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SoulOfABird
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posted November 05, 2019 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im interested in knowing more about the guy I like. But his chart is so confusing! His chart is all over the place.

What I don't understand is that a lot of placements in his chart point to someone who is "sexual" but he has made comments that make me feel like he isn't so much. Not saying he isn't sexual or anything, but the guys around him seem more perverted than him lol
Like someone asked him if he has seen 50 Shades Of Grey and he said he doesn't like watching stuff like that.
Also another time he made a comment about how he thinks music lyrics shouldn't be provocative and be done more in a "classy" way. sort to speak. He's not a player and seems far from promiscuous. Unlike his friends who are bit perverted😬

This was actually one of the things that attracted me to him. Yet he has a chart that one may see as sexual and a "player"

Also I can't tell if he is one to want to ever get married or commit? He's kind of hard to figure out. Any ideas? What kind of person do you think he is based on his chart?
Id appreciate any input thanks (:

Ps: Just in case I don't mean that anyone who is "sexual" is a pervert, what I mean is that he doesn't seem too into "erotic" things and that it surprised me that someone with his chart isn't given that I would assume he needs intimacy but he hasn't been in a relationship for a while.

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posted November 05, 2019 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems like he may have very deep and/or sacred views towards sex. There is a mistaken misconception that strong Scorpio and/or Pluto always indicates someone who is very focused on having sex with others.

No, there is often a focus on sex, but not always in the sense of highly sexed, but sometimes repression, deepening, or redirection of that energy.

But consider this also: The ruler of his 8th, Mars, is in Pisces conjunct Jupiter and the Moon. This is a faster vibratory and fairly Yin polarized Mars.

He's wired more like an archetypal/average woman than a man. Sex for him is likely a very deeply emotional, borderline spiritual/energetic and/or sacred activity for him.

I can very much relate, except that I have little repression regarding sexual stuff (that, and having strong Leo and some 5th House highlighting, there is a greater emphasis on romance, and sex as also something fun and pleasurable, besides the deep spiritual sacred part that is related to Jupiter, Pisces, Neptune being all connected to Mars and to the 5th and 8th Houses).

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posted November 06, 2019 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@GalacticCoreExplosion

Thank you for your input (:
Yes I was thinking that as well. I thought maybe he has a deeper view on sex. I do get what you mean with Scorpio. I do tend to assume that Scorpios are highly sexual, and I get that doesn't always equate to being promiscuous. But it seems that a lot of the people Ive known to be quite sexual have Scorpio or strong Scorpio in their charts. Like one of his friends says a lot of sexual things and he has Scorpio mars. But I guess it's like one or the other lol Scorpio is all or nothing. Plus that Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio got me thinking he really is Plutonian. But unlike some other people with Scorpio placements I know he doesn't talk much about sex or anything like that much. And even in his music nothing dirty.

"Supposably" according to our synastry we are supposed to be very sexually compatible. And I feel like my views on sex and intimacy are very similar. My 8th house is ruled by my Venus in Pisces and tightly conjuncts his mars. My 5th house is ruled by my moon and my moon is in the 12th house conjunct Jupiter. Im not sure if that counts but now that you mention those patterns in a chart it puts his chart in a whole other perspective for me!
It's crazy because when you look up aspects individuality it can slightly change the meaning. I guess you really have to look at the whole chart.
It's nice to hear he might have that view on sex. *sighs*Why does he have to be so perfect 😩

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posted November 06, 2019 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't see the chart at all

But look for Mars/Saturn or Mars/Neptune affiliated placements.Also possible is Mars in 6th/7th.

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posted November 06, 2019 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

His 9th house Chiron (at 18Gemini49) opposes his 3rd house Sun/Uranus mid-point (at 18Sagittarius27). ... So, a very strong light is constantly shining on his Chiron wound - which the ruler of Gemini/Chiron (afflicted/peregrine* Mercury in Scorpio/2nd) is using to achieve it's own purpose(s). ... Hence, the rulers of his Mercury (Pluto in Scorpio/2nd and Mars in Pisces/6th) "sure play a mean pinball".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbQkoj8KkJU

[*"Peregrine planets do seem to take a very roundabout way of getting from point A to Point B. In a natal chart, it is like an actor who has been cast against type in a role; the actor's approach to the part is unusual, and not at all what we would expect, and it takes some time to get used to it/accept the actor's performance - but the actor has a fighting chance of turning in an acceptable performance in the end." ... Astrology - Understanding the Birth Chart, by Kevin Burk.]

