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vansio
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posted December 05, 2019 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a great excerpt about natives born to have a Venus Rx Progression from the book by Edward Sullivan
"Retrograde Planets" pg. 111, chapter 'Movement of Venus by Secondary Progression'

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"As previously noted, Venus in either station (retrograde or direct) will resonate the Golden Section. Therefore, loosely applied, the progressed stations will resonate to the Platonic concept of the ideal plane. So, psychologically, this then translates as the surfacing or awareness of an exalted sense of perception and a hope to achieve perfect harmony through love, study, or art.

Progressed station-retrograde: Because Venus is direct for such long periods of time it is possible to never experience its station and regression by secondary progression in a lifetime. Should it do so, however, then the individual will find that it inaugurates a new cycle of values. As with all progressed planets and aspects, its effects are subtle and operate as a thematic backdrop for the more active manifest transits. It may be that the station-point itself is unremarkable, but the progression is triggered by transits to the natal Venus or transits of outer planets to the natal chart which stimulate the progressed Venus into action.

If Venus should station and turn retrograde by secondary progression, two significant years ahead to note will be: first, the year it passes back over the natal degree, if it does, and second, the year when it will conjoin the progressed Sun in the inferior conjunction, about twenty years after the station. Within those two stipulations, there are two more refinements to consider.

[1.] If the natal Venus is before the degree at which inferior conjunction will take place, it is entirely possible that the progressed Venus will never reach the degree it was at birth because it is about twenty to twenty-four days from the degree at which it will conjoin the Sun to the stationary-retrograde point, and yet another twenty or so days to inferior retrograde conjunction. The order of progressed points, in this case, is as follows: the planet first reaches inferior conjunction, then it progresses back to the degree at which it is was natally.

[2.] If the natal Venus is past the degree at which inferior conjunction will occur, then the sequence is thus: first, progressed Venus passes back over the natal degree, then it reaches progressed inferior conjunction.

The station-year itself could precipitate withdrawal from what has been a lifelong affinity, and a completely new way of perceiving one's creative essence slowly emerges. All the ingrained teachings that have been summarily adopted are likely to begin to falter and one is then required to turn inward to explore one's own centered value. All the values which have not originated from one's own core fall away, becoming pale and superficial, prompting a change in the motivation underlying the formation of relationships and the establishment of values and more. Often there is some specific event or circumstance which, upon reflection, appears to have precipitated the inversion.

Over the few years following the progressed station and retrogression, naturally extraverted people may find themselves increasingly discouraged with the external world and its pleasures, becoming cynical and withdrawn until they become more accustomed to the new way of perceiving their environment. Introverted types, on the other hand, may find themselves pleased to discover that they were not wrong after all, and that the great well-spring of love and joy is internal. In either case, the interior world becomes richer and more meaningful, imparting a greater sense of satisfaction in being alone with oneself. The ego becomes easier to appease, less in need of external approval, and more centered on self-creative aspects.

A shell might form around Venus, protecting it from outside perturbations, creating a container for healing a wound. Usually, the wound is one which occurred early in life and is only recalled at the turning-point, as Venus begins slowly to backtrack past the degrees in the zodiac over which it had been moving direct since birth. One may revisit one's past in this way, correcting imbalances and impurities which have polluted one's sense of integrity. A self-correcting device is always triggered upon the station-retrograde of a planet, and one may not even realize the degree to which one had deviated from the central path.

If progressed Venus moves back over the natal degree before reaching the progressed conjunction with the Sun, repressed but inherent values are reawakened and begin to surface at a fairly early age. It becomes apparent in that year that certain values are misplaced, and one begins to abandon a life that was not fulfilling. The year begins a search for a 'lost self'. One's taste, values, and needs are often drastically altered in the course of that year, followed by a quiet retreat into oneself. People have remarked that the year was noteworthy because of some kind of emotional revelation or relationship, which changed their life and felt more true and personally real to them. To summarize, the station-retrograde occurs in the first twenty or so years of one's life. Then, progressed retrograde Venus will eventually meet the progressed Sun in the inferior conjunction. With this order of things, an unconscious recollection of inherent values emerges to become wedded with what one has learned over time, and one finds one's lost self, buried in the rays of the Sun.

