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Topic: Do Capricorn’s like needy people?
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MMarie
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posted October 20, 2019 11:21 AM
  
Do Capricorn’s like needy people or is that more Virgo or water signs? Ive noticed that some Capricorn’s like to feel needed but at the same time seem annoyed by it. What sign is attracted to someone who is an emotional mess or someone who does not know how to deal with their emotions? IP: Logged |
Moonbeth
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posted October 20, 2019 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
Do Capricorn’s like needy people or is that more Virgo or water signs? Ive noticed that some Capricorn’s like to feel needed but at the same time seem annoyed by it. What sign is attracted to someone who is an emotional mess or someone who does not know how to deal with their emotions?
I love your question so much  It's always "that sign doesn't like needy" "that Venus won't stand needy", but most of us are needy, at least at times 
I think Capricorn could, I mean with Cancer as an opposite, it has to have a tolerance for times of clinginess, as long as they are paired with times of independence, the crab tides, coming and going...
Leo could be a good bet too, something about the generosity and grandeur and being fine with being an idol too
Taurus can take emotional neediness but to a point...
I'm not sure, but I do hope even the most typical Aquarius can take a dose of neediness, it's just a human trait IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 20, 2019 12:18 PM
The short answer is yes. But it's not so much that they like needy people; it's more that they like being needed.IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted October 20, 2019 01:05 PM
No. I think they like to feel "needed".And this is not necessarily the same thing. As they tend to avoid "wash-outs" but will go after those who are on their way to success or are already successful as Cap finds success(in whatever form they define) "sexy".Cap Moon will for instance in their expression of care, be the type to "father" you in some way(even the women tend to be more paternalistic than maternal). So they will want to get your life in order(not that it was a complete "mess" before), to "improve" you in some way (not that you were outdated)and for you to get the impression that your life is "better" (even though it wasn't all that bad)because they are in it i.e they want to be indispensable. The song "Let me upgrade you" by Beyonce Knowles talks of this essence of what Cap wants to do imo.They want to be the girlfriend/boyfriend who sets the bar for others NEVER to reach. Brad Pitt has Cap Moon and married Jen Aniston. She wasn't exactly a "mess" before him.But he definitely added to her "star" status. Angelina Jolie was seen as sexy but very disturbed/ disturbing before she got with Brad. And then afterwards, she was "sexiest woman this...sexiest woman that" etc. He also uplifted her status(not to say she was "nothing" before that.But she was seen in a "better" light afterwards. This despite initially being hated for being the "mistress" who tore the "Golden"Couple apart(Jen and Brad) Cap energy is often drawn to Lib/Leo/Gem/Aqua and Cancer ime. You must be self sufficient or "add" to their reputation in some way beneficial. Pisces likes "projects" ime or people whom are(as you put it) an "emotional mess". But this is often not always conscious to them in that they project themselves on to these people and earnestly believe that through helping them, they will be helping themselves(feminine energy often behaves this way). Cancer can also be drawn to someone who doesn't know how to express their emotions or struggles with feelings etc. They can have their "feelers" out constantly and always feel like they have to "mother" someone or show them kindness in order to sponsor change within that person. The problem can be attachment-even to people who have no desire to change. Because the guilt of leaving them in a lurch is (atleast in their minds) tantamount to outright abandonment. IP: Logged |
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posted October 20, 2019 02:41 PM
My sister doesn't seem to like it much, but her husband depends on her for a lot. He's older, and when she was visiting his home up North, staying with him for months at a time, she would come home exhausted - not wanting to do anything around the house, because he left it to her to do. When we were getting along, and she'd gone back home after we lost our mother, we'd texted a bit when I was at a bookstore, and she was back in Canada - I was trying not to cry, and missing her, as well as our mum. When I got home, she called me on Skype, and talked for a while. She does manage to put on a happy face for people, when she wants to/can handle it herself. She is better under pressure, than I am, depending on the situation. You just have to make sure that you can tell when they feel like they're crumbling, too. It isn't often, but can happen. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 20, 2019 05:49 PM
I can only speak for myself (triple Cappy), but I like needy people, because I get to help them. Being needy is different from being a bloodsucking tick, though.IP: Logged |
Moonbeth
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posted October 20, 2019 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I can only speak for myself (triple Cappy), but I like needy people, because I get to help them. Being needy is different from being a bloodsucking tick, though.
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MMarie
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posted October 20, 2019 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I can only speak for myself (triple Cappy), but I like needy people, because I get to help them. Being needy is different from being a bloodsucking tick, though.
Thanks for the input Randall! Do you like physically needy people as in people who need help with doing things i.e help with their car/ moving furniture/ help with certain situations (getting a new job) or emotionally needy people? Or both? Haha IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted October 20, 2019 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
My sister doesn't seem to like it much, but her husband depends on her for a lot. He's older, and when she was visiting his home up North, staying with him for months at a time, she would come home exhausted - not wanting to do anything around the house, because he left it to her to do. When we were getting along, and she'd gone back home after we lost our mother, we'd texted a bit when I was at a bookstore, and she was back in Canada - I was trying not to cry, and missing her, as well as our mum. When I got home, she called me on Skype, and talked for a while. She does manage to put on a happy face for people, when she wants to/can handle it herself. She is better under pressure, than I am, depending on the situation. You just have to make sure that you can tell when they feel like they're crumbling, too. It isn't often, but can happen.