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posted November 07, 2019 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Can't see the chart at all

But look for Mars/Saturn or Mars/Neptune affiliated placements.Also possible is Mars in 6th/7th.


Oh nooo that's strange I wonder why Im new to using photo bucket so I still gotta learn how to work it 😬

He has mars square Saturn and sextile Neptune and Mars is in his 6th house! lol you guessed it all correct!
what does it indicate?

Im interested in knowing because I have those placements too except my mars opposes my Saturn and trines Neptune and mars in the 7th house.

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posted November 07, 2019 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

His 9th house Chiron (at 18Gemini49) opposes his 3rd house Sun/Uranus mid-point (at 18Sagittarius27). ... So, a very strong light is [b]constantly
shining on his Chiron wound - which the ruler of Gemini/Chiron (afflicted/peregrine* Mercury in Scorpio/2nd) is using to achieve it's own purpose(s). ... Hence, the rulers of his Mercury (Pluto in Scorpio/2nd and Mars in Pisces/6th) "sure play a mean pinball".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbQkoj8KkJU

[*"Peregrine planets do seem to take a very roundabout way of getting from point A to Point B. In a natal chart, it is like an actor who has been cast against type in a role; the actor's approach to the part is unusual, and not at all what we would expect, and it takes some time to get used to it/accept the actor's performance - but the actor has a fighting chance of turning in an acceptable performance in the end." ... Astrology - Understanding the Birth Chart, by Kevin Burk.][/B]


wow what exactly does that mean? sorry Im a bit lost

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posted November 07, 2019 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hierophantom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you sure you have his birth time correct because all the angles are 0 degrees...

So Mars is in Pisces but square Saturn... So maybe a little repressed sexually, or very traditional.

Pisces is a very dualistic sign and prone to escapism, so they are also likely to cheat when there are issues in the relationship. They are also the ones who like to take drugs when having sex to deepen the experience and make it a spiritual one. I don't say everyone will do that, but if I see this in a chart I would search for someone else.

Words also have no meaning for me, I have the experience that what people say is different from what they really are. So for me, the astrology is my truth, accompanied by body language.

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posted November 07, 2019 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Oh nooo that's strange I wonder why Im new to using photo bucket so I still gotta learn how to work it 😬

He has mars square Saturn and sextile Neptune and Mars is in his 6th house! lol you guessed it all correct!
what does it indicate?

Im interested in knowing because I have those placements too except my mars opposes my Saturn and trines Neptune and mars in the 7th house.


I have said this plenty times on other places here. And I will say it again here : Saturn slows things down and may suggest obstacles to the area of life the aspected planet rules.

When sitting on Venus/Mars, it suggests delays in the area of sexuality i.e late bloomers, people who have been told that having sexual desire is "bad", the conditioned belief that sex is "indecent", "vile" or "dirty".

Maybe certain hangups about sex i.e body insecurities & shame, difficulty in relaxing,delayed or no orgasm, premature ejaculation(in men) or women who experience lots of issues with their vagina when engaging in sex and even(at worst) sexual abuse.

There could have been molestation or rape-which leads the individual to fear or disdain the act altogether because of a traumatic experience or have many psychological inhibitions etc.The list is not exhausted.

Both Venus and Mars deal with sensuality/sexuality whilst the Sun deals with the open expression of one's sex i.e "I am a man and therefore i should dress like......" or "I am non-gender conforming and therefore I will not dress like....".

The 5th is about the expression of the identity and what the native thinks of the sex they are born into etc. All this, forms a part of that identity expression.And that is why society should widen their gaze when it comes to sex and sexual orientation. It is soul(5th) important.

With Saturn/Mars in aspect , I suspect that he is projecting his own inhibitions on to others i.e I don't think its right for me to be provocative.And so other people should not be(this is especially when he judges women).Have they no shame? etc.

Mars in aspect to Neptune blurs the clarity of knowing what one wants(in sexual intimacy or otherwise).And it takes them a very long time to clear the smoke or find a way out of the maze.

There is difficulty in going after what one wants openly because one is never certain.So the other alternative would be to go after it secretly or never declare it openly to the world-as they can change their mind.

Another possibility would be that Neptune adds subtlety to the zealous energy of Mars. So here sexual expression is had through porn(or voyeurism),erotic magazines or self pleasure(masturbation).

Individuals with Neptune/Mars can have a complex sexuality that is tinged in idealism,escapism, romance or downright confusion as to which of the sexuality spectrum they fall i.e am I gay? bi? or indifferent?