If the station-retrograde occurs after mid-life or in the years from the late thirties into the forties, it can mark a time of gathering together all that one has learned and compiling it into a great work. In the years immediately after Venus' station-retrograde, naturally creative people will find an abrupt change in focus or technique, throwing all past assumptions about their work into a state of chaos and resulting in a re-evaluation of it. This may be the beginning of the magnum opus, when the sum and total of one's life work is brought to bear in a single focus. In this case, Venus may never progress to cross back over the natal degree in the course of the life, but meets with the progressed Sun about twenty years after its station resulting in a progressed inferior conjunction. (The natal Venus would then be in a much earlier degree than the degree in which inferior conjunction occurs.)

When the progressed Sun and Venus meet in the inferior conjunction late in life, one may encounter a soul mate when one least expects it. The transexual nature of the inferior conjunction, the marriage of Venus with the Sun and the symbolic transformation into the man-woman, can literally mean the transformation of the ego into a non-sexual identity. Beyond a certain age, there is no stress on gender roles, and meeting of souls is truly transcendent of physical and material matter.

Recall that the Aztecs and Maya placed great emphasis on the point at which Venus first became visible in the dawn sky, when she made her appearance after having undergone the mystery rites. It was said that this was the time of the unveiling—with Venus about 10° behind the Sun after the inferior conjunction —when her light-bearing qualities and illumination were beginning to advance towards their most brilliant. In natal astrology this seems to bear out, that people also take their time in 'showing their new self' after the death and rebirth at the inferior conjunction.

Progressed station-direct: Because Venus is retrograde for approximately forty to forty-three days, it will turn direct by secondary progression at some point in the 'first half' of life, that is, as or before one hits the mid-life transition. Depending on how late in the retrograde cycle one is born, Venus may or may not pass back over the natal degree in direct motion.

[1.] If the natal Venus is in the first half of the retrograde cycle (i.e. before the inferior conjunction), it will achieve the progressed inferior conjunction at an early age, and then be followed by progressed Venus stationing-direct about twenty to twenty-two years later.

[2.] If the natal Venus is in the latter half of the retrograde cycle (i.e. after the inferior conjunction), then progressed Venus will station-direct before the age of twenty-two and will reach heliacal rising before age thirty. If one is born right after the inferior conjunction, progressed Venus will not pass direct over the natal place until around age forty-five or so.

When Venus is retrograde natally, the ability to relate to people on a superficial level is almost non-existent an the world of relationships and values in viewed through either an exalted lens or a jaded glass - the body and its physical visceral needs is highly responsive and primitive, while the philosophy is often in conflict. It is more difficult to reconcile Urania with Pandemos, and there is often a dichotomy between one's desires and beliefs until a degree of maturity or experience is achieved. The characteristic to mytholo-gize, symbolize and lend universal terms to very human and specific needs is epitomized by those with Venus retrograde.

The progressed station-direct of Venus symbolizes a time of emergence from a secret place wherein all sorts of mysteries alchemical processes have been under way. Recall the emergence of the Aztec-Maya Venus from the retrograde phase. She had been transformed into a male god, mated with the underworld goddess of love and birthed a sky creature. Married to the Sun she finally emerged restored as the Warrior Queen ready to lead armies.

The first six or seven years after direction are unstable, uncertain times for Venus retrograde individuals. There has been a level of inner turbulence and insecurity around their values, and their relevance to the world around, which the direction of Venus alone will not alter. The focus should be on transits and aspects to natal Venus during the years following the direction.

It is a volatile Venus that turns direct. Largely because of its lifetime of defenses there is often a feeling of having been stripped of those mechanisms once Venus begins progressed forward motion. This can be both a relief and a problem. It is a relief because it is now possible to be more open, direct and confident, but a problem because one is not accustomed to living life without a set of defense rules and boundaries. Undoing habitual justifications and dropping one's shield is not easily accomplished and 'going direct' can be just as problematic as being instinctively defensive, internal and armored.

The progressed direction of Venus can, however, be liked to liberation. One client who was born under the inferior conjunction said the year of her progressed direction was the highlight of her life. It coincided with her ordination into a religious community which takes her around the world to serve third-world countries in critical distress. At the age of twenty-three she felt she was finally free to move out of her cloistered set of values and share her selfishly guarded secret love of divinity.