My sister is like this too with a cap heavy chart. She likes taking care of things and people. I guess Capricorn can manifest in ways similar to cancer and I would think especially in a woman’s chart. She’s still has badass Capricorn qualities though 😎. IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted October 20, 2019 08:13 PM
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No. I think they like to feel "needed".And this is not necessarily the same thing. As they tend to avoid "wash-outs" but will go after those who are on their way to success or are already successful as Cap finds success(in whatever form they define) "sexy".Cap Moon will for instance in their expression of care, be the type to "father" you in some way(even the women tend to be more paternalistic than maternal). So they will want to get your life in order(not that it was a complete "mess" before), to "improve" you in some way (not that you were outdated)and for you to get the impression that your life is "better" (even though it wasn't all that bad)because they are in it i.e they want to be indispensable. The song "Let me upgrade you" by Beyonce Knowles talks of this essence of what Cap wants to do imo.They want to be the girlfriend/boyfriend who sets the bar for others NEVER to reach. Brad Pitt has Cap Moon and married Jen Aniston. She wasn't exactly a "mess" before him.But he definitely added to her "star" status. Angelina Jolie was seen as sexy but very disturbed/ disturbing before she got with Brad. And then afterwards, she was "sexiest woman this...sexiest woman that" etc. He also uplifted her status(not to say she was "nothing" before that.But she was seen in a "better" light afterwards. This despite initially being hated for being the "mistress" who tore the "Golden"Couple apart(Jen and Brad) Cap energy is often drawn to Lib/Leo/Gem/Aqua and Cancer ime. You must be self sufficient or "add" to their reputation in some way beneficial. Pisces likes "projects" ime or people whom are(as you put it) an "emotional mess". But this is often not always conscious to them in that they project themselves on to these people and earnestly believe that through helping them, they will be helping themselves(feminine energy often behaves this way). Cancer can also be drawn to someone who doesn't know how to express their emotions or struggles with feelings etc. They can have their "feelers" out constantly and always feel like they have to "mother" someone or show them kindness in order to sponsor change within that person. The problem can be attachment-even to people who have no desire to change. Because the guilt of leaving them in a lurch is (atleast in their minds) tantamount to outright abandonment.
Wow I didn’t even think about the whole Brad/ Angelina thing in that way but makes a lot of sense because she did in a way clean up her appearance/act. I think she started to before she met brad but he probably helped further that along. I think you described Pisces and cancer well. I’m starting to get more familiar with Pisces energy and I can see how they want to help people who are a mess but do it in a sympathizing way and victimize the person instead of actually helping. This is just with one Pisces moon I know and I am not sure I am explaining it right haha. Where cap energy I think likes to be a pillar of strength. IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted October 20, 2019 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
I love your question so much It's always "that sign doesn't like needy" "that Venus won't stand needy", but most of us are needy, at least at times
I think Capricorn could, I mean with Cancer as an opposite, it has to have a tolerance for times of clinginess, as long as they are paired with times of independence, the crab tides, coming and going...
Leo could be a good bet too, something about the generosity and grandeur and being fine with being an idol too
Taurus can take emotional neediness but to a point...
I'm not sure, but I do hope even the most typical Aquarius can take a dose of neediness, it's just a human trait
I like that you say neediness is okay and a human trait because it is. I struggle with my own neediness and looking down on it. I do not like to show people I am a mess emotionally but if a person does see on rare occasion it I hope they do not run haha. Cancer and Taurus are very comforting they both come across as motherly to me so I can see how they are more open to emotional issues. IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted October 20, 2019 08:24 PM
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charlie
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posted October 21, 2019 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I can only speak for myself (triple Cappy), but I like needy people, because I get to help them. Being needy is different from being a bloodsucking tick, though.
