posted November 27, 2019 08:00 PM            

Understand astrological factors for their qualitative meaning instead of good/bad, best/worst. Otherwise astrology is of little use.

There are always positives in every placement. That is to say, there is a strength inherent within every placement. It is a matter of tapping into it and developing it further.

Moon in 12th has closer access to the shared subconscious than any lunar position. In other words, intuition in which just below the surface there is awareness and knowledge of what is going on not just on a personal subconscious level, but with those around you and in the world generally. So the potential weakness is lostness in this by not connecting with it and utilizing it constructively. The difficulty comes with not understanding your own needs, sacrificing or over-reaching to meet those of others.

posted November 29, 2019 08:18 PM            

I can look at a person and see who they are as an individual. Even with pictures I've been asked by family friends and colleagued each time been on the money. I've kept myself out of drama, most times with romance. I can read tarot cards and even have premonitions. Helps me to see the good in life as well. I also have north node in Gemini conjunct moon in 12th house but I love it.

posted November 30, 2019 12:29 AM            

Problems with the mother. A difficult relationship with her or she is absent from the person life.

She can be present but very neglecting. Overall... difficulties with the mother.

Moon is very different from Venus. Moon always represents the mother while the Venus the other women.

posted November 30, 2019 08:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
From a karmic point of view...

Problems with the mother. A difficult relationship with her or she is absent from the person life.

She can be present but very neglecting. Overall... difficulties with the mother.

Moon is very different from Venus. Moon always represents the mother.

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This is VERY true for me. Do any of you another 12H moon natives have had these issues?

posted November 30, 2019 10:14 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
This is VERY true for me. Do any of you another 12H moon natives have had these issues?

I know of other people with this placement and they didn't have problematic relationships with their mother.

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posted December 03, 2019 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
From a karmic point of view...

Problems with the mother. A difficult relationship with her or she is absent from the person life.

She can be present but very neglecting. Overall... difficulties with the mother.

Moon is very different from Venus. Moon always represents the mother while the Venus the other women.

Both these planets are very difficult if found in 12th house. Karmic debts towards the mother/ women.

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I think I might be the weirdest person ever because I have a positively aspected moon in Leo in 12th house. Sun also rules my 12th. I have a weird WEIRD relationship with women tbh....as a woman and I’m a moon trine my 8th house Venus in Taurus. Weird right?!

Women are ok, they are just judge-y and get weird sometimes to where I don’t know how to navigate them. I have female friends but I think it worked out AFTER just being me and being vulnerable/ non confrontational/ non threatening. Women typically judge my appearance good or bad. It’s only after I literally tell a joke or display something very human that most women are like ok she is good. It’s super interesting. Competition with women is often too unfortunately as most women like I said get competitive around me a lot.

My mother and I are also incredibly close maybe even codependent. I talk to her maybe 3 times a day on average. Like literally was offered a job in another state on skype a few weeks back and I told her on skype to hold the line(she wanted a quick decision) while I spoke to my mom about it. She is my world in a way as weird as it is idgaf I love that woman!!!

And my moon is parallel my mars at 29°pisces in the 7th house. She is in my relationships lol she meets all the guys. I talk personal with her when I was married. No secrets no filters. So yeah....I’m a mommas girl and that’s how it manifests itself.

I don’t hate my mother. She never neglected me growing up(she worked, and she wasn’t super affectionate) but by 17 we had each other’s backs HARD. She is perhaps too affectionate to me. I get I love you texts and messages and we trade them all day. Lol

posted December 03, 2019 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Nadja:
As Kannon writes, every placement has its strenghts and weaknesses. There is nothing bad that doesn't also bring something good, and the other way around.

Personally I like my Virgo 12th Moon. I am very intuitive but also grounded, so it's a pretty good balance. I do tend to be more in tune with other people's emotions than my own, but I don't find that to be a big issue because I'm normally harmonious enough, and so are my surroundings. Empathy is definitely a good thing, and intuition is very useful! I just get people, what they are feeling and thinking, and that has been very helpful both in my private life and at work. As a trade-off I do need quite a lot of alone time to really feel like myself, but that's fine with me.

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It's interesting since sometimes 12th House Planets/placements can represent aspects/energies that we are not that conscious of.

But it depends, if a 12th House planet is strongly aspected to a much more conscious and highlighted symbol, or rules the 12th and is highlighted, then it can outline being more consciously aware of 12th House matters.

posted December 09, 2019 01:58 AM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
aw.... tell us more about it! I like to think that so long 12th house mooners implement shadow-work (daily...), they have a lot to offer the world from living/breathing the "universal consciousness". hugs from an 8th house moon! have you ever read Carl Jung's work? if not, dive in

“The Collective Unconscious is accessed through the 4th House. It is all that has been in the consciousness of mankind. The 12th House is the house of Universal Consciousness. What is accessible through this house has not passed through the filter of mankind’s dualistic, ego-centred perspec­tives. It is the gateway to all possibility, and to Truth, which is apprehend able only when the partial view has been transcended.“

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I have not read his work before but Ive heard of it! Honestly I don't think I 'd get it though because I have a hard time understanding the meaning of all this "ego" and unconscious stuff.
It's just awful honestly. People say all the time 12th house give psychic abilities.. probably the only good thing about this placement, yet I lack it. I have not experiences paranormal activity.. although I believe it, I have not.
All it does is add to feelings of foggyness and feeling alone. Although I can spend hours on hours alone, I love my alone time, I just feel.. a lot of things I can't explain.

It's sad because it is said to bring karma, it's the worst thing ever.
Im always living in fear but no one knows it. I have to confide within myself and god. And lately most days I feel like Im living in a dream. It's difficult to explain. Im so bad at expressing myself lol

posted December 09, 2019 02:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Moon in 12th, at least with your aspects, is definitely not the worst placement for the Moon any more than Moon in Pisces is 'worst' or Moon conjunct Neptune is 'worst.' Otherwise, my Moon in Capricorn in the 4th house is way worse than yours, much more closed off, resistant, and homebody by natural preference.

Understand astrological factors for their [b]qualitative meaning instead of good/bad, best/worst. Otherwise astrology is of little use.

There are always positives in every placement. That is to say, there is a strength inherent within every placement. It is a matter of tapping into it and developing it further.

Moon in 12th has closer access to the shared subconscious than any lunar position. In other words, intuition in which just below the surface there is awareness and knowledge of what is going on not just on a personal subconscious level, but with those around you and in the world generally. So the potential weakness is lostness in this by not connecting with it and utilizing it constructively. The difficulty comes with not understanding your own needs, sacrificing or over-reaching to meet those of others.

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posted December 09, 2019 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
I have a love/hate feeling about my moon in 12H. But it makes me happy to just lock myself away from the world so easily so no one can see me.

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posted December 09, 2019 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
My dream home

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posted December 21, 2019 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
This is VERY true for me. Do any of you another 12H moon natives have had these issues?

I know of other people with this placement and they didn't have problematic relationships with their mother.

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