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mztiny
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posted October 26, 2019 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aries!!!

It's been a long time and I have missed all your helpful advice and expert knowledge.

I trust you so much with all this and I am just at a loss to the current weather of my transits.

Pluto is coming up to my Natal NN (6th house Cap) Saturn in 10th house. I have many opportunities but I don't know which way to go.

Can you help me understand this transit?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 27, 2019 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there. . Its been a minute.

I will respond to you in a while. Just a little preoccupied now but just wanted to let you know that I have seen this thread

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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 27, 2019 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read the North and South nodes as inseparable.They call for integration as wherever your head goes(North node), you take the rest of you with you(South Node).

Cancer south node would suggest a native who lets intuition and feelings guide them or become the basis of their decision making capabilities or lack thereof.

Cancer energy is strongly emotive and therefore not intellectual or easily mentally discernable.It speaks to the intuitive self more than the rational mind.

When in the 12th house, this sharply increases the difficulties on one hand to discern the messages that are from within(let alone trust them)-if one is looking for clarity through intellectual probing.

What happens typically is that one doubts oneself. Assuming that this state of "confusion" they experience means that they have to look for direction and advice outside of themselves(thereby giving power away to another) i.e religion, the government, family or people who are "wiser"/"experts" and hanging on their every word.

On the other hand, it could also mean that if the individual seeks to understand the eery messages received within, they may detach from intellectual dissection and pursue a largely "spiritual" life of isolation, meditation or some form of detachment from the "distracting" worldly life.

In the 2nd instance, they may draw more distance from themselves and others and find it difficult to connect or understand the mundane matters of life that concern others so much(because they don't pay attention to them).

The North node then(as polar opposite) becomes clear.

If in the 1st instance of giving power away because you don't trust yourself, you are "pulled" by the North node to be in some type of "authority" position(Cap) in your job or everday life(6th).

This means that you are "forced" to rely on yourself and take on the duty/responsibilities without leaning on counsel,guidance or mentorship from others.

You somehow discover (North node) either through job scarcity,a terrible boss,family relations or lack of support from others etc. That you have to play the role of mentor, advisor, manager or the "grown up"(Cap) etc. to OTHERS and tend to the details(6th).

If in the 2nd instance of being a "guru", you may come to discover that much of what you know is invaluable-if you can't share it with others.So there is a yearning to "save" or provide some type of healing to others.

This would mean that you will have to(metaphorically) come down the mountain, desist speaking in open-ended esoteric terms & bring yourself to be the accessible mentor to people(Cap) by connecting with them in their everyday "mundane" lives(6th).

It could entail grounding the knowledge you speak of and making spiritual "truths" tangible , accessible & relevant to their lives.

With Pluto transits,there is momentum.Massive energy to hone and focus(whether you are the person in the first instance or the 2nd).

So if you are self doubting,Pluto's forceful momentum may attract to you opportunities to either believe in yourself and take your own power back(and not rely so heavily on others)

This could manifest with you being promoted to a new position at work, family dynamics changing to put you in the lead or being at the juncture where you are compelled to take on something that you have little to no experience with.

Naturally, this could have you feel "ill equipped" for what you need to handle(whatever the instance is).But Pluto is adamant that ready or not, it forces growth on you and insists you go in on a wing and prayer alone.

It could also happen that you attract people who will bully you or try to overpower you in some ways. Again, this may force you to do something drastic take up armour to steel yourself from such people.Or risk being enslaved by those whom are intent on bulldozing you.

If you are the mystical guru, Pluto transit may put your beliefs to the test i.e an illness that challenges your core spiritual beliefs, the death/ severing of ties with someone you shared mutual ideals with, a discovery that contradicts or reverses your innate knowledge or even an outright open and confronting disagreement with the someone(typically also an authority figure) whom opposes you publicly.

With the opportunities coming up and the Pluto transit, trust your inner voice more and listen-even when it seems "nonsensical".

Don't be so quick to believe that you don't have the wherewithal and let other people tell you what is "best" for you.But decide through your own initiatives and inner guidance what is true for you.

Whatever the opportunities are, if there is one that is likely to bring about radical(and even "scary") personal expansion , Pluto will likely obliterate others and push you there. It would be a time to be brave and you will progressively appear stronger than people thought.

But even in that resistance from others to accept this emerging self, continue to trust yourself more and be consistent.There is no "wrong" choice now.The only possible "wrong" would be failure to decide OR leaving the decision for someone else to make on your behalf.

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mztiny
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posted October 28, 2019 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I read the North and South nodes as inseparable.They call for integration as wherever your head goes(North node), you take the rest of you with you(South Node).

Cancer south node would suggest a native who lets intuition and feelings guide them or become the basis of their decision making capabilities or lack thereof.

Cancer energy is strongly emotive and therefore not intellectual or easily mentally discernable.It speaks to the intuitive self more than the rational mind.

When in the 12th house, this sharply increases the difficulties on one hand to discern the messages that are from within(let alone trust them)-if one is looking for clarity through intellectual probing.

What happens typically is that one doubts oneself. Assuming that this state of "confusion" they experience means that they have to look for direction and advice outside of themselves(thereby giving power away to another) i.e religion, the government, family or people who are "wiser"/"experts" and hanging on their every word.


On the other hand, it could also mean that if the individual seeks to understand the eery messages received within, they may detach from intellectual dissection and pursue a largely "spiritual" life of isolation, meditation or some form of detachment from the "distracting" worldly life.


>>>>>YOU NAILED IT< this is me to a "T".

In the 2nd instance, they may draw more distance from themselves and others and find it difficult to connect or understand the mundane matters of life that concern others so much(because they don't pay attention to them).