This! I love to help, when/if I can with physical things or mental things. I do however have a huge problem with emotionally needy/messy people! IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted October 21, 2019 01:54 PM
I have Cap Sun and Merc and Aqua Venus and Descendant. The traditional, faster moving, more personal (and thus more sensitive) ruler of these, Saturn, is conjunct the Moon (which is in Libra). Another way of saying that is, Lunar energy (along with Libra and 12th House matters/areas, as these are the main symbols associated with the Moon) is shading into (like an underlying sub harmonic) those above patterns. The Cap combined with Lunar energy indicates a natural nurturing tendency and instinct. (My Mom, a Cap Sun and Merc with Cancer Moon, also very much had this dynamic/pattern). But it depends what you mean by "needy". I would say in some respect, and in some ways, most of us have some neediness whether we show it or not. Most humans deep down, just want to be loved, valued, and appreciated. So much of our suffering, at it's core and roots stem from a lack of true self Love and acceptance. Unfortunately, many of us think that we can patch that with outside attention, affection, etc, which isn't true and often leads to disappointment when the harsh reality hits. I believe in positive service to others. That translates to, I like helping people that are interested in helping themselves. As regards the nurturing aspect, it comes out in various different ways (from liking to make meals for people, little gestures of affection and kindness, hugs, emotional support, etc). When I was spending time with a new friend/romantic interest the weekend before last, she commented in almost surprise, "you touch me so lovingly." Her having 12th House Pisces Moon and South Node, and Scorpio Venus, was picking up that on a deeper level, I was feeling/sending a lot of spiritual love and heart type energy along with the soft, affectionate gentle touching and caressing. While I had some sexual attraction and interest in her, for the most part I was trying to keep it platonic and faster vibratory in nature i.e. more spiritual and heart centered love. Apparently she was not use to that. That really struck me and made me feel somewhat sad for her (and for women in general, because I know it's not uncommon). But to clarify, I am not attracted to people that have tendencies towards excessive neediness. It's a bit of a turn off. But, I don't attract those types. I usually attract the very opposite, the hyper independent types that are afraid to be vulnerable, soft, open, and receptive. That either don't like a lot of and/or are not willing to give a lot of affection, attention, etc. This seems to be partly indicated by Aqua Descendant and Venus square Scorp Uranus. My progressed Venus is in Aries, so I have wondered if that plays a part in indication more lately, because it seems like lately, the pattern is a really hyper independence and very masculine/Yang attuned energy. The above person I mentioned has Sagittarius Sun, Mercury, Mars, and Neptune with Aries Rising, and Leo Jupiter. She is definitely tipped to the Yang side all in all. IP: Logged |
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posted October 21, 2019 02:33 PM
I'm going to be an outlier here and say no. My 11th house is ruled by Capricorn, the majority of my best friends falling under that sign. In my experience, Caps have a rise above attitude. Wherever the goats are on the mountain they're climbing is what they allow in their lives. They're constantly trying to surround themselves with worthy, stable people. They will be the first to give sage advice because they've learned the Saturnian lessons the hard way, but they refuse to help someone who won't help themselves. And they definitely won't hang with people who they consider are "beneath" them. As a Pisces who has allowed all walks of life/ energy to take advantage of me, I respect their attitudes so much and that's probably why the sign rules my 11th. It's not so much about not wanting needy people in your life, but more of knowing your worth and not allowing others to lower your vibration.IP: Logged |
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posted October 21, 2019 04:59 PM
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posted October 21, 2019 05:47 PM
"And they definitely won't hang with people who they consider are "beneath" them." I don't see anybody as "beneath" me or any others. I do admit I have very little patience and time for those who fall into the malignant narcissistic and psychopathic spectrum's, because I feel in most cases they can't be reached/helped. But then again, I've never felt like a stereotypical Capricorn in certain respects. IP: Logged |
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posted October 21, 2019 11:19 PM
MMarie: Mostly emotional help, but also physical (such as a ride to work), and situations like helping someone do the paperwork to get into college.
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Moonbeth
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posted October 23, 2019 06:32 PM
and... do needy people like Capricorns? IP: Logged |
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posted October 23, 2019 07:04 PM
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and... do needy people like Capricorns?
I don't think there is a better candidate for needy people, unless they are "weak" needy people.. then Virgo would be the best one. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted October 23, 2019 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
What sign is attracted to someone who is an emotional mess or someone who does not know how to deal with their emotions?
Pisces and Virgos. Pisces try to help in a more psychological/emotional way while Virgos in a practical way. Capricorns aren't good with expressing and analyzing emotions verbally. Unless they have hard natal Neptune aspects to their personal planets they don't like this type of messy people. Scorpio is empathetic and has intense emotions plus good intuition but doesn't enjoy this either. Cancers are empathetic, compassionate and understanding but they are on a healthier level than Pisces. IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted October 24, 2019 02:27 PM
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and... do needy people like Capricorns?
Could be very true! IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted October 24, 2019 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Pisces and Virgos. Pisces try to help in a more psychological/emotional way while Virgos in a practical way. Capricorns aren't good with expressing and analyzing emotions verbally. Unless they have hard natal Neptune aspects to their personal planets they don't like this type of messy people. Scorpio is empathetic and has intense emotions plus good intuition but doesn't enjoy this either. Cancers are empathetic, compassionate and understanding but they are on a healthier level than Pisces.
Yes, I agree that the Virgo/Pisces axis could be prone to attracting these type of people. Have seen it first hand with someone I worked with. Also agree with everything else you said! Haha
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posted October 24, 2019 04:05 PM
Yes, needy people love Capricorns!IP: Logged |
Moonbeth
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posted October 26, 2019 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I don't think there is a better candidate for needy people, unless they are "weak" needy people.. then Virgo would be the best one.
My point exactly, though I have to disagree about Virgo. I feel if someone is needy in a way that irritates my moon, my sun isn't going to be gentler, something about virgo that makes them help by lecturing on how to help oneself rather than practically helping sometimes. Blissful rescue or annoying anti-help depending on the situation 😊
I feel Pisces is the go-to for "weak" needy. IP: Logged | |
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