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Topic: Sagittarius That Won't Leave
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TrueScorpio Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Sep 2017
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posted October 21, 2019 06:08 PM
Help me understand this: I broke things off with a Sag Sun Leo Moon we were only together maybe 3 1/2-4 weeks most of which we did not see each other much. He told me through tears that we would not be talking again and that we would not be friends. I said that I respected his decision. Well the was last Wednesday and he has text me nonstop since then. I thought you couldn't keep a Sag tied down and Leo's are off to the next conquest. Any thoughts why? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 269 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 21, 2019 06:14 PM
You often have to go far deeper into the chart. That same Sag Sun Leo Moon, with say Moon or Pluto conjunct the Ascendant, in the 1st, or otherwise very strong, would likely be a lot more emotionally attached. Leo being a fixed Sign btw, can be somewhat attached. It is the Sign of the heart, and of romantic love. Once someone with strong Leo gets attached to someone, it can be pretty strong. IP: Logged |
TrueScorpio Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Sep 2017
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posted October 21, 2019 06:32 PM
He has Venus in Scorpio and mars in Aquarius I have a lot of Scorpio in my chart. I don't want to hurt him. But we have no future.IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 269 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 21, 2019 06:53 PM
Venus in Scorpio can definitely be an indication of intense attachment in relationships. I've found that they tend to go to the extremes though. Either they won't let go at all, or you're dead to them (at least on the outside). As to why in his particular case, I have no idea. IP: Logged |
TrueScorpio Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Sep 2017
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posted October 21, 2019 09:04 PM
Very interesting about Venus in Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73400 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 21, 2019 09:08 PM
Venus in Scorpio is very intense when in love. Usually they don't like this about themselves but can't help it.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7895 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 22, 2019 02:13 PM
You notice that you are drawn to Aqua Mars? Didn't the first guy(Aqua Sun) we spoke of have Aqua Mars too?IP: Logged |
Hierophantom Knowflake Posts: 71 From: Netherlands Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 22, 2019 02:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueScorpio: Help me understand this: I broke things off with a Sag Sun Leo Moon we were only together maybe 3 1/2-4 weeks most of which we did not see each other much. He told me through tears that we would not be talking again and that we would not be friends. I said that I respected his decision. Well the was last Wednesday and he has text me nonstop since then. I thought you couldn't keep a Sag tied down and Leo's are off to the next conquest. Any thoughts why?
OMG is this something about Sags that are just stalking prone? I once dated a guy, and even well over his 40's, when I broke things up he just wouldn't leave me alone. Had to turn him in for stalking and he got punished. No bad stalking, no creepy things, just annoying and I couldn't get rid of him. So my Aquarius Moon just turned to the police. I can be cold as ice and if the friendly way does not work, I turn to the authorities. Must be an Aquamoon-thingy... ------------------ Mercury conjunct Neptune: Can I take a message? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 12831 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 22, 2019 05:23 PM
My Sadge mother with Venus in Scorpio, never stalked anyone. She was usually the one to break things off, and accepted it the rare time that someone else did. IP: Logged |
TrueScorpio Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Sep 2017
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posted October 22, 2019 05:34 PM
I noticed Mars in Aquarius straight up too :/ However, this Mars expression wasn't anything like last Aquarius Mars. In fact, overall, Mr. Aquarius seems less Aqua than the Sagittarius. It's a crazy pattern I want to break but it keeps occurring. Why???There's no stalking energy at all. I get the impression my little Sag just wants a relationship so badly that he kind of can't let go. Not that I'm so great or anything, I think anyone meeting his criteria would do. T IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7895 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 22, 2019 05:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueScorpio: I noticed Mars in Aquarius straight up too :/ However, this Mars expression wasn't anything like last Aquarius Mars. In fact, overall, Mr. Aquarius seems less Aqua than the Sagittarius. It's a crazy pattern I want to break but it keeps occurring. Why???There's no stalking energy at all. I get the impression my little Sag just wants a relationship so badly that he kind of can't let go. Not that I'm so great or anything, I think anyone meeting his criteria would do. T
Hmmm...guess you feeling claustrophobic?Lol.He has Ven in Sco square Mars in Aqua by sign.Are they in aspect? His Mars in Aqua disguises the intensity of Venus and his Moon in Leo. I knew a Mars in Aqua/Leo Moon.And he would tend to appear more "casual" than is really the case. Though mine had Venus in Gemini(curious e?nergy that has vasts interests) yours has Venus in Scorpio(potent energy that gets emotionally caught up in where their interest lies) Oftentimes his interests(Scorpio) take him to one extreme. Yet his emotional feelings lead to an extreme "other".And the two are hard to reconcile. Do i love hard? And then risk betrayal? Or do i proceed with caution and take no gambles in love at all? Fixed energy tends to resist change or will try to minimize it etc.And its interesting that you said he wants to be in a relationship(it matters not with whom) And that sounds about right with some people. In time he'll let go. Perhaps emotionally it was an ill timed period to embark on anything romantic(in his case) IP: Logged |
TrueScorpio Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Sep 2017
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posted October 22, 2019 09:45 PM
