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SoulOfABird
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posted December 05, 2019 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to guys I like, even though they aren’t my boyfriend, I can’t help but get jealous of other girls that are near them, or can’t help but compare myself to other girls. When it comes to synastry especially, I feel sad if I realize another girl might have better synastry with him. It’s not healthy. To make matters worse I always tend to fall for guys I can probably never be with! Or are out of my reach. So Im essentially jealous for no good reason. When I can’t even be with them anyway. I get so attached to the fantasy of what could be and get really hurt when reality hits me.
Just today I was reading up on synastry aspects, and I noticed people constantly praising moon-mars aspects which we (the guy I like) don’t have. We have a lot of “passionate” aspects but not that. Yeah his Mars conjuncts my venus, and his Pluto trines my venus, but his mars is the ruler of his 8th house and I can’t help but not feel good enough for him because I can only imagine how moon conjunct mars would be much more satisfying for him. I have no right to be jealous, he’s not my man so why should I care? It actually makes me sad
But I cant help it. I don’t know why Im like this.
I don’t believe this to be a synastry thing because Im like this with about every guy I really like. I wonder if Im good enough or get jealous if they like another girl. I don’t act out on it or anything, but I shed some tears or sulk like a dumb idiot. I know it’s silly and ridiculous.
What aspects/placements can cause this jealousy? How does one deal with it?

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posted December 05, 2019 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like it's something in your natal chart, and not just the synastry considering you said it's with people you're not even in a relationship with.

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SoulOfABird
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posted December 05, 2019 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
It sounds like it's something in your natal chart, and not just the synastry considering you said it's with people you're not even in a relationship with.

Im thinking so. It doesn’t make much sense though because I thought jealousy is a Scorpio thing and I have 0 Scorpio or 8th house placements

When I think of a song that perfectly resonates with how I feel about most of these guys is the song Teardrops on my Guitar by Taylor Swift lol

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posted December 05, 2019 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not just a scorpio thing. Aries, Leo, taurus, or even capricorn can be jealous. Also, look to see what aspects your venus and Mars make to other planets. Are they touching Pluto? Take a long look at your sun too. The way you describe it sounds like an ego thing (don't be offended). You want them to want you and you get jealous when someone else is taking their attention off of you. That sounds like aries/Leo to me, not scorpio.

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posted December 05, 2019 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
It's not just a scorpio thing. Aries, Leo, taurus, or even capricorn can be jealous. Also, look to see what aspects your venus and Mars make to other planets. Are they touching Pluto? Take a long look at your sun too. The way you describe it sounds like an ego thing (don't be offended). You want them to want you and you get jealous when someone else is taking their attention off of you. That sounds like aries/Leo to me, not scorpio.

Agreed. Leo placements can get super butthurt if they don't receive the attention they think they should. This is definitely not a synastrical issue...more like an issue of self-esteem and feelings of low self-worth. Jealousy is the wrong word for it. You just see other girls receiving admiration for what you perceive as their outer/inner beauty and you don't feel as though you are good enough to receive that yourself. You are projecting your own insecurities without even realizing it and perhaps this is noticed by other guys. Saturn can do this too...Saturn chills what it touches and makes you work towards a satisfying end-goal (in this case, feeling confident in your own skin). How old are you? You should really post your natal chart.

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posted December 05, 2019 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
It's not just a scorpio thing. Aries, Leo, taurus, or even capricorn can be jealous. Also, look to see what aspects your venus and Mars make to other planets. Are they touching Pluto? Take a long look at your sun too. The way you describe it sounds like an ego thing (don't be offended). You want them to want you and you get jealous when someone else is taking their attention off of you. That sounds like aries/Leo to me, not scorpio.

I don't know.. maybe it is. But I feel like it's more than me wanting attention. I don't really care about attention, it's more about me idealizing me being the "perfect" one for the guy I like. I really mainly feel this way when I really REALLY like a guy. I think Ive only felt this way towards maybe 2 or 3 guys in my life.
I do have Venus square Pluto. Most of the descriptions Ive read of that aspect doesn't resonate with me, because it sounds pretty dark and scary lol but maybe this is how it manifests for me.

My sun conjuncts venus and mercury, but that's it. It is the ruler of my 7th house though.

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posted December 05, 2019 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by margym0o:
Agreed. Leo placements can get super butthurt if they don't receive the attention they think they should. This is definitely not a synastrical issue...more like an issue of self-esteem and feelings of low self-worth. Jealousy is the wrong word for it. You just see other girls receiving admiration for what you perceive as their outer/inner beauty and you don't feel as though you are good enough to receive that yourself. You are projecting your own insecurities without even realizing it and perhaps this is noticed by other guys. Saturn can do this too...Saturn chills what it touches and makes you work towards a satisfying end-goal (in this case, feeling confident in your own skin). How old are you? You should really post your natal chart.


ohh so then what is jealousy?

this is my chart

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posted December 05, 2019 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow you have a strong pisces/neptune energy.It must be the reason why you have too many fantasies! I have venus in pisces and sun/neptune conjunction.I dream all the time lol and I dream with fairytale kind of love.It hurts deeply when we come back from our dreams.. I feel vou.

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posted December 05, 2019 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You said you get jealous and compare yourself right?Maybe it is just an insecurity which every person of any sign can have

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posted December 06, 2019 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Im thinking so. It doesn’t make much sense though because I thought jealousy is a Scorpio thing and I have 0 Scorpio or 8th house placements

When I think of a song that perfectly resonates with how I feel about most of these guys is the song Teardrops on my Guitar by Taylor Swift lol


I know jealously is supposed to be a Scorpio thing, I've read it so many times.. but this is just something I dont understand. I don't even know how or what jealously feels like.. This feeling eludes me just as lacking confidence eludes me too..