>>>>>>YEP - this happened about two years ago. And still to this day I don't care about mundane matters of life, which has polarized my friendships - I think they think I'm better then them.


The North node then(as polar opposite) becomes clear.

If in the 1st instance of giving power away because you don't trust yourself, you are "pulled" by the North node to be in some type of "authority" position(Cap) in your job or everday life(6th).

This means that you are "forced" to rely on yourself and take on the duty/responsibilities without leaning on counsel,guidance or mentorship from others.

You somehow discover (North node) either through job scarcity,a terrible boss,family relations or lack of support from others etc. That you have to play the role of mentor, advisor, manager or the "grown up"(Cap) etc. to OTHERS and tend to the details(6th).


>>>>>>>YEP I did this just recently!


If in the 2nd instance of being a "guru", you may come to discover that much of what you know is invaluable-if you can't share it with others.So there is a yearning to "save" or provide some type of healing to others.


>>>>>> I DO FEEL THIS SOMETIMES.


This would mean that you will have to(metaphorically) come down the mountain, desist speaking in open-ended esoteric terms & bring yourself to be the accessible mentor to people(Cap) by connecting with them in their everyday "mundane" lives(6th).

It could entail grounding the knowledge you speak of and making spiritual "truths" tangible , accessible & relevant to their lives.

>>>>>>> I DEFINITELY SPEAK THIS WAY TO MY FRIENDS.

With Pluto transits ,there is momentum. Massive energy to hone and focus(whether you are the person in the first instance or the 2nd).

>>>>>>> OH YEAH I FEEL IT COMING!


So if you are self doubting,Pluto's forceful momentum may attract to you opportunities to either believe in yourself and take your own power back(and not rely so heavily on others)

This could manifest with you being promoted to a new position at work, family dynamics changing to put you in the lead or being at the juncture where you are compelled to take on something that you have little to no experience with.

>>>>>>>>YEP, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO WRITE AND PERFORM A ONE WOMAN SHOW ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN ( I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE)!!!


Naturally, this could have you feel "ill equipped" for what you need to handle(whatever the instance is).But Pluto is adamant that ready or not, it forces growth on you and insists you go in on a wing and prayer alone.

It could also happen that you attract people who will bully you or try to overpower you in some ways. Again, this may force you to do something drastic take up armour to steel yourself from such people.Or risk being enslaved by those whom are intent on bulldozing you.

>>>>>>>>MY CURRENT Colleagues (much older women) are driving me nuts with all the mothering and criticism, I used to love it but now I want to KILL THEM (joking) but seriously driving me mad!!!


If you are the mystical guru, Pluto transit may put your beliefs to the test i.e an illness that challenges your core spiritual beliefs, the death/ severing of ties with someone you shared mutual ideals with, a discovery that contradicts or reverses your innate knowledge or even an outright open and confronting disagreement with the someone(typically also an authority figure) whom opposes you publicly.

>>>>>>>>NOT SO MUCH, I LEARNED TO GET MY HEALTH UNDER CONTROL YEARS AGO BUT DEALING WITH SEVERING TIES W/AUTH FIG, YEP!!!,


With the opportunities coming up and the Pluto transit, trust your inner voice more and listen-even when it seems "nonsensical".

Don't be so quick to believe that you don't have the wherewithal and let other people tell you what is "best" for you.But decide through your own initiatives and inner guidance what is true for you.

Whatever the opportunities are, if there is one that is likely to bring about radical(and even "scary") personal expansion , Pluto will likely obliterate others and push you there. It would be a time to be brave and you will progressively appear stronger than people thought.


>>>>>>>> OH YEAH, THE ONE WOMAN SHOW in NYC ,the opportunity is beyond amazing but I would have to quit my LOSING 30K AT LEAST.... SOOO SCARY!!!


But even in that resistance from others to accept this emerging self, continue to trust yourself more and be consistent.There is no "wrong" choice now.The only possible "wrong" would be failure to decide OR leaving the decision for someone else to make on your behalf.



God bless you Aries, I thank you from the bottom of my heart!!!!
HUGS
TRACEY

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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 29, 2019 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad to be of assistance. I myself am facing a few changes too lol. Pluto opp Moon by transit and square Asc/Mars conj Mc is actualizing massive momentum to fundamental change(Moon).

On some days , I am so afraid. On others, I am like "come what may". Its all so hectic really.

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teasel
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posted October 29, 2019 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

On some days , I am so afraid. On others, I am like "come what may". Its all so hectic really.

Same here. I feel okay today, thank goodness.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 30, 2019 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Same here. I feel okay today, thank goodness.

Self soothing helps.

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mztiny
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posted October 31, 2019 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Aries - that is some powerful transit, self soothing is so important I am sure.

I find peace in knowing that anything negative that happens via the charts and aspects will pass eventually.

I also try to remind myself that any positive aspect does the same and to not take that for granted.

You are a beautiful being and I wish you many many moments of peace.

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mztiny
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posted October 31, 2019 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Same here. I feel okay today, thank goodness.

Same for you Teasel!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 31, 2019 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mztiny:
Wow Aries - that is some powerful transit, self soothing is so important I am sure.

I find peace in knowing that anything negative that happens via the charts and aspects will pass eventually.

I also try to remind myself that any positive aspect does the same and to not take that for granted.

You are a beautiful being and I wish you many many moments of peace.


Thank you so much.I could use this positive energy at this time.

There are good days ofcourse. But then there are days where everything feels so urgent i.e "leap now....leap now."

I am making preparations mentally all the time. Once the decision is made, there is no looking back

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mztiny
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posted November 07, 2019 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Same here. I feel okay today, thank goodness.

Same for you Teasel!

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Randall
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posted November 12, 2019 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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