Because I love to case study with you I'll share my observations. His Leo Moon felt overwhelming to me. It was like we had parallel conversations where he never entered, just segued into another story about him. He's very attractive but the way he moved was 'clumsy' couldn't dance but loved to. I'm such a Libra Venus, my ascent is very early Scorpio and often feels more Libra to me, so this just 'bothered' me. He also seemed very insecure, kind of superficial, not aware of himself or others. Remember, these always just come as vibes to me so they're hard to describe and must sound mean. The nail in the coffin was that he was a terrible kisser! I can't believe he had any Scorpio in his being. I must sound so horrible, please know these observations are neutral IMO But his Leo Moon helped me see how my Leo Mars could feel very annoying (even to myself IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 269 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 22, 2019 10:07 PM
Lol, I don't think strong Leo has any correlation with bad kissing in a direct sense. My partner and I have been in an open relationship for 11 years. She being both an extrovert and female, she has dated a lot more than I have. She has kissed a fair number of men. Most of them she thought ranged from ok, to didn't kiss very well, to were really bad at it. Only a couple did she describe as really good kissers. I actually taught her to kiss well. When we met, she (at age 20) was a horrible kisser (she had only one boyfriend before me and he didn't like to kiss). It may sound odd, but I helped her get in touch more with her feminine side, slow down, feel and intuit it out, be more responsive/receptive, be more gentle and soft or conversely kiss with intense passion but know when to alternate. I didn't like kissing her when we first met and for a little while after, it was like what I imagine kissing a slobbery dog with a big and wild tongue would be like (I hope she never reads this post because I may become disappeared....). I have Leo Ascendant. (But I also have Libra Moon and fairly strong Venus, strong Neptune, Scorp IC, near exact Venus Pluto trine, strong Yin). If strong Leo is balanced by strong Yin, strong Venus, and/or more deeply passionate but more Water like energy, it can lead to a responsive, attentive, passionate, and romantic lover who aims to please. But selfish or overly Yang polarized men with strong Leo, yeah, often times they only care about getting theirs. (I happen to think that how a man kisses, tends to reflect his general love making style and aptitude, but I may be wrong as I haven't kissed all that many men myself. There was only this one time at Burning Man...) Singular Sign generalization in general don't tend to be all that helpful or accurate, as ever the whole chart context needs to be taken into account--especially the strongest Planetary energies. IP: Logged |
TrueScorpio Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Sep 2017
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posted October 22, 2019 10:16 PM
I agree with single sign generalizing myself. The reason I linked the two (kissing and his Leo Moon) is that he kissed like he was the only one there. I'll spare you the details and I also agree that this is strongly connected to more intimate components of a physical relationship, so I would never even go there with this chap. I have Neptune in Scorpio too, hmm. I have to confess to feeling quite bad about throwing this poor chap under the bus. I do not think his kissing would have improved with even diligent tutoring fro me. I hope he meets a like minded kisser. We all want to connect in a meaningful way with another and kissing is wonderful in my opinion! IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 269 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 22, 2019 11:03 PM
Yeah, I agree, with the caveat that kissing with the right person is quite nice and enjoyable. I was very bummed when the person I spent a good portion of the weekend with a couple weekends ago, would not let me kiss her ("too intimate"). IP: Logged |
TrueScorpio Knowflake Posts: 130 From: Registered: Sep 2017
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posted October 23, 2019 05:55 PM
That is a bummer!IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7895 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 23, 2019 06:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by TrueScorpio: Because I love to case study with you I'll share my observations. His Leo Moon felt overwhelming to me. It was like we had parallel conversations where he never entered, just segued into another story about him. He's very attractive but the way he moved was 'clumsy' couldn't dance but loved to. I'm such a Libra Venus, my ascent is very early Scorpio and often feels more Libra to me, so this just 'bothered' me. He also seemed very insecure, kind of superficial, not aware of himself or others. Remember, these always just come as vibes to me so they're hard to describe and must sound mean. The nail in the coffin was that he was a terrible kisser! I can't believe he had any Scorpio in his being. I must sound so horrible, please know these observations are neutral IMO But his Leo Moon helped me see how my Leo Mars could feel very annoying (even to myself
Terrible kisser? Argh! That is it! Shut down absolutely everything and mantain that righteous stance for breaking things off.Geesh! I joke ofcourse I actually experience the Scorpio Asc with you. You delve deeper. But of course there is that Venus in Libra that wants to keep the rapport pleasant(I can relate as Mars is in Libra in my case ) Interesting how you mentioned that he came across "superficial". That for Scorpio means he lacked "emotional intelligence"(which is so attractive) or spoke a lot but said NOTHING. I think his Venus in Scorpio could express itself in an awkward way. I wonder if there is a square between Moon and Venus? Like I heard someone with Venus in Scorpio/Moon in Leo placement once say "I am a very deeply intelligent person who reads people like a book. Nothing escapes me" etc. I don't know, but to me the above sounded so cheesy and arrogant as my argument is if you are the Sun, people can see you. You don't have to jump up and down and declare "I am the Sun". So with that person, that was already a strong indicator that the person buys into his own hype lol. So perhaps the Sag expressed himself in a similar awkward manner? There's a Scorpio Sun/Venus , Moon in Cap & Mars in Cap I know. He comes across strongly immature to me. This even with Cap energy-as he comes across so righteous with a "I showed them what an ethical/moral person I am" energy that I just can't stand. Most Venus in Scorpio folks would like to believe that "depth" or sex appeal is something intrinsic to their DNA by the virtue of having that placement alone. But experience has also taught me that life can also bless us with some serious "doozies" There is so much more to a chart for real.
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