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posted December 06, 2019 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pereya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
When it comes to guys I like, even though they aren’t my boyfriend, I can’t help but get jealous of other girls that are near them, or can’t help but compare myself to other girls. When it comes to synastry especially, I feel sad if I realize another girl might have better synastry with him. It’s not healthy. To make matters worse I always tend to fall for guys I can probably never be with! Or are out of my reach. So Im essentially jealous for no good reason. When I can’t even be with them anyway. I get so attached to the fantasy of what could be and get really hurt when reality hits me.
Just today I was reading up on synastry aspects, and I noticed people constantly praising moon-mars aspects which we (the guy I like) don’t have. We have a lot of “passionate” aspects but not that. Yeah his Mars conjuncts my venus, and his Pluto trines my venus, but his mars is the ruler of his 8th house and I can’t help but not feel good enough for him because I can only imagine how moon conjunct mars would be much more satisfying for him. I have no right to be jealous, he’s not my man so why should I care? It actually makes me sad
But I cant help it. I don’t know why Im like this.
I don’t believe this to be a synastry thing because Im like this with about every guy I really like. I wonder if Im good enough or get jealous if they like another girl. I don’t act out on it or anything, but I shed some tears or sulk like a dumb idiot. I know it’s silly and ridiculous.
What aspects/placements can cause this jealousy? How does one deal with it?

Is your Vertex square Pluto? If yes - here you go )))

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posted December 08, 2019 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought you are a Taurus, because one Taurus girl I know also like this. I don't remember all of her aspect, but she has Moon and Venus in Cancer.

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posted December 08, 2019 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its your Venus-Pluto square in your natal. 100%

Venus - Pluto individuals are highly possessive and also suffer from deep fear of abandonment, those individuals always think that their partners will leave them for someone better so jealousy and possessiveness is running feverishly high.

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SoulOfABird
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posted December 09, 2019 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@DannyCappy
Thank you for understanding (: Im glad Im not the only one that does this lol

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SoulOfABird
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posted December 09, 2019 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
I know jealously is supposed to be a Scorpio thing, I've read it so many times.. but this is just something I dont understand. I don't even know how or what jealously feels like.. This feeling eludes me just as lacking confidence eludes me too..

hmm that's interesting. You don't know what jealousy feels like? really? what are your placements?

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posted December 09, 2019 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pereya:
Is your Vertex square Pluto? If yes - here you go )))


It does but by a very wide orb so Im not sure if it counts? by a 9 degree orb

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posted December 09, 2019 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I thought you are a Taurus, because one Taurus girl I know also like this. I don't remember all of her aspect, but she has Moon and Venus in Cancer.

really? lol that's funny because I have some Taurus traits I think yet no Taurus placements😂

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posted December 09, 2019 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
its your Venus-Pluto square in your natal. 100%

Venus - Pluto individuals are highly possessive and also suffer from deep fear of abandonment, those individuals always think that their partners will leave them for someone better so jealousy and possessiveness is running feverishly high.


Curse that stupid aspect

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posted December 09, 2019 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jealousy is the flawed premise that there can only be "one" prize etc. And that one must "compete" with others for it.

So it's a state of mind that speaks of insecurity or doubt that one can have or even retain that which they really really want -because on some level they believe it too "good" for them and that they don't deserve to have it i.e others more "deserving" will come and take it away etc.

This "bottleneck" type of thinking wreaks of fire or atleast Mars-influenced thought patterns i.e Sco/Aries.Perhaps even Cap(Saturn is limitation).

I see you have a stellium in 1st with Venus(love planet) in 1st. Add to that,the 7th house has Mars therein. So both placements emphasize "competition" when it comes to relating to others.

Mars in 7th is open competition or others bringing out the "aggressor"(Mars) in you(7th). But you seldom realize this.

You have Mars in Libra, so this "competitive" side is brought out through Venus things(Venus rules Lib) i.e attracting a mate,looking pretty,looking stylish and coming across as palatable etc.

Venus in 1st can suggest wanting to be the most eloquent,most beautiful,most charming and attracting others to you.

I suspect Venus in 1st gets jealous of others they perceive as "more beautiful" -in whatever fashion they think that that "beauty" encapsulates. Because for Venus in 1st house people, beauty makes life worthwhile in many ways including status and romance etc.So they want that for themselves.

The ruler of the 8th house(naturally ruled by Mars) is in the 1st house.This ties in with Mars' "bottleneck" thinking.

The 1st house planets/sign suggest what your default outlook on life is and what is important to you. So Aries in 1st is empty (in my case) and so its ruler (Mars)in Libra makes Venus things important to me i.e looking good.

Like you,I admire/sometimes even get jealous/ competitive with people I deem are more "attractive" than I am.

What may be healthy to internalize is this :"What makes us beautiful is what makes us unique.If we cling to limited standards of beauty in our self perception as well as the way we perceive others,we rob both ourselves and thereby others of seeing us in our beautiful multifaceted selves."

No two people are exactly alike.There is no need for competition -even when the world holds "beauty contests" to suggest that there is. Dont buy the misleading hype.

#And oh yes, the guys you "like" you like because of the essence of what you see in them. It is not specifically them that you like because you project the idealised personalities of who you think they are on to them.

The Almighty tends to give us the "essence" of what we want-and it is so much more satisfying. The issue could be that we may insist upon a specific "package" that it should come in
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Lalafortunaea
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posted December 11, 2019 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Extreme, irrational and uncontrollable jealousy is often symptomatic of something else. It is an indicator that one is quite unhappy and unsatisfied in some part of their life. We should examine these negative reactions for clues to our happiness.

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