my natal Sat in 7th Sco. Its the relationship to beat

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posted January 02, 2020 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So updating this thread too.

Last Feb I had SA Pluto to Sun/Venus. At that time I met a man that I gradually fell in love. But he was taken. Although it was obvious that he had feelings towards me too and after summer we spent more time together outside our workplace too.

SA Pluto did square my Venus exactly at the 18th of Dec. Two weeks before that we had a fight. It was because I felt he didn’t appreciate my time etc. During that day we sent messages back and forth and eventually spoke at phone too. I told him that I had feelings towards him and he told he “hasn’t felt anything for year’s “. That’s nicer way to say he doesn’t feel anything (serious) toward me, I guess. But it was actually good conversation and we met at 18th when this arc was exact and went to lunch. At first we both were stiff but eventually we had good time. I could tell he liked me more than before because I had told him about my feelings. And it was good experience for me as I wasn’t rejected or shamed by him when I told him about deepest feelings. Now this arc is separating 0.04 so I hope my feeling will fade away too. But it was truly wasting my emotions.

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posted August 28, 2022 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancermoon83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
So updating this thread too.

Last Feb I had SA Pluto to Sun/Venus. At that time I met a man that I gradually fell in love. But he was taken. Although it was obvious that he had feelings towards me too and after summer we spent more time together outside our workplace too.

SA Pluto did square my Venus exactly at the 18th of Dec. Two weeks before that we had a fight. It was because I felt he didn’t appreciate my time etc. During that day we sent messages back and forth and eventually spoke at phone too. I told him that I had feelings towards him and he told he “hasn’t felt anything for year’s “. That’s nicer way to say he doesn’t feel anything (serious) toward me, I guess. But it was actually good conversation and we met at 18th when this arc was exact and went to lunch. At first we both were stiff but eventually we had good time. I could tell he liked me more than before because I had told him about my feelings. And it was good experience for me as I wasn’t rejected or shamed by him when I told him about deepest feelings. Now this arc is separating 0.04 so I hope my feeling will fade away too. But it was truly wasting my emotions.


I may as well share my experience with that one. When SA Pluto squared my Venus I started a very intense relationship with someone and I was obsessed. He didn't feel the same and I ended up feeling used. There was a 3rd party involved as well.
I regret nothing though since I learned a lot and it changed me a lot.

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posted September 12, 2022 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Valmu83
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posted September 16, 2022 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear that. My situation is not completely over. During 3 years we have had 4 conversations about the subject. Last time I said enough is enough. As he would want me to wait two more years that his kids are big enough for him to move on. At the same time he is building a new home with his current partner..And keep in mind our relationship has never been physical. I hate him so much.

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