Other times it could also suggest asexuality?Maybe a complete aversion to sex ,the suppression of one's sex-drive?The list is again not exhausted when it comes to murky Neptune.

With Mars in 6th, I can surmise that he finicky and a person who likes to do things the "proper" way i.e systematically and thoroughly-checking every detail.

Mars also give aggression when standards are not met.Perhaps this could be a release point for all the pent up sexual energy?Maybe he even works out a lot at the gym to relieve the stress?

Mars in 6th suggests a "technique" focused approach to things(not just sex).So these people can be hard to please because they are "precise" about what makes them happy i.e "don't do it like this, do this instead" etc.

It could also mean one disguises difficulties in sexual expression or satisfaction(6th) by being very sexy or provocative.But appearing aloof or disinterested in having actual sex.

There could be insecurities here or critiquing oneself as not "able" to engage in it? Either body issues, fear of contracting sexual diseases or psychological hangups? These are all possibilities when the obstacles-laiden 6th house is involved.

Mars in 7th can be good at pleasing the partner but be left feeling "unsatisfied".So sex can end up being one-sided and can create frustration on one hand.

On the other hand, they could attract people who antagonize them(sometimes sexually) or "impose" their own fantasies on them.So sex becomes more of a "power-play" than anything else. They live to "please".

Interesting to note that notorious serial killer Frederick West had natal Mars in Aries in the 7th.And he married Rosemary West who had her natal Mars in Libra /Nep conjunct his Asc.

He was at her beck and call.As both tourtured & murdered young women for their own sexual pleasure through playing out dark fantasies.

And in these undertakings, Rosemary-who has Mars/ Nep conj, cracked the whip and was the instigator & leader.

That's also another thing,Mars/Neptune in aspect also suggests someone who is secretly in charge.In the open they may seem tame or even "meek".But behind closed doors, they are a lot more assertive than would otherwise be believed by others who know them from a public pov.


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posted November 07, 2019 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hierophantom:
Are you sure you have his birth time correct because all the angles are 0 degrees...

So Mars is in Pisces but square Saturn... So maybe a little repressed sexually, or very traditional.

Pisces is a very dualistic sign and prone to escapism, so they are also likely to cheat when there are issues in the relationship. They are also the ones who like to take drugs when having sex to deepen the experience and make it a spiritual one. I don't say everyone will do that, but if I see this in a chart I would search for someone else.

Words also have no meaning for me, I have the experience that what people say is different from what they really are. So for me, the astrology is my truth, accompanied by body language.


Yes Im quite sure that the time is correct. However, Im not 100 percent sure if he was born at am or pm. But Im pretty sure it's am because if he was born at pm he would be an Aries rising and I really don't feel he is an Aries rising. He seems like a Libra rising to me, plus I feel the chart with Aries rising wouldn't fit him. But even if he was born at pm the angles are still at 0 degrees I guess he was born at a strange time lol

Im thinking maybe because of his Scorpio influence he takes relationship and love seriously and passionately? I don't know because he's also said he's scared to fall in love. Im not sure if he means he's scared of commitment. It seems he gets bored easily lol


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posted November 07, 2019 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries23degrees

Can it possibly be a mix of both a hang up on sex mixed with somewhat sacred views on it?
I can speak from my own experience that I do have certain views on sex that give me a more conservative view on it. I don't like over sexualization of things and I feel sex is something very connecting and intimate. So I feel I do hold some "sacred" views on sex but as well kind of bothered by over sexualization of things. However, it's my own opinion because a lot of people Ive been around are always encouraging it.
I am a late bloomer as well. So I have not been in a relationship at all and Im currently 22. So Im not completely against sex, even though I feel I can do without it, however if I do I have to be very comfortable and safe with the guy and I have to love him because otherwise I probably would feel icky.
It's funny you mention problems with the genitals because Im very sensitive there, like I honestly get weak and squeamish if I accidentally got hurt there or if I hear about someone else getting hurt there. I nearly faint 😬 Im very weak when it comes to that.

That's from my point of view, however with this guy Im not sure really. I feel like he is romantic but he doesn't seem to be overly sexual.
And you are right he actually has been working out a lot lately! 😂 I didn't think he's be the type to work out but he's been doing it a lot. He does seem like he would be a particular person. He loves to spend money on clothes and cars yet he still saves his money. He's also very work orientated.
His 5th house is in Aquarius so Im not sure what that means

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posted November 08, 2019 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Aries23degrees

Can it possibly be a mix of both a hang up on sex mixed with somewhat sacred views on it?

