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meissieri
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posted November 09, 2019 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys, I have made a new video on my Youtube channel that took me long to complete due to technical problems with my computer & internet.

As the title says, what in your chart shows you which signs may juuust p*ss you off a lot, and why others would get mad at you, based on your sign!

http://youtu.be/k0LJLJBjbJs

Any thoughts? Things I missed or was off about? I'd love to know if certain things indeed show in your chart. Do others comment on these traits in you and how they don't like it?

This video was a lot easier to make than I thought I'd be.

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posted November 10, 2019 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 10, 2019 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Randall!

So the amount of views has already passed the amount from some of my other videos - in less than 24 hours!

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posted November 10, 2019 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If someone's Mars conj your Moon or square it in close aspect

If you have squared Moons

If you have squared Mercurys

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posted November 10, 2019 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, if the person has Saturn or Pluto square your NN--YUCk. I have this with someone

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posted November 10, 2019 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Didn't think of the moon yet. I can see the Moon-Mars one working out okay if they have an emphasis on Aries and Cancer, or Moon-Mars in their own chart, though. Means they're probably used to the energy.

Moon-Moon hard aspects are reaaallly hard, when living with them, I agree. Can be made a little less hard if one has an aspect to their moon that matches the other one's moon sign. For ex: Sagittarius vs Gemini moon, but the latter has moon conjunct Jupiter in their chart (or another hard aspect), giving it a Sagittarius flavor.

Squared Mercuries, I can imagine that being especially irritating for Gemini/Mercury-heavy people. Virgo maybe less obviously. I don't notice it very often in my synastry with others, but I also have Merc in the 12th so everything's confusing

Saturn and Pluto are massive challenges. And then with the NN Guess it would depend on the person... like, is it easier if you have it natally, because you've lived with it, or is it *more* difficult, because you're looking for some relief from those heavy energies?

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posted November 10, 2019 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the square is a thwart no matter if you have squares natally or not.

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posted November 12, 2019 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If someone's Mars conj your Moon or square it in close aspect
My Mars in Aries is conjunct this woman's Moon in Aries and we both had trouble getting along. She'd p*ss me off and I'd p*ss her off. I seemed to have just the right thing to say to set her off and vice versa.

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posted November 13, 2019 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]My Mars in Aries is conjunct this woman's Moon in Aries and we both had trouble getting along. She'd p*ss me off and I'd p*ss her off. I seemed to have just the right thing to say to set her off and vice versa.

I think it depends on the signs involved. Aries/Scorpio are ruled by Mars.So both sign energies may have a martial approach to most things-even during social interaction where its not really even necessary. lol

For someone with Moon in Aries getting with a Mars in Cancer, wouldn't this square work out better because of the mutual reception of the two energies involved?

Saturn is another one that may produce feelings of "I don't like you"-mostly from the Sat person.But once again, signs play a pivotal role.

Sat in Scor for instance will be negatively predisposed to Moon in Scorpio. But be positively affectionate to Taurus there-this despite the opposition by sign and aspect.

Saturn in Lib will like Venus in Lib but absolutely avoid Venus in Aries. The latter is in their opinion,far too "rowdy".

Saturn in Cap may not like Moon in Cancer.And the feeling is mutual-this whether by aspect or sign as the two are "double" opposites.And this emphasizes the holistic differences in their instinctive approaches.

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posted November 13, 2019 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not like Mars conjunct my Moon/Venus. It also squares my normally placid Mars, which doesn't help. My brother-in-law has his Mars conjunct my Moon/Venus/SN, and he is the worst.

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posted November 13, 2019 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Regarding Mars-Moon hard aspects, I did not consider the moon yet but of course!!

I think it *does* depend on what other aspects a conjunction (if we're still talking about that one haha) sets off. As you may remember, if you have any hard aspects to that natal Mars or moon (whichever one you are in that conj), it will get triggered. Either their emotions/way of expressing said emotions, their habits and what they find comfortable just ****** you off as Mars and just challenges you, makes you feel like you have to defend what you stand for.

While if you're moon, the way they express anger, assert themselves, point out what bothers them, what drives them and energizes them will go directly against what you find comfortable, what you feel good about. Or it may really affect your moods. Maybe even your eating habits (stress eating, for example).

But that's maybe more for the square/opp/sesqui or semisquare/quincunx. With the conjunction it could play out as possibly triggering some things from the moon person's past/family life growing up. While as Mars maybe the way they've been raised and live by just makes you defensive and like you're invading their life or something like that. Or that they make you feel like a giant a**hole (even if you're a woman) for how hard they take your words/how they react to you asserting yourself. (I have another story on that lol)

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posted November 13, 2019 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I do not like Mars conjunct my Moon/Venus. It also squares my normally placid Mars, which doesn't help. My brother-in-law has his Mars conjunct my Moon/Venus/SN, and he is the worst.