By whatever mechanism in the cluster of private, sacred, interior values has remained apart from the profane world of ordinary mortals, and whatever defense has been erected to sequester one's deepest spiritual feeling about one's inner self, these barriers begin to erode at Venus' progressed direct station, allowing a higher meshing of the inner and outer life."



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posted December 05, 2019 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is Refinement #2.. (“latter half of retrograde cycle”)

Natal Chart: 12Ari41 Venus with 0Pis07 Sun

Oct 2013 — Pr.Venus Stationed-Rx at 20°ARI with 20°PIS Pr. Sun (my final year at university for fine art—a semi-sextile stationing retrograde)
Sept 2026 — Progressed ASC will turn Leo; Sun becomes Chart Ruler (Age 33)
Jul 2033— Pr.Venus-Rx will conjunct Natal Venus and 10ARI23 Pr. Sun (Age 40)
Dec 2034 — Pr.Venus-Rx will inferior-conjunct Pr. Sun 11ARI50, also, conjunct Pr.MC from the 9th house (Age 41)
Oct 2035 — Pr. Sun will conjunct Natal Venus (Age 42)
Jan 2056 — Pr. Venus will Station Direct 3ARI (Age 63)

the 2033-2035 conjunctions all happen while on top of my natal Venus, I'll be 40-42 yrs old but the least some phenomena to look forward in spite of the lifelong retrograde-mark. raises a lot of questions... c’est la vie

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posted December 08, 2019 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 08, 2019 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe JAYCEE DUGARD had this condition of Venus. Th year Venus turned direct she was found, and returned to her parents.

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posted December 08, 2019 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

re: Dugard.

She has nVenus @ 24° Gemini. She was kidnapped with pVenus at 0° Cancer. pVenus went retrograde sat some point during captivity.

Jaycee Dugard was rescued and returned home as pVenus returned to 0° Cancer...the location at which she was first kidnapped.

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posted December 09, 2019 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born with Venus Rx conjunct my north node in Cancer. It progressed to the conjunction with my sun at an early age, and stationed direct conjunct my natal mercury and vertex in my mid 20s. It will progress back to conjunct my natal Venus and north node this coming spring. I believe there will be a day where nVenus, nNN, pVenus, tVenus, and tNN will all be conjunct again in Cancer.

Any ideas on what I should expect?

And, yes, that eclipse is happening awfully close to my natal SN... And the 2001 happened near exact opposite my sun. The one memory I have is that it may have been a time of poor health of a parent, though I'm not sure if the time matches.

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posted December 12, 2019 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nine:
re: Dugard.

She has nVenus @ 24° Gemini. She was kidnapped with pVenus at 0° Cancer. pVenus went retrograde sat some point during captivity.

Jaycee Dugard was rescued and returned home as pVenus returned to 0° Cancer...the location at which she was first kidnapped.



this story leaves me speechless. thank you for sharing!

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posted December 12, 2019 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
It will progress back to conjunct my natal Venus and north node this coming spring. I believe there will be a day where nVenus, nNN, pVenus, tVenus, and tNN will all be conjunct again in Cancer.

Any ideas on what I should expect?


Like a progressed Venus Return. I suppose at the very least you can anticipate it a milestone year regarding your values and tastes, and by progression the first time charting unknown territory! It’s proximity to your nodes will usher in something destined. Because of the Tr.NN conjunct Venus transit, you can expect heightened activity around love or socializing. I’ve seen NN bring important people symbolized by the conjunct planet. What house does Venus rule/where does it sit in your chart?

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posted December 12, 2019 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
Like a progressed Venus Return. I suppose at the very least you can anticipate it a milestone year regarding your values and tastes, and by progression the first time charting unknown territory! It’s proximity to your nodes will usher in something destined. Because of the Tr.NN conjunct Venus transit, you can expect heightened activity around love or socializing. I’ve seen NN bring important people symbolized by the conjunct planet. What house does Venus rule/where does it sit in your chart?


Venus rules the 7th and 8th (Tau) and 12th (Lib)

It's in the 9th. By progression it spent most of my life in the 8th, but about a year ago it returned to the 9th.

Major aspects are trines to Asc and Saturn Rx for a grand water trine, a 4° orb sextile to Uranus, and parallel the sun.

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posted April 12, 2020 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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