I can speak from my own experience that I do have certain views on sex that give me a more conservative view on it. I don't like over sexualization of things and I feel sex is something very connecting and intimate. So I feel I do hold some "sacred" views on sex but as well kind of bothered by over sexualization of things. However, it's my own opinion because a lot of people Ive been around are always encouraging it.

I am a late bloomer as well. So I have not been in a relationship at all and Im currently 22. So Im not completely against sex, even though I feel I can do without it,however if I do I have to be very comfortable and safe with the guy and I have to love him because otherwise I probably would feel icky.

It's funny you mention problems with the genitals because Im very sensitive there, like I honestly get weak and squeamish if I accidentally got hurt there or if I hear about someone else getting hurt there. I nearly faint 😬 Im very weak when it comes to that.

That's from my point of view, however with this guy Im not sure really. I feel like he is romantic but he doesn't seem to be overly sexual.

And you are right he actually has been working out a lot lately! 😂 I didn't think he's be the type to work out but he's been doing it a lot.

He does seem like he would be a particular person. He loves to spend money on clothes and cars yet he still saves his money. He's also very work orientated. His 5th house is in Aquarius so Im not sure what that means


Can it be a mix of both sanctifyng & being scared of it? Yes.

Often religious people feel both pleasure and the pain of guilt or doing something "barbaric" with sex. Notice how "sacred" and "scared" are very close neighbours divided by swopping the the letters "ac" around? Its a mindset really.

Being a late bloomer can also do that-make sex seem like a "space launch" and a VERY serious affair indeed. Because I think when one adds "spirituality" to the perception of how the experience "should" be, then all the fun & games go out the window. Jt becomes stringent.

What starts to happen is they may start to dictate the "procedures" and "rules" that it should be engaged under i.e lights off, none must "hear",no "vulgar" language.

There is to be no insertions of objects on body parts,sex can be done only in their bedroom & nowhere else, no "quickies", no videos, done only when in a committed relations etc. Otherwise sex becomes "sacrilegious".

The question now is; does that still making sex "sacred" or "scary". Because one is always weary that one may unwittingly "defile" it?

I speak candidly on this because I am stuck up when it comes to sex. I have pretty rigid views which I parade around as "sacred". Most guys are frustrated with me as when they try and seduce me, I am pretty wound up TIGHT!

And it took psychological digging to realize that my hangups with it are due to beliefs that sex "demeans" a person somehow(That came from parents) And so it must be kept "secret" and done under the outermost "discretion"- otherwise people would judge me harshly if they knew I engaged in it openly.

This has fostered very extreme desires within me goaded by sexual frustration as well as a sex drive that is supressed by guilt and fear on one hand. But also the need of letting myself just get on with it on the other.

So I am seeking help and intervention(also Saturn) to alleviate much of the psychological distress that scares me when it comes to sex.Because sex is scary to me somehow.

Saturn can also suggest enjoying sex later on in life-when all the anxieties around it are relaxed.As Saturn eases up through the passage of time and much of the beliefs we had when young, change when we are older

But what should be added therein is how important it is to be aware and soothe oneself down from those warped beliefs that make sex seem "monstrous" NOW. That it's not necessary to "wait" on old age to magically make all those hangups "disappear".

Problems with the genitals can increase phobias & a defensive attitude towards intimacy. But sort out whether this is more psychological than actual. As actual pain may need physical examination to be relieved(again Saturn)-otherwise it crystallizes to psychological discomfort over time.

Notice how we cringe with discomfort when another person is stuck with a needle? As if it is us who are going through that? This is what I mean by hangups that are psychological . It can "feel" real even when its just a projection or perception we have rooted in a rigid belief of "pain".

5th house cusp in Aqua may suggest a manifestation that hinges on the planet Saturn's (ruler of 5th) sign and aspects. The additional consideration would be theUranus sign and aspects(I always use modern rulers as "additional" rulers unless they occupy that house)

Generally Aqua tends to not follow trends or goes against the current i.e when people are sexualized, they by reverse motion become more conservative.When people are conservative, they become porn stars. Aqua energy can be crazy and paradoxical.

So when in 5th, it could manifest as someone who resists group mentality when it comes to dating, love and pleasure i.e.they may believe in commitment vs. sleeping with just about anyone. But that depends on the Aqua concerned.

On the other end,it could manifest as someone with a sporadic interest in love that disappears as quickly as it came, "love at first sight" encounters or sudden unavoidable feelings of a spark between them & another person etc.