^This is exactly what I suspect is the most in play when a conjunction to the moon or Mars happens. Any hard aspects you have natally to your moon or Mars, whichever one you are in the conjunction, gets triggered HARD. Whether it's because of an emotional thing or feeling super vulnerable (moon) or makes you feel like you're being opposed/oppressed and have to fight back (Mars), it triggers something.

Though of course, if you've looked into your natal chart and such, it can help a lot that you at least *know* what's going on.

And in your case, Teasel, you even have both with moon and Venus, so people who put a planet on there will really need to think before they speak (which is so hard to do for heavy Mars).

Lol at least that's what I think and all.

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posted November 13, 2019 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hate is a strong word indicating loathing. I don't lay that at the feet of astrology, no matter the reasoning, especially not in generalities of "signs." I don't believe planets or any astrological influence induces involuntary loathing of another. That says something about what is already inside you.

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posted November 15, 2019 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ No, you're right that hate is a bit too strongly-worded. I struggled with a title that fit the character limit, or just how to word it, and settled on this.

Also got to admit I got too influenced by "pop astro" videos on Youtube/Twitter, where it's really common to write titles like this as clickbait.

Re: what's already inside you...
That sounds like a projected 7th house thing, projecting things you don't like in yourself onto others. When I see people go "I hate <sign>", I've seen them mention their DSC sign (or ruler, or planets in the 7th) so often I don't think it's a coincidence.

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posted November 15, 2019 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone here who has an elemental void (= no planets in a certain element) like me, who have struggled with some signs because of it?

Just another topic from the vid.

I have no air planets in my chart. Having an air ASC and Ceres in Gemini helps a little, but I do feel the massive... I guess lack of it when interacting with people heavy in air signs, who can only make few supportive aspects to my planets/angles.
And yes, prior to coming to LL and really studying astro, I was pretty much always going on and on venting about how horrible Aquarius I thought was (which is, very fittingly, my NN) because of the lack of supportive aspects. I wasn't into parallels yet back then, so I don't know if I did have those.
But since I've been here, I've had a lot of positive relationships with some Aquarius-heavy people here, so it's absolutely possible. Just makes me notice again how much objectivity or wording myself can be when I interact with them, who seem to do it all fluently.

Again, wondering if anyone else without planets in an element (or mode, house type, etc.) has had an experience like this?

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posted November 15, 2019 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no planets in earth, only asteroids, and progressions (my progressed moon is almost out of Capricorn, and progressed sun was in Taurus for thirty years). I also have planets in earth houses, like sun in the 6th.

I also have a lot of friends with earth Suns, moons, and rising. Mainly their moons. My earth houses are third, seventh, and tenth/eleventh. It isn't that they balance me out, we just get along. Taurus moon figures most prominently, but Cappy moon is close behind. I know more Virgo Suns than moons. My best friend since the age of eleven, is a cancer sun/Cappy moon, with mercury in Gemini, Venus in Leo, and Mars/Jupiter in Aries. We met when she was cheerful and good-natured (still is), and I was painfully shy. We hit it off immediately. At the moment, I see her Virgo sister more on Facebook (she's hilarious, and works as a social worker, so she lives up to the Virgo stereotype there, but she's sarcastic as hell, and I love her).

I have had problems with a few Cappy Suns, but I've also had trouble with a few Gemini women, and according to astrology, we should love each other. The last one to give me trouble was back in the spring, but I think she knows she had the wrong idea, so we are still in touch.

I wish I knew more people with Mars at the beginning of Gemini, just to see if they have the same effect. I wish nothing bad on the guy I mentioned, my BIL, but I never want to be around him again. Or to have anyone screw with me on his behalf.

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posted November 22, 2019 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 25, 2019 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for bumping this again Randall!!

teasel, yeah that was exactly the kind of example I was hoping for to get here! Is it just her Cap Moon? Like, if she doesn't have any other planets there, it becomes a singleton, so that Cappy energy reallllyy stands out (and her softer, lunar side). She's got a lot of fire planets from the sound of it, so that'd definitely help with helping you get more out of your shell.
And Virgo sun, social worker. Yeah just living up to the stereotype.

Oh of course there's the odd sun/moon/whatever that you may not like or feel drawn to, but synastry is a big thing about that too.

Hmm do you feel challenged by my posts? My Mars would be squaring yours if it's in the beginning of the sign.

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posted November 25, 2019 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meissieri:

Hmm do you feel challenged by my posts? My Mars would be squaring yours if it's in the beginning of the sign.


No, I don't.

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posted November 25, 2019 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't watch the video but I'm a taurus sun, and I'm just guessing that sagittarius ****** us off the most...

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