Some can be asexual,pansexual, loving more than one person at a time i.e "throuples", open relationships,long distance relationships(also Nep/Pisces in 5th) can be like this), be gender indifferent/neutral or bisexual.

Aqua is indeed the energy that is more "expect a suprise and still be shocked" than anything else. Loving physical "deformity" that is unique in some way, is also possible i.e dwarfism, disabled people or people born with unusual facial features.

Like your man, I have Mars in 6th conj Dsc. I see it manifest both in 6th and 7th-since Mars also tightly aspects the 6th house ruler(Merc) and Mars in Libra forms a mutual reception with Venus in Scorpio.

I also have Saturn in Scorpio conj Venus and Uranus in 8th.And the latter is responsible for weird & inexplicable sexual kinks that come & go. I have fallen in lust and had people fall in lust with me lot.

My Sun is conj Neptune and Jupiter(Sun rules the 5th house).And so like you,I dream of a spiritually "connected" someone with whom I can consummately bond with and give my "all" to in love.

My therapist asked me if this person is boarding the same plane as Jesus? Lol. Because at my rate, I keep on turning away "earthlings" to look up at the sky in anticipation of what's to fall down from up there whilst life is going on.

Always up at the sky with palpable hope whilst life is still going on. And that's the issue with "sanctity"-it discounts the human element even as you wish to bond with someone who IS human (ironically). Well,unless you are secretly fantasizing to be intimate with an "extra terrestrial" lol.

Actually that could be likely with Neptune and perhaps with Uranus involved Having sex with an alien or wishing for an "out of this world" love experience with an extra terrestrial.

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Sun-Saturn conjunctions are almost always a little prudish and certainly not inclined to allow others into their inner world without knowing them well first.

Venus-Pluto is passion, but not necessarily sex. Expression of sex is Mars and Mars in conjunct the Moon in Pisces making him very romantic and emotional. The 6th house is usually very aware of intentions vs outcomes. They do not tend to act rashly, or inconsiderately.

Chiron opposite Saturn-Sun-Uranus points to an individual who is very low in confidence deep down and feels they are 'separate' and 'different' from the rest of the world. He is a loner and a romantic.

If you take your time to get to know this man he has some beautiful depths. If you are more concerned about his sexual preferences than his heart and his soul longings then you may as well stroll on. He's looking for a deep connection.

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posted November 09, 2019 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sun-Saturn conjunctions are almost always a little prudish and certainly not inclined to allow others into their inner world without knowing them well first.

Venus-Pluto is passion, but not necessarily sex. Expression of sex is Mars and Mars in conjunct the Moon in Pisces making him very romantic and emotional. The 6th house is usually very aware of intentions vs outcomes. They do not tend to act rashly, or inconsiderately.

Chiron opposite Saturn-Sun-Uranus points to an individual who is very low in confidence deep down and feels they are 'separate' and 'different' from the rest of the world. He is a loner and a romantic.

If you take your time to get to know this man he has some beautiful depths. If you are more concerned about his sexual preferences than his heart and his soul longings then you may as well stroll on. He's looking for a deep connection.


Im very much interested in him as person. Im not more concerned about his sexual preferences. It is already quite clear to me he has more to him than I know, and that he is kind and caring person. That's why I even fell for him to begin with. That's why I made this thread to get more input on him that I might be missing. Not just about his sexual preferences. The reason I asked about his sexual preferences was because this was something I noticed that contradicted his chart. Moon conjunct Mars is supposed to maker someone rash and aggressive, as well as Sun square Mars, Venus trine Mars also supposed to make someone's sex drive strong from what Ive read. Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio would make me think is sex drive is strong as well. That's why I asked about that. Because I was wondering what it meant. I like him for him, or at least from my impression of him, not because of his sexual preferences.

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posted November 09, 2019 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries23Degrees

That's very interesting, I didn't ever think about it that way. I think he is also a "late bloomer" because he has said his first love was in college. That's kind of late I suppose? I feel like he wants to be in a relationship but is scared at the same time. Im not sure why. There's probably more insecurities he has that I don't know about. On the outside he seems confident, at least when it comes to his looks because he says he knows he's good looking lol plus people always compliment his looks. But in other ways he might be more insecure.

He does come from a conservative culture though, so maybe that has something to do with it. But ironically he is into the hip hop scene which is more of a "sub culture" from where he's from, so all his friends (in the hip hop scene) are a bit more "unconventional" when it comes to stuff.

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